Talk:Business Insider

Owned by?
Who are the owners? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.240.212.1 (talk) 07:51, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

"edgy"
"each with an "edgy" commentary." What does this mean? No explanation, examples, citation or other info is given about this statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.63.231.189 (talk) 18:51, 18 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes. Full stop with contemporary vernacular that is often dated and regional.  Encyclopedic, please. 2600:8803:9001:6900:ECCC:48D2:26E8:C16A (talk) 23:27, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Edits from Business Insider PR person
Business Insider is a leading business site with deep financial, media, tech and other industry verticals. The flagship vertical, Silicon Alley Insider (SAI), launched on July 19, 2007, led by DoubleClick founder Kevin Ryan and former top-ranked Wall Street analyst Henry Blodget. One year after launch, additional verticals joined Silicon Alley Insider, including Clusterstock, Money Game, The Wire, and more. Its newsroom currently employs a staff of 50, and the site reported a profit for the first time ever in the 4th quarter of 2010. In June 2012 it had monthly unique visitor count to the website of 5.4 million. Business Insider hosts noted industry conferences including Ignition, which explores the successful and emerging business models of digital media; Ignition West; Social Media ROI, which covers how brands use social media; and Mobile Advertising. In February 2012, Business Insider launched BI Intelligence, a subscription research service that provides in-depth insight, data, and analysis of the mobile industry. The site each year publishes editorial franchises such as the “Digital 100: The World's Most Valuable Private Tech Companies.”

(MrMarioNateRuizJr (talk) 20:39, 4 January 2013 (UTC)MrMarioNateRuizJr)


 * I've already reverted this wording twice as too promotional and you removed references when you added it. Words like "leading",  "flagship", "noted", "successful", etc. are promotional.  Jargon such as "verticals" is not helpful to Wikipedia readers.  I will let another editor address your request. 72Dino (talk) 20:49, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Apologies for posting 2x - was an error. Thanks for your suggestions. I've edited again to include them all:

Business Insider is a business site with deep financial, media, tech and other industry verticals. The site first launched as Silicon Alley Insider (SAI) on July 19, 2007, led by former top-ranked Wall Street analyst Henry Blodget and Doubleclick founder and former C.E.O. Kevin P. Ryan. One year after launch, additional sections joined SAI, including Clusterstock, Money Game, The Wire, and more. The site relaunched under the Business Insider name in February, 2009. Its newsroom currently employs a staff of 50, and the site reported a profit for the first time ever in the 4th quarter of 2010. In November 2012 it had monthly unique visitor count to the website of 8.9 million, according to comScore. Business Insider hosts industry conferences including Ignition, which explores the emerging business models of digital media; Ignition West; Social Media ROI, which covers how brands use social media; and Mobile Advertising. In February 2012, Business Insider launched BI Intelligence, a subscription research service that provides in-depth insight, data, and analysis of the mobile industry. The site each year publishes editorial franchises such as the “Digital 100: The World's Most Valuable Private Tech Companies.”


 * Notes:

MrMarioNateRuizJr (talk) 21:10, 4 January 2013 (UTC)MrMarioNateRuizJr Previous comment slightly reformatted so notes appear above the signature line. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  00:12, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm wondering how I can get an editor to consider my suggestions from two weeks ago. ThanksMrMarioNateRuizJr (talk) 21:22, 25 January 2013 (UTC)MrMarioNateRuizJr

Edit by PR for Business Insider
The site editors vary greatly in background. Henry Blodget is the CEO and Editor-In-Chief, a Yale graduate who previously worked on Wall Street before being barred from the securities industry following an SEC censure. Deputy editor Joe Weisenthal has worked as an analyst and writer for a series of dotcoms. Deputy editor Nicholas Carlson previously worked at Internet.com and Gawker Media's Silicon Valley gossip blog, Valleywag.com. Senior editor Jim Edwards was previously managing editor at Adweek.

(note: Blodget was not convicted of fraud but was censured by the SEC. Please note his wiki page. I've also added the name of Jim Edwards.)

MrMarioNateRuizJr (talk) 21:19, 4 January 2013 (UTC)MrMarioNateRuizJr Previous comment slightly reformatted so notes appear above the signature line. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  00:12, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I immediately made the change to remove any mention of a conviction as this is a WP:BLP issue. I used the wording "censured" and "barred" as that was in the SEC press release. By the way, you are making the right move by making these suggested edits on the talk page.  Be patient as I'm not sure how frequently this article is seen by other editors.  72Dino (talk) 21:28, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Bothersome
Spam comments from 2013 and 2015 nuked. L3X1 (distænt write)   )evidence(  18:59, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Infobox: website or newspaper
There's an RfC on whether a news website should use Infobox website or Infobox newspaper: Talk:The Times of Israel. --Triggerhippie4 (talk) 14:02, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Establishment?
Was Business Insider launched in 2007 or 2009? The article is self-contradictory. Skull33 (talk) 10:41, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Move to insider?
What are your thought about this announcement? GreaterPonce665 (TALK) 20:10, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , Has this been covered in secondary sources? If so, a move to Insider (website) (currently redirecting to Insider Inc.) or Insider (news organization) would seem reasonable. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 20:41, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
 * and, I forgot to look at the talk page before instigating a requested move, but anyway it's in the pipeline now and you may like to comment. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 05:42, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Centre-left bias?
Are you kidding me? Business Insider is a publication that regularly argues for shrinking welfare states and increasing pension ages. I suggest the link that alleged a centre-left bias be removed as it is clearly a centre-right, and pretty clearly at that, publication. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.159.134 (talk) 18:58, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 18 April 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Not moved  (t &#183; c)  buidhe  04:17, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Business Insider → ? – I'm not sure what should happen here, but there does not appear to be an entity actually called Business Insider, so perhaps should be merged with Insider, Inc. In any case, the two articles contradict each other and cause confusion. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 05:38, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. It seems to me that this article is primarily about the website or online service called Business Insider, which is owned by a company called Insider Inc., not a separate entity per se. https://www.businessinsider.com/ remains at a separate website domain name than https://www.insider.com/ And despite what the company's CEO stated in 2021, it seems to me that independent, reliable secondary sources still seem to treat "Business Insider" as a more common name for the website. So the structure should be similar to something like the Facebook service versus the separate article on its company Meta Platforms. Any contradiction or redundancy between the two articles could be cleaned up without a page move or a merge. But again, I would need to evidence of whether there is enough independent, reliable secondary sources that no longer use "Business Insider" as a common name for the website. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:37, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose, this reminds me of a recent discussion regarding Teespring. WP:COMMONNAME applies. Any merger proposal with Insider Inc. should be addressed per WP:MERGE, not here. 162 etc. (talk) 16:26, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose They still seemingly use Business Insider everywhere but the actual logo, so I don't think there is much that needs changing here outside of the screenshot, which is a bit outdated. --Quiz shows 22:57, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose "Business Insider" is the WP:COMMONNAME and uncontroversial. >>> Extorc . talk  19:58, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose as per above votes. Kpddg  (talk)  15:35, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Greenwald?
I move to remove the Glenn Greenwald line. I don't understand why it is terribly relevant, and seems to be here to promote Greenwald's site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TAPwiki (talk • contribs) 12:34, 17 May 2022 (UTC)


 * It's criticism of the organization from a notable figure in journalism. Can you explain why that wouldn't be relevant? MrOllie (talk) 12:54, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Business Insider was lumped in with other sites. Also, Greenwald maybe notable, but that does not mean his opinion is notable.  It should be acknowledged that Greenwald is a well known Trumpist, appearing on Tucker and other shows repeatedly; he is not what I would call a balanced source. TAPwiki (talk) 18:57, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Despite what you might read in some alarmist editorials, Wikipedia does not actually disqualify sources or authors based solely on their political leanings. MrOllie (talk) 19:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Considerations for Separating The Entities
Wikidata sees both Insider and Business Insider as unique, noteworthy entities. As far as my research goes, it can be clearly noted that while the two are related (e.g. they are owned by Insider Inc.), they cover different content; with one being focused on "business" content, and the other on more "lifestyle" content. Insider is presently a disambiguous page, so the conversation from Talk:Business Insider is technically incorrect; while the domains share a single genesis, all three have unique WikiData entries, additionally the two domains mentioned above are split and host unique content.

Just trying to make sure we are presenting the most current, up-to-date information here. Ronin.abv (talk) 16:45, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 15 February 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 00:27, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Business Insider → Insider (website) – The website itself is named "Insider" on its header and the article's lead section itself starts with "Insider, previously named Business Insider". I'm surprised this specific request wasn't made sooner, to be honest. Dontuseurrealname (talk) 03:56, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. My question remains from last year's RM discussion: is there there enough independent, reliable secondary sources that no longer use "Business Insider" as the common name for the website? And again, both https://www.businessinsider.com/ and https://www.insider.com/ work as if they are separate sister websites. Zzyzx11 (talk) 08:25, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 05:17, 16 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose. As mentioned in a previous comment: "they cover different content; with one being focused on "business" content, and the other on more "lifestyle" content." Both also have unique WikiData entities. Ronin.abv (talk) 19:36, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Add new CEO
Can we pls include that Barbara Peng has been named CEO of Business Insider, as reported in Wall Street Journal: https://www.wsj.com/business/media/insider-co-founder-henry-blodget-steps-down-as-ceo-amid-strategy-shift-11a91da7 MrMarioNateRuizJr (talk) 20:25, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Source for "New York city based"?
is this just made up? 2604:3D09:D78:1000:16BA:D3D2:76B7:7160 (talk) 11:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Clickbait, misinformation, and sensationalism
Many headlines are clickbait and untrue. There needs to be a disclaimer or section discussing this. Recently, they posted some ludicrous disinformation stating North Korea publicly executed young adults for watching South Korea soap operas. No credible MSM published the same. Newb787 (talk) 05:32, 15 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Possibly true. Feel free to edit supplying reliable sources. Thanks, Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 05:49, 15 July 2024 (UTC)