Talk:Caleb Swanigan

Hip hop career
That whole section about his hip hop career is complete vandalism added a month ago. It needs to be reverted. Also, that IP had a lot of questionable edits 2604:2D80:6A8D:E200:20AE:3426:686A:5C5A (talk) 21:46, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Natural causes?
What are "natural causes" regarding the death of a 25-year-old athlete? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:03, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Exactly my thought. No one dies from "natural causes" aka death from aging & the breakdown/malfunction of the bodies cells at 25 (unless from severe disease of course, which wouldn't be "natural causes"). JanderVK (talk) 04:51, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Natural causes in this context tells the reader that Caleb did not die from violence, drugs, or suicide - all unfortunately common reasons for a young person's untimely death. What we don't know is whether it was heart disease, cancer, COVID, etc. So, the exact cause was not specified.
 * See below for references:
 * Natural causes refer to internal factors (medical condition) rather than external factors like trauma, homicide, accident, suicide.
 * A death by natural causes results from an illness and its complications or an internal malfunction of the body not directly caused by external forces, other than infectious disease. For example, a person dying from complications from pneumonia, diarrheal disease or HIV/AIDS (infections), cancer, stroke or heart disease (internal body malfunctions), or sudden organ failure would most likely be listed as having died from natural causes. "Death by natural causes" is sometimes used as a euphemism for "dying of old age", which is considered problematic as a cause of death (as opposed to a specific age-related disease); there are also many non-age-related causes of "natural" death, for legal manner-of-death purposes. (See Cause of death § Aging) Buddhafinder (talk) 07:00, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Please indent your entries under whom you are replying to (I fixed it this time)!
 * Thank you for your opinions and interpretations. I do not agree. Illness in a young person can hardly be called a natural cause of death. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 16:56, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Since there are legitimate concerns about the phrasing "natural causes", we should report that the Allen County Coroner’s Office reported that Swanigan "died of natural causes". That way we're following the sources, giving all the information, but not putting it in Wikipedia's voice.--Cerebral726 (talk) 17:11, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * OK by me. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 17:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * That makes perfect sense to me. Buddhafinder (talk) 20:01, 27 June 2022 (UTC)