Talk:Classic car

USA Bias
Having read this article, I believe that it requires adaptation to make sure it describes the classic car movement throughout the world - not just in the USA/North America.
 * Got to say I agree with this 100% - not even a picture of a Rolls Royce or a Bentley? --Gavinio 16:09, 10 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It makes sense because most English speaking editors will be from the US. People from other countries will just have to work harder. Who ever said life was fair? :) DirkvdM 10:02, 31 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It makes no sense at all, Americans make articles about American products and Europeans about European products? What makes you think in the first place that most English speaking users are American and second that Americans would only want to read about American products? Being Dutch yourself proves that not only Americans read the English Wikipedia... DaFinch 16:41, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I suspect it's the mono-cultural self absorbed naval staring cultural trait that I share with other Americans- Although when I was in England they said we don't speak English- we speak American, I had to correct them- I speak TEXAN, where we at least have a border with another country. I agree with the first assessment that the article needs more examples and content from other parts of the world- and perhaps even a section on Chinese Autos (the Future Classic Cars) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.67.37.194 (talk) 23:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure the term "Classic Car" is used outside of the US. Unless someone from Europe claims this term is used there, I disagree that the Americentric tone is not appropriate.HornColumbia (talk) 00:57, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * The term is used in the UK - which was still officially outside the US last time I checked. -- Ian Dalziel (talk) 01:27, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Pictures.
Can we have a wider range of pictures? There are too many American cars and no British, Italian, Japanese or Scandinavian cars. Does noone own a picture of a Morris Traveller or an old Lancia or Toyota?(Morcus (talk) 20:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC))

Safety Section
Does not belong in this article. Maybe in a separate article, but it does not belong here and is clumsy and intrusive to the article. If it is going to be kept, it needs to be rewritten for more clarity. For example there is not a state in the USA that 'prohibits' using a classic car as a daily driver. Some states restrict mileage on vehicles REGISTERED as a "classic" but even in those states those cars could be registered as a regular car and driven daily with no problems at all. The source article for that section is equally vaguely written, and even has factual errors, for instance Virginia does not require cars not originally equipped with safety belts to retrofit them for vehicle inspection (they are grandfathered in).

Some other points about some errors in this section: 1. who is recommending to "to retrofit classic cars with seat belts"? 2. "retro styles 2 and 3 point safety belts" are manufactured to replace belts or add belts to cars that originally had belts or had them as an option. Nobody is making retro style belts for fitting onto cars that did not already come with mounting points. The liability alone would stop such an idea in its tracks. The only way to add "belts" to a car that did not come with them or did not have them as an option is to fully or partially cage the car and add belts to that, which is an expensive and intrusive undertaking, and is rarely done. 3. "The suspension of classic cars may not be suitable for radial ply tyres, having been designed for bias ply tyres" is nonsense. You really only run into problems going in the reverse (putting bias plys on a suspension designed for radials). Radials are literally a 'bolt on improvement' in handling for any classic car, and can be found in all sorts of sizes only the oldest and oddest (wooden wheels, for instance) car would have trouble mounting. 4. "Another problem with modern tyres on classic cars is that increased grip requires increased steering effort; many classic cars don't have power steering." Is original research, to say nothing of being absurd. It is no harder to turn a manual steering car with radials over bias plys at speed or even at low speed. Cars did not have power steering often in the old days because it was an added complication and sapped power.

This entire section really has little to add to an overview article of "classic cars", it stands out sorely, and has errors to boot. Someone needs to take a look at this.

False Science Comparison
The collision between the Bel Air & the Malibu is misleading as the center of the Malibu hits the off-center front of the Bel Air. Where is the corresponding reversed video? It is time to stand up to this false science that has, unfortunately, become way to predominate.

Nantucketnoon (talk) 23:21, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The article cites reliable sources for the content we have on the crash test. We don't enter into factual disputes with reliable sources just on the say so of an editor. That would violate the no original research policy. Can you cite sources which contradict the conclusions in the sources we have?

UK Terms
I agree that the UK needs more representation here, especially as the market for classic cars is comparatively huge there. In particular, the UK uses distinct terms: classic, veteran, and vintage, which need a mention. The exact differentiation may not be universal but the ordering is. See Classic, Vintage, or Veteran, for instance TonyP (talk) 11:50, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your time

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