Talk:Cornel West

What is the problem with mentioning his financial problems?
I´m alluding to the part I added that was sourced by Forbes Magazine on the 11th of Decemeber this year and was reverted. StrongALPHA (talk) 09:52, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


 * For one, Forbes contributors generally have no editorial oversight whatsoever, and it's been agreed that an article they've contributed to should never be used for claims about living people, see WP:FORBESCON. Remsense  留  19:23, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It is public factual verified and well known Cornel West is broke, poor, has no savings, and owes a lot to his ex wives and children he neglected. He wrote about this himself in his memoir and has said so in interviews. 100.34.234.175 (talk) 21:34, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Then it should be trivial to provide a reliable source to that effect. Remsense  诉  22:55, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

No personal life section?
I checked through the talk page archives and found that some editors noticed the lack of a personal life section back in 2007. 13 years later, in 2020, an editor replied agreeing that a personal life section should be in the article. 4 years later, I just happened to notice that no such section exists and I'm surprised that there seemingly has never been one, despite this being a normal part of many biography articles.

I think such a section ought to exist, but I'm curious if any editors have any ideas as to what should be in it. I think it would make sense to mention where he resides, any family members worth mentioning (e.g. spouse(s), children, sibling(s), etc), maybe more details about his religious views and how he practices his faith, and (only if quality sources report on it), potentially controversial information like financial struggles.

Any suggestions or objections?

 Vanilla  Wizard  💙 23:44, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The content of articles is driven by the degree of coverage in reliable sources. Generally personal life is covered less for academics than for entertainers, such as Paris HIlton or Lindsay Lohan. TFD (talk) 01:22, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It is public factual verified and well known Cornel West is broke, poor, has no savings, and owes a lot to his ex wives and children he neglected. He wrote about this himself in his memoir and has said so in interviews. 100.34.234.175 (talk) 21:35, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

As "philosopher" and "theologian"
There is no basis of which I am aware for identifying him as a philosopher or theologian. He has made virtually no intellectual contributions to these domains. His academic publication record consists of 20 or fewer works. He has no Google Scholar profile. His highest Scopus H index is 4 with twelve documents published with Princeton and five with Harvard. The latest Harvard one is his 1993 book 'Race Matters,' whose publisher categorizes it under "social science." His most recent Princeton publication is the foreword to someone else's book. His well publicized run-in with former Harvard President Summers over 20 years ago entailed West's almost total lack of academic intellectual work. Publication of non-peer-reviewed tomes that he identifies as "philosophy" or "theology" is not evidence for self-professed expertise. Affiliation per se with such domains does not afford one this designation. Nor does merely meeting Wikipedia's standards of notability predicated on provocative media coverage sought by the Wikipedia subject. If there are substantive reasons for these labels, then please provide citations consistent with Wikipedia's guidelines for assigning this designation. CeilingFan2Sea (talk) 18:24, 25 January 2024 (UTC)


 * he's published in more academic sources than aquinas ever did. plato didn't write anything at all. your standard for the labels is arbitrary. 814jjs (talk) 814jjs (talk) 22:24, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Edit source availability
What's going on with source editing? - Joaquin89uy (talk) 14:51, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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