Talk:Coronation of Charles III and Camilla

Infobox collage images
It's probably worth having a proper discussion of the infobox collage, to gain a consensus and some stability.

To kick things off, I'd suggest that we should use no more than four images (and ideally fewer). Any more tends to look over-long. The themes of those images could be:
 * A good image of the King and Queen
 * The procession
 * Protests or some other representation of disagreement/ambivalence
 * The Commonwealth

The reason I don't include an image of the ceremony itself in the above is that, as far as I know, the images we have access to are pretty poor. I suspect we can convey the event well enough without one, but it's a point for discussion.

@Leventio @JonHall1924 @2a00:23c8:1f29:3201:e53e:2edc:9a2b:c7e1 A.D.Hope (talk) 18:00, 25 September 2023 (UTC)


 * In my view, I believe that including five lead images is appropriate for an article of this size (this aligns with the common practice of having five images in most image montages). However, I'm not attached to that number, and am perfectly fine with reducing it to four if necessary. Nonetheless, I would likely recommend against exceeding five images in the infobox.
 * That being said, if we are trimming and limiting the number of images in the infobox, I would strongly argue for the removal of both crowd images – both those of protesters and spectators. Neither of these images places the primary focus on the core article topic, which is the actual coronation service and ceremonies.Per MOS:LEADIMAGE, the lead images should ideally present the most natural and pertinent depiction of the topic at hand. With the MOS considered, I'd argue that images showcasing the reactions, whether in favor or against, to the event do not constitute the most natural representation of the topic (the topic being the "coronation of X", not "reactions to the coronation of X"). What I'd argue is most fitting images would be those that primarily showcase the ceremonies themselves and their key moments, which would be:
 * Procession to Abbey
 * Ceremony
 * Procession to Buckingham
 * Balcony appearance
 * Choosing these four images aligns itself well with Wiki's MOS aim to keeping the lead images centered on the core article topic. By using these types of images (images of the ceremony, devoid of any crowds in the background), we also maintain NPOV as this image set will not suggest or imply a particular response from the public about the event (pro or anti).
 * All in all, while image balance is important, we should not be fighting about that through the lead images (given how the main MOS criterion for lead images is naturalness and pertinence to the article title). Lets not forget that while we should be working towards image balance, this is evaluated in its article's entirity, not just the lead image. Leventio (talk) 19:12, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Fully agree. The reaction to said events could be entire articles all by themselves. There is an entire section of the article dedicated to protests/polling/etc. I think your solution is the most sensible and does not over represent the supporters or the protests. JonHall1924 (talk) 19:46, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * To be quite honest I'd be happy to sidestep the issue entirely and just have the balcony image, with the rest incorporated into the article where appropriate. There's no requirement for a collage, after all. A.D.Hope (talk) 19:46, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * This would also be consistent with all the other articles about British coronations, which use the relevant coronation portrait(s) as their lead images and nothing else. A.D.Hope (talk) 19:54, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with this. Leventio (talk) 19:55, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and implemented this given what the discussion above, and it being the last stable image before the introduction of the photomontage. Leventio (talk) 00:17, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I think that's a good call. If the lead image is changed again we can perhaps direct editors toward this discussion to continue building a consensus. A.D.Hope (talk) 15:46, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Ongoing Image Discussion for the 2023 collage
This article is a candidate for the ongoing discussion about the 2023 collage image. Feel free to participate here. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 22:01, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

Hidden table template
Minor quibble, but can somebody fix the template for "Bearers and presenters of regalia" which currently sits in the centre of the page. the other hidden wikitables in the "Music" section sit on the left, which looks a lot better (to my eye at least). I would have fixed this myself, but it's beyond my comprehension I'm afraid, and I don't want to mess it up. Alansplodge (talk) 13:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)