Talk:Cristiano Ronaldo/Archive 6

Mistake
It states that he scored his 1000th premier league goal when it was actually his 100th. Chances are it is a typo! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.197.92.36 (talk) 00:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No, it's says he scored Manchester United's 1000th Premier League goal. Read it again. – PeeJay 01:33, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Cristiano Ronaldo & Kim Kardashian caught under media spotlight
Bhaijan81 (talk) 07:32, 19 April 2010 (UTC) Real Madrid star footballer Cristiano Ronaldo and Playboy model Kim Kardashian were seen together in Madrid, The Daily Sun reported the story. Its the second time that Ronaldo was spotted by the media with a Hollywood celebrity. This time CR9 was seen with Kim Kardashian. The news came only a few days after Real Madrid lost an important El Clasico match against Barcelona. Cristiano Ronaldo & Kim Kardashian caught in spotlight

goals
--75.16.161.199 (talk) 21:55, 5 May 2010 (UTC) please mention that ronoldo score a hat-trick vs Mallorca on may 5, 2010

Section about his relationships?
Cristiano is well known for having been in many high profile romantic relationships. Should there be a section about that? AmericanAnthropologist1 (talk) 01:52, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

yes as he has been caught with hookers twice its unfair that other big personal news on others celeb wikipedia is okay but footballers not —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.22.199.25 (talk) 20:28, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Mistake
On Cristiano Ronaldo's goals section, it says he scored 22 goals for Portugal in his career. He actually scored 23 goals for Portugal. He scored twice in the 2006 World Cup in Germany, both being on penatly kicks. If you check on FIFA.com under the 2006 World Cup results for Portugal, it states that he scored a goal against Iran and a second in the penalty shootout with England. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aznmex21 (talk • contribs) 09:19, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Goals scored in penalty shootouts do not count as proper goals. – PeeJay 09:27, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

sv:Cristiano Ronaldo
Is sv:Cristiano Ronaldo a featured article? Newone (talk) 03:41, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

No, it is a recommended article. Tb hotch Ta lk C. 17:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Fifa yellow card - citation needed
was just reading this earlier and noticed someone mentioned that a citation was missing.

Fifa official statement - http://img.fifa.com/worldcup/news/newsid=1250723/index.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.111.52.133 (talk) 03:55, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Advertising campaigns - Is Wikipedia now new ad platform?
I think it is very offensive to add the "Advertising campaign" section to this article. Wikipedia is not intended to be part of the commercial interests of persons mentioned in it. The athletic successes of Cristiano Ronaldo are acceptable of course! Right now I can not edit this article. Please remove the section "Advertising campaigns" as it is irrelevant. Moviefan10 (talk) 14:54, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It does seem a bit promotional, any other thought or objections to removing it as promotional? Off2riorob (talk) 15:00, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Information given in this section may not be promotional by intent, but is actual promotional, as certain companies are mentioned in reference to Cristiano Ronaldo. This information has no long term significance about this person. The weight of this information is also not provided in similar situation of other top athletes. Moviefan10 (talk) 15:11, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

So it is not normal to add such promo stuff to similar articles? Off2riorob (talk) 15:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

There is nothing comparable at David_Beckham ? I have pulled it for now, perhaps it could be an article in itself like a The businesses interests of Ronaldo. Please discuss more. Off2riorob (talk) 15:32, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Aluink, 25 June 2010
The request to have his yellow card rescinded was refused by FIFA. This source can serve for both the request and response.

http://sports.rediff.com/report/2010/jun/17/football-world-cup-2010-portugal-ask-fifa-to-cancel-ronaldo-yellow-card.htm

Aluink (talk) 15:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Note: Rediff is a tertiary information-gatherer, the actual ref is Reuters, shown below.  Chzz  ► 19:35, 25 June 2010 (UTC)




 * Please change X. —ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ ( ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ ) 21:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Consider this request ✅ :) --Diego Grez let's talk 22:11, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Leoham burger, 30 June 2010
His height is 1.85m according to ESPN.

Leoham burger (talk) 06:54, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

He has a son
http://www.facebook.com/Cristiano his official facebook states that he recently became a father. news agencies will probably report it soon. Backeby (talk) 23:30, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * So wait them. Tb hotch Ta lk C.  23:31, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Major Madeiran newspaper reports the facebook/twitter status: http://www.dnoticias.pt/actualidade/desporto/217094-cristiano-ronaldo-anuncia-que-ja-e-pai
 * Also Portuguese news source: http://www.marca.com/2010/07/04/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1278200073.html
 * Etc etc it will be everywhere soon. I feel this should go in the article as a "it was reported by x and y that..." even if it turns out to be a hack but that's up to everyone else. --Suki Dakara 00:17, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Why is not here by Irina Shayk? The two are supposedly to be a couple! Although the story that the two are said to have met earlier this year in an Armani photo shoot to be false. Cristiano Ronaldo has get a man named Peter Listerman thus instructed in Russian women. One of the ladies was Irina Shayk. Actually it was a Valeria Sokolova scheduled for Cristiano, but the English understanding is probably not working and so CR has decided to Irina. There are also several Russian and Polish newspaper article. Anhören Umschrift Wörterbuch - Detaillierten Wörterbucheintrag anzeigenGoogle Übersetzer für:SuchenVideosE-MailTelefonChatUnternehmenÜber Google ÜbersetzerSofortübersetzung deaktivierenDatenschutzHilfe ©2010Business ToolsÜber Google ÜbersetzerBlogIhr ErfahrungsberichtDatenschutzHilfe

Personal Life - Hes a dad
Gestifute (official represenatives of Cristiano Ronaldo) confirmed the news to portuguese newspaper Destak. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.136.152.161 (talk) 09:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC) It is with great joy and emotion that I inform I have recently become father to a baby boy. As agreed with the baby's mother, who prefers to have her identity kept confidential, my son will be under my exclusive guardianship. No further information will be provided on this subject and I request everyone to fully respe...ct my right to privacy (and that of the child) at least on issues as personal as these are. <-- posted on facebook. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.254.199 (talk) 23:27, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. Personally I don't see any reason to favour the ESPN source over the current one.  AJ Cham  07:14, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

This has not yet been 'officially' confirmed and the posts have since been removed from Facebook & Twitter arousing suspicion his social networking accounts have been compromised. Until stone cold proof has been provided and a proper statement released, entry should be edit accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stueydessler (talk • contribs) 17:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

It is officially confirmed by Gestifute and nothing was removed from facebook or twitter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.136.152.161 (talk) 18:29, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Kinzs, 22 July 2010
editsemiprotected

Cristiano's actual soccer number is 7 or 17. google pictures confirm this.

Kinzs (talk) 03:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The jersey number that appears in the infobox is the number Ronaldo wears with Real Madrid which is 9. Regards --Bocafan76 (talk) 03:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Mouli106, 30 July 2010

 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Bejinhan   talks   11:59, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Assits Information
Assists as we all know is an important stat for any footballer. the stats are available on the ESPNSoccernet site and could be included here. I am compiling the Assists data for easier inclusion. The same can be verified in Soccernet and added.


 * ESPN Stats

International
Mouli106 (talk) 09:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Assists are not important statistics, especially when you consider that they are open to massive interpretation. How do we define an assist? How does that stats website define an assist? Surely their definition will be different to the definition of another stats site. There's just far too much ambiguity about assists, and for that reason I recommend that this change not be made to this article. – PeeJay 10:51, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed, mostly. I think, if the league kept an official of tally of assists, then it makes sense. Or if OPTA stats were widely and easily accessible. Failing that, I think it fails either WP:V or WP:NOR. Mosmof (talk) 14:07, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Squad number change?
Would someone please provide a source for Ronaldo's squad number change?! I know Raul has left Real for Schalke, which leaves the #7 shirt available, but the Real Madrid website still lists Ronaldo as #9, and their club shop is still selling shirts with "Ronaldo 9" on the back, so the evidence is currently quite overwhelming. – PeeJay 21:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Although Ronaldo's profile on the Real Madrid website still has him listed as #9, there's a picture of a "Ronaldo 7" jersey on the page and the club shop page has now been updated to show him as being 7 with Benzema as 9. This wouldn't be the first time that new squad numbers were revealed via a club shop, so it seems certain now that Ronaldo will wear 7 this season.

92.30.156.191 (talk) 14:11, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Cristiano played his first game on 4 August and was wearing the "7", also, Karim Benzema was wearing the 9. If you take a look now wikipedia shows that two real madrid players have the "9" jersey :) Great. XavierHD (talk) 22:01, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Per the Real Madrid Official Website His number is the "7" not the "9", and if its possible unprotect it, since it was protected for this reason. Tb hotch Ta lk C. 22:16, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Weird, they must have changed the club shop image on Ronaldo's profile since the last time I looked, because the last time I looked it still showed "Ronaldo 9". Nevertheless, I'm happy for the article to be unprotected since this is now reliably sourced. – PeeJay 01:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done. Article now unprotected (well back down to semi-) and I removed the note and deleted the edit notice about not changing 9 to 7. Rambo's Revenge (talk)  15:16, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from fatcowxlive, 8 August 2010
editsemiprotected

Cristiano Ronaldo has 292 Appearances and 118 Goals for Manchester United But its recorded 196 Appearance and 84 Goals for United on wiki which is wrong! Reference: http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={847FFC5F-947A-470D-A13B-E757FD63C2A8}&teamid=1445&bioid=93643

fatcowxlive (talk) 17:53, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * First of all, you have to put new comments at the bottom of the page. Second of all, the infobox is only for league appearances, and I think you'll find that the stats are quite correct. – PeeJay 17:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright thanks for clearing that up man! - fatcowxlive (talk) 19:20, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Poor Wiki
You Didn't Complete Ronaldo's Career In Real Madrid .. You Stopped In The 1st leg. Almeria's Match .. Please continue —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.239.182.12 (talk) 21:00, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Why don't you do it? – PeeJay 23:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC) junyde rehman

Edit request from 69.239.48.45, 11 September 2010
Individual Awards: Premier league goal of the month January 2008, March 2008 Portuguese Player of the year 2006-2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.239.48.45 (talk) 21:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

SORRY Wrong Article
Sry guys i was editing the Drillo Article and copied the Image line, i thought i placed it at the other article, but iv fixed it back to normal now —Preceding unsigned comment added by MiniDude (talk • contribs) 23:06, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

ronaldo stats, 22 September 2010
ronaldo has scored twice this season and assisted 9 maybe you should add that to his statistics source via http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1193041476158/1202773887674/jugador/Jugador/Cristiano_Ronaldo.htm

Not done: Please provide the content you would like to add. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 15:15, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

No. of matches and goals for 2010-11 la-liga season is wrong.
No. of goals is 2 in 5 la-liga matches. sources: http://en.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/players/player=63706/domestic/index.html http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1193041476158/1202773887674/jugador/Jugador/Cristiano_Ronaldo.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by Subhojitg (talk • contribs) 09:01, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 65.8.31.33, 5 October 2010
Up until the 6 round of La Liga Cristiano Ronaldo has scored 4 goals, according to ESPNsoccernet La Liga Statistics (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/topscorers?league=esp.1&cc=5901) and Marca.com rankings Globales(http://www.marca.com/estadisticas/futbol/primera/2010_11/ranking.html)

65.8.31.33 (talk) 21:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Is this an alteration or an addition? Off2riorob (talk) 21:38, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Ronaldo did not score against Real Sociedad. His freekick goal that deflected off Pepe was initially given to him, but RFEF later revised the match report and credited the goal to Pepe.  ESPN Soccernet, Marca, and Realmadrid.com never corrected their respective match reports.Xboxandhalo2 (talk) 00:17, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: per above. Thanks, Stickee (talk)  02:41, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Ronaldo scored 10 goals at in La Liga at this season (2010/11), not as it's written (9 goals). Here it's written as 10 goals in Marca.com website, because the LFP accepted that free kick goal which hit Pepe in the match against Espanyol is a goal for ronaldo:
 * That's not true. The goal that Marca changes is against Real Sociedad: LFP RFEF —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.60.236.229 (talk) 18:49, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

In marca.com ronaldo has 23 goals! this just proves that wikipedia is very untrusty — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riskas513 (talk • contribs) 23:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No, Ronaldos goal count is based on lfp.es which is the official governing body of the spanish league to whom the referees report the goal scorers. Marca has its own method of counting goals and is only used for their piichi award, it is not an officila award and neither is their bloated goal count!

Playing style
How about a "playing style" section for one of the best players in the world? Portillo (talk) 11:36, 26 September 2010 (UTC) what is the name from C.Ronaldo his family dad or mum ??????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.181.101.98 (talk) 16:16, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Artumi, 20 April 2011
In season 2010/2011 section -> in the Copa del Rey final on 103 minutes with a bullet header from a Mesut Ozil pass Should be -> from a Angel Di Maria pass

Br,

Artur M.

Artumi (talk) 22:36, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done by User:Narcis90. — Bility (talk) 22:55, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Sanjaypoudel, 21 April 2011
Total games played and goals scored in Club career is wrong. As of today, April 21, 2011, CR. Ronaldo has scored 75 goals from 82 appearances for Real Madrid. The wiki is showing 74 goals from 81 appearances.

Also total goal scored by him in his Manchester United career is shown as 118 whereas this is also wrong. It should be 128. Sum up the values. You will find what is wrong in both the cases.

Thanks, sanjay

Sanjaypoudel (talk) 23:54, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Sources for this please? The  Helpful  One  17:16, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit request
this liner note is incorrectly written

Excludes 1 goal scored on 18 September 2010 away to Real Sociedad, which some sources attribute to Pepe while others attribute it to Ronaldo, including Marca who awards the Pichichi trophy

The goal in question is officially given to Pepe (see lfp.es), the only source attributing it to Ronaldo is Marca for their pichichi award (an award itself only recognized by Marca). This is thus a phantom goal that only exists in the fantasy of Marca editors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.145.72.164 (talk) 06:22, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi! I'm think Ronaldo has 36 goals, because the lfp officialy given to pepe, and the other sources or websites aren't officaily in this question. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sierra2008 (talk • contribs) 00:04, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Number of total assists for 2010-11 season
The number of total assists during the 2010-11 season should not be 7 but instead 15 = 10 (Liga) + 1 (Copa del Rey) + 4 (Champions League).

Thank you. 89.181.193.31 (talk) 00:18, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

A suggestion for complementary updated info on Ronaldo
Hello,

I'm the administrator of a Cristiano Ronaldo website (www.ronaldo7.net), on which I've been working and submitting news articles almost on a daily basis since last November. I honestly believe it may be a valuable source to be pointed from here, as it may add value to any visitor's experience that passes by wikipedia looking for information on Cristiano Ronaldo. I try to offer a wide variety of information on Ronaldo, from a simple biography where I'm putting my best efforts to manually translate it to several languages (I got it done into English and Portuguese so far), to full season stats, game photos and a very complete news articles database. I've written more than 200 news articles related to Cristiano Ronaldo since November '2010. One thing I've always been doing since I also regard it as a "must" is always quoting my sources references whenever I submit any news article. I'm Portuguese and my English typing skills are still far from perfect, but I'm attempting to improve on that as I keep working on this project. Any possibility for an editor to point a link reference to my website or a particular section of it would be highly appreciated. If there's any other information you may need from my side, I'll be at your disposal.

Thanks in advance,

Guilherme Neto Ronaldo7net (talk) 11:25, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

(missing prize)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristiano_Ronaldo#Individual Portuguese Footballer of the Year: 1 2006–07 (missing prize) 2007-08 and 2008-09

source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNID_Awards_in_football#Best_Portuguese_Footballer_in_Foreign_Countries

(renew the missing information) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.54.75.224 (talk) 15:11, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

CORRECT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristiano_Ronaldo#Individual Portuguese Footballer of the Year: 1 2006–07 (missing prize) 2007-08, 2008-09 and 2010-11( three-year raw) source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNID_Awards_in_football#Best_Portuguese_Footballer_in_Foreign_Countries — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 21:03, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Honours
I have added, or at least tried to add, two national team achievements by Ronaldo which include runner-up at Euro 2004 and fourth place at the 2006 FIFA World Cup. Including national team achievements that aren't exclusively first place on a football player's article, is not out of the ordinary. To the contrary, I would say that this article not including these achievements is what's out of the ordinary. Adding that information does not violate the guidelines of WP:WPF and the only counterargument brought up thus far by user PeeJay2K3 on the revision history of Ronaldo, is that they're not first place accomplishments. Just to give you an idea of how common these national team, non-first place, mentions are, here are just some high profile articles which include just that. Georgiamode01 (talk) 21:36, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * First of all, I never said it violated guidelines; I said it went against a consensus agreed upon by members. Second, according to WP:WAX, just because something is included on another page doesn't mean it should be included on this one. I could just as easily show you a plethora of articles that don't include second-, third- and fourth-place 'honours'. But anyway, that's beside the point; the real reason why we shouldn't include these is because you don't actually win anything for coming second, third or fourth. Sometimes the runners-up get a silver medal, and even more rarely does the third-placed team get a bronze medal, but on the whole, those achievements are nothing compared to actually winning something. After all, I've never seen a second-place trophy on display in the trophy room in the Manchester United F.C. museum. – PeeJay 21:44, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The reason that I mentioned those articles is because there doesn't seem to be any controversy there with regards to those achievements, yet it's present here? I read through the discussions both on WP:WPF and the "Player articles" manual of style page and did not catch your reference. Care to show me where this consensus, concerning this argument, is at? Also, if you're going to make a semantics argument, picking out a narrow definition and claiming that as the be all, end all is not going to help when most dictionaries will not support that. The argument could easily be made that simply reaching the final four gives you at least a fourth place win. A win nonetheless.Georgiamode01 (talk) 22:08, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It may not have been discussed on the WikiProject's talk page itself, but this is certainly a convention that long-serving Project members have never had a problem with in the past. Perhaps it should be brought up at WT:FOOTY instead of here in order to create a more formal consensus. Please, do the honours. – PeeJay 22:39, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

facebook
The number of fans of Cristiano Ronaldo 32,794,034, while the article was written in 10 million--77.30.93.245 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:21, 18 August 2011 (UTC).

"Makes him the highest paid footballer in the world"
This should be changed to "made him..." Eto'o now gets more. 194.171.56.13 (talk) 15:26, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks for pointing that out. --Mosmof (talk) 21:58, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Ronaldo's assists for his country
I've done a bit of research and want to add Ronaldo's assists for Portugal ever since he started to play for "Selecção":

2004 (6): Russia 0-2 Portugal (Euro 2004) - 2nd goal; Latvia 0-2 Portugal (WC 2006 qualifying) - 2nd goal; Portugal 4-0 Estonia (WC 2006 qualifying) - 2nd and 4th goals; Liechtenstein 2-2 Portugal (WC 2006 qualifying) - 1st goal; Portugal 7-1 Russia (WC 2006 qualifying) - 1st goal;

2005 (1): Portugal 2-1 Liechtenstein (WC 2006 qualifying) - 1st goal;

2006 (2): Saudi Arabia 0-3 Portugal (Friendly) - 2nd goal; Portugal 3-0 Azerbaijan (Euro 2008 qualifying) - 2nd goal;

2007 (0)

2008 (2): Czech Republic 1-3 Portugal (Euro 2008) - 3rd goal; Portugal 2-3 Germany (Euro 2008) - 1st goal;

2009 (1): Portugal 3-0 Hungary (WC 2010 qualifying) - 1st goal;

2010 (7): Portugal 2-0 China (Friendly) - 1st goal; Portugal 3-1 Cameroon (Friendly) - 3rd goal; Mozambique 0-3 Portugal (Friendly) - 3rd goal; Portugal 7-0 North Korea (WC 2010) - 4th goal; Portugal 3-1 Denmark (Euro 2012 qualifying) - 1st goal; Iceland 1-3 Portugal (Euro 2012 qualifying) - 3rd goal; Portugal 4-0 Spain (Friendly) - 1st goal;

2011 (1): Cyprus 0-4 Portugal (Euro 2012 qualifying) - 3rd goal Tarts2 (talk) 12:41, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * First of all, how do you define an "assist"? Last pass? Last meaningful contribution? Last touch of the ball? Every source has different interpretations, so there's the first stumbling block. Second, WP:FOOTY is against the addition of assists to stats boxes anyway. – PeeJay 13:04, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, first, as defined in this Wiki, as the last pass before the finishing touch is given, so ocassions where a player passes the ball, the eventual goalscorer controls the ball and THEN scores are not counted. Also, when the player who gives an assist makes a shot, it's saved by the goalkeeper and the assisted player scores. That counts as an assist too. Tarts2 (talk) 13:14, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I have never seen such a definition given on this Wikipedia. Where did you find it? – PeeJay 14:21, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Search "Assist (football)" in Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarts2 (talk • contribs) 14:25, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia cannot be a reference for itself. If you want to add assists data to this page (which WP:FOOTY would still not support), you will have to find independent statistical analysis. Simply observing matches and applying your own definition of an assist would be a violation of WP:OR. – PeeJay 14:31, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Fine then, I just thought I would contribute a bit. But since it's such a controversial subject, I'll drop it. Tarts2 (talk) 14:34, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not controversial, just unverifiable and too open to interpretation. No need to be passive aggressive about it. Mosmof (talk) 04:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Assists
It would be nice to have cristiano ronaldo's assists stats also in the national team and not only in clubs he played in. Leo Messi has these stats in his article... Gabi February 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.68.158.203 (talk • contribs) 09:03, 16 February 2011‎ (UTC)
 * Where is assists of CR7? Last season there were existing, who did erase them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.140.110.28 (talk) 07:21, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Ronaldo's real height
Ronaldo's height is actually 185.1cm, not 186cm. Proof is in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7vYfKfI87U. See 10:55. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.17.169 (talk) 03:55, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Height is the sort of thing where reporting can be so unreliable that "proving" someone's height, at least to Wikipedia's level of verifiability is impossible and pointless. Better to go with the officially listed measurements. --Mosmof (talk) 04:22, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

No, in this case that is his actual height. It's a state of the art 3D laser scanner. It measures every single part of his body. It has his wrist girth, upper, mid and lower arms/calves, neck, chest etc, all to the mm. It will be exactly accurate on height - possibly the most accurate height read out you could ever get, and it's on TV. Not changing it is ridiculous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.114.88.251 (talk) 13:49, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes the method of measurement is accurate but it's impossible to know whether that's his absolute actual height as height varies throughout the day. Taken from the human height article: "The height of each person can change in the short-term depending on factors such as the amount of exercise done directly before measurement, or the time elapsed since lying down for a significant period of time." A measurement by the scanner later in the day and after doing exercise will give a lower height than a measurement made right after waking up. El0i (talk) 20:11, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Number of goals and appearances in Real Madrid
Hey everyone. I just noted that the number of goals and appearances CR7 has had in Real Madrid aren't updated - it says something with with 70 goals in 75, when it is really is about 98 goals in 102 matches. And I just wanted to correct this, but then wikipedia wanted me to write here, to get the permission to do this ;) Ruben Hogh - DK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RubenHogh (talk • contribs) 13:14, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, that's actually because only league games are counted on the infobox, so figures are correct as they are. El0i (talk) 20:52, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from, 4 November 2011
I want to add new details about Ronaldo being at Real Madrid and also he posted on twitter to me for adding new information to it as i am a very close guy to him.Hope you let me edit. Thanks

HustleLoyalityRespect (talk) 18:00, 4 November 2011 (UTC)


 * What do you want to add? Is it by any chance rubbish like this [] El0i (talk) 18:09, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, being "very close to" Ronaldo woud constitute a conflict of interest and the editor should refrain from editing this article. Mosmof (talk) 01:21, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Ronaldo scored more than 84 goals when he was in manchester united — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faris Eid 7 (talk • contribs) 12:31, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

CORRECT ANY ERRORS IN
Why isn't the list of personal awards for Ronaldo?

1)cristiano ronaldo ESM Team of the Year : 2006–07 2007–08 2010–11

2)Portuguese footballer of the Year, was chosen 1 times but 4 times. Player of the Year AWARD COUNTRY HAS 4 TIMES

3)Why assists removed?We want to be written in assists.

no longer correct these errors. no longer correct these errors. no longer correct these errors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 17:01, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ESM honors aren't official awards of sanctioning bodies like FIFA or UEFA. I'm sure we can have a discussion about their notability, but I'm not sure if they're any more important than honors that don't make the list.
 * Which Portuguese Footballer of the Year award?
 * Assists aren't officially recorded stats. I know news organizations and stat analysis firms record assists but standards aren't consistent so the numbers aren't universal, so WP:V is going to be an issue until leagues start recording assists. --Mosmof (talk) 01:33, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

facebook error
Ronaldo is 35 million the number of fans

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristiano_Ronaldo#Personal_life (10 million is not) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 17:05, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It says "In August 2010", and the source says 10 million. Although 35 is correct, we go by reliable sources. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  18:56, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, the number of Facebook fans (as in, people who took the considerable time and trouble to click on a button) seems like the kind of thing nobody gives a shit about. --Mosmof (talk) 19:14, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

INFORMATION CANNOT BE SO MANY MISSING
This is the demand here. Everyone is waiting for the correction of errors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 22:34, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

The missing information
Where is assists of CR7?We want to be written in assists

35 million fan(facebook)

)cristiano ronaldo ESM Team of the Year : 2006–07 2007–08 2010–11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 22:37, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

The prize includes Lionel Messi so why have the ESM team of the year?
Why is not the official award of the page if you have messi?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Sports_Magazines

cristiano ronaldo ESM Team of the Year : 2006–07 2007–08 2010–11

no need to type — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 14:25, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

assists, statistics is still unwritten
cristiano ronaldo s asisstleri to be written.

the other players because it is written — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 14:28, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

When the missing information to be written?
I have very incomplete information about cristiano ronaldo. Everyone changing some of the missing or incorrect information, even though there is nothing to write. Read a bit and correct the errors. The information above has a very logical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 13:41, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

cristiano ronaldo (Asisst)
Why re-written and deleted? assists the deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 23:42, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Your concerns have already been addressed. Also, you don't need to start a new section every time you want to say something - just place your response under the most recent comment. In fact, starting a new section every time makes it harder to respond and is, to be frank, rather annoying.--Mosmof (talk) 01:19, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

ANSWER:I did as you said, thank you for alerting.As I mentioned before, there is missing information. Why re-written and assists deleted? and Many players in the post award (ESM Team of the year) of the page, why not cristiano ronaldo? very simple to fix things so difficult? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 00:19, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know why the assists were removed (perhaps you can ask the user who made the edit?), but I've already outlined my reservations against including assists. Also, "it shows up in other articles" isn't a very good reason to include something. It's just as good a reason to remove it from other articles. --Mosmof (talk) 01:21, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Writes assists other players. But Ronaldo is still not written. From there it's correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 17:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Already there are always errors.Where Cristiano Ronaldo's assists?Footballer of the Year was named as the country more.Everyone wants an update type errors.Now, update your current page.Do not you tired of folks are tired of typing.!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 13:40, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Cristiano ronaldo international games (And his club and international assist stats)
(1) Bosnia and Herzegovina with no match.National number of the match was 86. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 15:02, 12 November 2011 (UTC) Ronaldo scored 32 goals in 87 appearances. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 22:53, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

(2) Can someone add ronaldo's assists for club AND international games please?! every other major player has it! As for the person asking what defines as assist, it is the last pass before a goal, espnsoccernet.com and whoscored.com, two of the best stat sites count assists this way. The same rule has been used to count the number of assists for other players like rooney, messi, silva, giggs, villa and co for years so I see no reason why it shouldn't apply to ronaldo.

His club assists was on this page before but it was taken off for some reason. Also, as the other fella noted in his 9th september edit, he currently has 20 asssists for portugal, he hasnt assisted since then so it is still 20, do it please! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.160.185.76 (talk) 16:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Please correct the mistakes
1-Ronaldo scored more than 84 goals when he was in manchester united 2-Why are not added to assists? Ronaldo is no longer assists of the written.Not write to insist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 22:26, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Where Ronaldo's assists?Why is not added?How many times was written, but I still do not update. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 13:30, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

How is this contradiction? Of the other players have also assists ronaldo, why not?
ESM team of the year awards is writing the other players.Ronaldo does not write.I told you 20 times, but nothing changed. ESM team of the year Cristiano Ronaldo was elected 3 times.

Writes all the players in the same manner assists.But Ronaldo page, why not? Assists where? Writes other players.Ronaldo also assists of the written.Also specified that it 20 times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 15:04, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 December 2011
"Current Club" information under "Club Information" is incorrect for Cristiano Ronaldo. Information should read "Real Madrid" instead of "KS Kamza."

Aznmex21 (talk) 09:14, 12 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Corrected, thanks. El0i (talk) 10:48, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Ronaldoooooo???
Other players necessary and unnecessary written to each award.Cristiano Ronaldo of the awards and no assists. Global soccer `` Congress was elected the best player.http://www.globesoccer.com/previous-edition/globe-soccer-awards/ Global soccer:2010  (and now want to add assists.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 09:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

I still do not update.http://www.globesoccer.com/previous-edition/globe-soccer-awards/ Global soccer:2010 Written in the pages of the other players ESM TEAM OF THE YEAR.Why not on Ronaldo?Written in other players awards.Ronaldo page you do not write.WHY? ESM TEAM OF THE YEAR:2006–07 2007–08 2010–11 2011–12: 4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 19:09, 9 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I really don't understand what you're trying to say.  Banaticus (talk) 20:39, 9 January 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't know what the ESM team of the year is. European Sports Media gives no references, so that page should probably be deleted.  The ESM website makes mention of a team of the month, but I don't see anything about a team of the year.  The globe soccer link you gave says that the winners are Mendes, Galliani, and Gil -- no mention is made of Ronaldo other than that he "sprang a surprise by sending a double video message..."  I'm not seeing that Ronaldo won anything there.  As far as assists go, I see that he made six career assists, but I don't see them broken down as to when he made them (whether in the Olympics, in a regular game, etc.), which is why I haven't added them to the article.  Besides, it's only six assists, not very much -- he's no Michael Jordan.  Do you know of any newspaper articles, any magazines, any news articles that talk about these things?  You might want to sign your comments with four ~'s, with ~ which will then be automatically replaced with your signature, so that people can more easily see who made a comment. :) Banaticus (talk) 21:12, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Asisst ESM team of the year and the page number messi lionel var.Ronaldo of the page, there's no reason? His page must also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 00:09, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Professional career totals Teams	Appearances	Goals	Goals per game Clubs	435	        234	      0.54

The table is out of date. The correct (Apperarances:440) (Goals:236)
 * Cristiano ronaldo have 19 appearences in la liga not 18.(86.122.230.123 (talk) 13:47, 22 January 2012 (UTC)sir marian86.122.230.123 (talk))
 * Cristiano ronaldo have 5 appearences in uefa champions league,not 4,so he have 33 matches 31 goals.(86.122.230.95 (talk)wkilegend86.122.230.95 (talk)) —Preceding undated comment added 08:11, 10 February 2012 (UTC).

missing awards(cristiano ronaldo)
FIFA FIFPro World XI 2007 2009 2010 2011: 4

ESM TEAM OF THE YEAR 2006-07 2007-08 2010-11: 3

Missing information.Include the awards.Add your. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 10:48, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 February 2012
2011/12 Spanish La Liga GAMES	GOALS	ASSISTS	SHOTS 26	32	7	176 This is how many goals, assists, and shots CR7 has in La Liga for 2011-2012 Season so far with out the 3/18/12 game against Malaga. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/22774/cristiano-dos-santos-aveiro-ronaldo?cc=5901

http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1193041476158/1202773887674/jugador/Jugador/Cristiano_Ronaldo.htm In this website shows all games played, goals, assists, shots on target and much more for La Liga, Champions League, Copa del Rey for 2011-2012 season.

pls add assits of our legend ronaldo in the table because all the football stars profiles having that like messi..for reference see messi Wikipedia page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Messi

Omkar n (talk) 03:57, 18 February 2012 (UTC)


 * That page has a breakdown of where the assists were made, "League	Cup	Champions League	Supercup	UEFA Super Cup	Club World Cup" -- where did Ronaldo make his assists? Where can I find this information to add it to the Wikipedia page? Banaticus (talk) 04:07, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Not done: Please express your request in a 'please change X to Y' level of detail and provide reliable sources for any factual changes. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 01:20, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 February 2012
Underneath Ronaldo's picture, it reads Ronaldo in Real Madrid, please change this to Ronaldo for Real Madrid

Cartinmike (talk) 23:22, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  23:43, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 March 2012
Please add cristiano ronaldo's assist numbers too. Why someone removed it? I think the editor is anti cristiano or a messi fan.

71.202.41.38 (talk) 02:16, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: Please express your request in a 'please change X to Y' degree of detail and include reliable sources for any factual changes. Also, please assume good faith and avoid making personal attacks. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 07:15, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

What is wrong with that photo? CHANGE IT!
[http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j479/gabriieladiiaz/botadeoro.jpg Use this one! (Golden Boot)] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabriieladiiaz (talk • contribs) 05:16, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ❌ We can't use copyrighted photographs, especially in living persons. Tb hotch .™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it!  See terms and conditions.  06:50, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Why Mugs removed?
where team trophies won by Sporting Lisbon? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.240.162.230 (talk) 13:08, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 March 2012
Real Madrid appearances needs to be changed to 100 and his goals for Real Madrid as of 14th March 2012 need to be changed to 105 goals.

88.109.32.68 (talk) 23:48, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ❌. The infobox clearly states that only senior club appearances and goals in domestic league competition are included. The statistics you proved are also incorrect. The table in section six of the article provides the correct statistics. Argyle 4 Life  talk  00:01, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 December 2011
the career statistics table has quiet good information. but it would have been better if assists were also mentioned besides just goals. if an citation is needed http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/22774/cristiano-dos-santos-aveiro-ronaldo?cc=5739 can be used. really looking forward to a positive change.

People comparing Ronaldo with Messi would find assists useful. Cant find a single source for Ronaldo assists, but must exist somewhere as they do for Messi. They play in all the same competitions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.90.181.5 (talk) 23:15, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

PJM2489 (talk) 13:08, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

1cristiano ronaldo ESM Team of the Year : 2006–07 2007–08 2010–11 (Other players writes.)Why does not write her that? 2Where is assists of CR7?We want to be written in assists.Where Ronaldo's assists? How many people tell me to correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.238.248 (talk) 18:44, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Cristiano Ronaldo is 185.1 cm as measured by a laser in the Castrol challenge, which would round down to 185 cm. Please correct.Italic text  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.214.131.210 (talk) 17:43, 27 December 2011 (UTC)


 * First, his height. There's a valid reference for 186.5cm, given in the intial infobox template.  Do you have a reference for this laser height test?  If you do have one, then it should list both heights, since they both would presumably be valid references.  As to his career assists, his career goals are broken up by clubs, Olympics, etc.  Do you have a source that would break his assists up like that?  Otherwise it would sort of look a little funny to have them hanging out on their own, since he only has six assists in his career.  That's my opinion, at least.  Please let me know on my talk page if you'd like more help. :) Banaticus (talk) 11:36, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Don't know how this works but here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpMhf5XWNEw 10:55. Surely a laser body scanner is the most accurate, regardless of the first reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.120.47.90 (talk) 19:05, 7 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Not done. 1.851 m to 1.86 m would display as: "1.851 m (6 ft 1 in) to 1.86 m (6 ft 1 in)" That's not really a difference, as far as feet and inches go, and the centimeter difference is within the range of average height variation throughout the day on Human height. Also, the YouTube reference isn't valid -- it's not the official Castrol Edge YouTube channel.  Banaticus (talk) 20:35, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 March 2012
Please change the appearances and goal tally for his Manchester United F.C. years to 292 appearances and 118 goals. Through a video source, it shows he has that many goals in his 292 appearances. Source of my proof will be after the corrected code.

| years2 = 2003–2009 |clubs2 = Manchester United |caps2 = 292 |goals2 = 118

http://www.vidbux.com/bvenix03drto/Ronaldo-All.The.Goals.misterjay.avi.html http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/22774/cristiano-dos-santos-aveiro-ronaldo?cc=5901

Aznmex21 (talk) 06:54, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The infobox shows only domestic league stats. You can find more complete statistics in the "Career statistics" section that shows his appearances and goals in each and all competitions. Mosmof (talk) 14:44, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Wrong statment regarding Ronaldo as fastest to 100 goals
It has been reported that Ronaldo is the fastest player in la liga history to reach 100 goals (92 games), however, this is false since another player alredy did reach 100 goals faster (less games). The player in question is the Asturian Isidro Lángara (Oviedo) which reached 100 goals in only 82 games:
 * season 1933-34 18 matcher 26 goals
 * season 1934-35 22 matcher 27 goals
 * season 1935-36 21 matcher 28 goals
 * season 1946-47 20 matcher 18 goals
 * season 1947-48 scored in his first appearance on matchday 2

This gives 100 goals in 82 games — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.54.198.204 (talk) 10:23, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

how do you know this? There needs to be a reference to add this information to the article. 24.22.140.222 (talk) 09:20, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Here is the reference, Lángara, el recordman de la Liga, que alcanzó la centena de goles a los 82 partidos

And one more reference from the official club page Real Madrid.com ''la mejor marca del campeonato lograda por el jugador del Oviedo Lángara, que necesitó 82 partidos. ''

Move the reference to the Castrol documenta-movie?
The documentary is definitely not relevant to that particular season, and most of the comments about it are uncited. It could probably be added to the intro with 'is able to score with his head and feet' as generic info about him. 24.22.140.222 (talk) 09:23, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

for clarity - I am referring to these sentences, currently under '2011-2012 season'. ''In the first weeks of September, Ronaldo's physical performance was subject to scrutiny by world media, after Castrol released a television film named Ronaldo: Tested to the Limit where he was put to test in several fields, including mental and physical. Conclusions from the movie and doctors in the weeks following claimed that Ronaldo was one of the best athletes in the world, excelling in football and outstanding in almost every other category.[citation needed] Several sources[weasel words] drew comparisons between him and other top athletes, including sprinter Usain Bolt.[citation needed]'' 24.22.140.222 (talk) 09:25, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit Request 4/21/12
The first para. refers to 1,000 million Euros as (English 1 billion). This should be changed to "American English 1 billion". In England, 1 billion is usually 1 million million.67.170.238.175 (talk) 21:16, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 April 2012
There is a typo at the end of the introduction; "... he his his free kicks with power and pace ..." should be: "... he hits his free kicks with power and pace ...". Shogunwarrior (talk) 19:03, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thanks. That was my typo. --Mosmof (talk) 19:22, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Ronaldo?
Why is he referred to as just "Ronaldo"? If I understand correctly, that is his middle name. I think he should be called Cristiano Ronaldo, Cristiano perhaps for short, or maybe even dos Santos (his last name). You'd never hear say, Mary-Kate Olsen as just "Kate" or John Paul Jones as just "Paul." Not only that but it leads to confusion with all of these Ronaldo_(name). ElAnimalSalvaje (talk) 16:32, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The logic behind it is irrelevant. He is commonly known as "Ronaldo", end of story, albeit less commonly than he is known as "Cristiano Ronaldo". – PeeJay 02:03, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe he is "commonly known" that way, but (a) what is "common" vs. "not common"? i.e. what standard is used? (b) how do you prove that standard? For example, Lionel Messi is "commonly known" as "La Pulga", but there are no references to it in his article. That's just one exmample... he is known as "Leo Messi" not "Lionel", but the article only refers to his foundation (which is OFFICIALLY TITLED Leo Messi Foundation so there's no alternative) that way. You can say "not AS commonly known" but again, what is the standard/cut-off? I'm willing to leave it as is, I really am... but I find your response ("logic = irrelevant... end of story") completely unsatisfactory. ElAnimalSalvaje (talk) 17:34, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If Lionel Messi is commonly referred to as "La Pulga", stick it in the article. No one is stopping you. However, the fact remains that Cristiano Ronaldo is commonly referred to as just "Ronaldo". There's no arguing that fact. It may not be his most common name, but it is a name commonly used to refer to him. – PeeJay 23:07, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You're rather not listening. Some people call Cristiano Ronaldo "Cris"... some people call him "Gaynaldo" or whatever. There is obviously a standard besides "it's common" and there's obviously a standard to just HOW common something is and there's obviously a standard to prove that it is in fact common. Or should I go ahead and stick in any name he's ever been known as that I personally deem "common"? Further, if the only standard is that something is "common", what is to stop me from changing all the references to "Ronaldo" to "Cristiano Ronaldo", or any other "common" name I choose? There must be a logical reason why we use one sometimes and not another, or why we use one and the other not at all. And if it's not, can I just change any of the ones I personally don't like as much for ones I find more pleasing? What's to stop me if you're willing to completely throw logic out of the window in favor of ONLY abiding by a totally undefined, unmeasured yardstick? 69.244.70.13 (talk) 21:49, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Is "Ronaldo" a common name for Cristiano Ronaldo? Yes. Is it often used by the media to refer to him? Yes. Case closed. – PeeJay 23:19, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm going to explain it the last time. If you don't understand, please don't say "case closed." Say "I don't understand." If you do understand please explain. I'm going to go one last time.

"Is Ronaldo a common name?" I don't know, is it? See, "common" is subjective. Is calling Ronaldo "a jerk" common? I don't know, possibly. It depends on what you mean by common. Is there some sort of poll, or study, or what? How do you determine what is "common" or not?
 * You have to (a) set criteria to define this subjective term and (b) prove that it does indeed meet these criteria.
 * The alternative is that anyone can deem anything common and insert it all over the Wiki.
 * Actually, I would say that the best case for using it that way is that he has worn it on his shirt (of course, many interesting nicknames are worn on the shirt and very few times would they be used. An easy example is his shirt frequently reads C. Ronaldo and I don't think we'd refer to him that way.) I think it's possible he is a person who prefers to be called by his middle name, even by his friends.  Or maybe after the success of Brazilian players named Ronaldo he decided he wanted to be called that. I'm speculating, but this would be interesting to know. For the moment I have no problem with referring to him simply as "Ronaldo," I am just curious as to the reasoning (which at the moment I've gotten basically none.) 69.244.70.13 (talk) 17:00, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm glad we got this settled. --Mosmof (talk) 18:18, 17 June 2012 (UTC)