Talk:Energy in Turkey

Peak energy?
When is peak energy (as opposed to peak electricity) demand and how much energy storage is needed when?

Merger proposal
I propose to merge Energy policy of Turkey into Energy in Turkey. I think that the Energy in Turkey article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Energy policy of Turkey will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned. As discussed at Talk:Energy policy of Turkey/GA1 it is not really big enogh by itself. And as there are now more specific articles such as Coal in Turkey and Electricity sector in Turkey the combined article should not grow too big in future. Chidgk1 (talk) 13:56, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

new cite?
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/energysource/coronavirus-emergency-measures-should-persuade-ukraine-romania-and-turkey-to-legitimize-energy-reform-not-reverse-it/

Missing cites
Article has a few broken short cites (see Category:Harv and Sfn multiple-target errors): Also, plain text cites should be converted to full citations or to sfn/harvnb cites: Thanks, Renata (talk) 04:31, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Gomez et al: Future skills (2019)
 * Ersoy (2019)
 * Saygın et al (2019)
 * OECD (2019)
 * Turkstat report (2019)
 * Europe Beyond Coal(2020)
 * Şahin (2018)
 * Aşıcı (2017)
 * Şahin (2019)
 * BP (2019)
 * Shura2018


 * Thanks - might you have time to do the good article review? Chidgk1 (talk) 12:33, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

cobuild reports
now 4 at https://www.cobenefits.info/country-studies-infographics/studies/turkey/ may be useful

Energy outlook 2021
also https://www.tskb.com.tr/i/assets/document/pdf/energy_outlook_2020.pdf

At end of May need to check if mmo have published this

Short description
First of all, feel free to answer me after your GAR concludes if you prefer: I will still be editing Wikipedia in one or two weeks 😊. I blanked the description per WP:SDNONE because I could not come up with a sub-40 characters short desc (per WP:SDSHORT) that was not redundant with the title of the article. I figured that, accordingly, the article did not need a short desc. JBchrch  talk  16:12, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * I think a shortdesc makes sense in this article, and while I did copy the new desc from Energy in the United Kingdom I think it's the best option we have, unless User:Chidgk1 or someone else disagrees. Uness232 (talk) 17:59, 5 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Ah I see now the short desc helper does not prompt for a change comment - I should have used the source editor and commented. Unfortunately I cannot find another "Energy in X" article which is rated "good" or above to copy from. Changed to "Make, use and trade energy in Turkey". But feel free to change again if you have better. Please use source editor and add a change comment to explain why better - thanks Chidgk1 (talk) 06:59, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * While Energy in the United Kingdom is not a good article, it is of fairly high quality and I believe has the best description for an article like this. The description you have added is gramatically incorrect, and even if that problem is fixed, the word 'make' can not be used as a noun in that sense. Uness232 (talk) 15:42, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Also, would be very happy if you addressed my final issue on section 3b so I can give this a pass? Thanks. Uness232 (talk) 15:49, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I remain unconvinced by either short descs. Make, use and trade energy in Turkey is grammatically incorrect and Overview of the use of energy in Turkey does not mention that the article adresses production and trade. Maybe, Production and use of energy in Turkey? I still think that none is more appropriate, though. JBchrch   talk  15:51, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You might be right actually, as my shortdesc runs into the problem of redundancy as well, as you mentioned in your first comment, so for now changing it to . Uness232 (talk) 18:39, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Precision versus readability in the lead
Hello Thanks for taking an interest in this somewhat neglected subject. I think for readability any percentages in the lead should be to the nearest 10% or 5%. Partly because hydropower varies so much from year to year but mainly for readability. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:08, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * OK should I use '10 percent' instead of '10%' ?? Metuboy (talk) 18:16, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers mentions body of article but not lead so I guess up to you. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:26, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help Chidgk! I really appreciate Metuboy (talk) 18:38, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Bir şey değil. By the way if you are interested in energy I have a few articles I am trying to bring to "good" standard awaiting review, such as Solar power in Turkey. I am sure if you reviewed one of my good article nominations you would be able to find a lot of things wrong and suggest a lot of improvements. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:50, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. I would love to help you out! Ofc Metuboy (talk) 12:12, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Can anyone improve the Turkish article?
Hello and other native speakers,

As you can see it is in bad shape. As my Turkish is poor it is hard for me to find good sources. If any of you could improve that article I expect you would find useful cites which you could also use here. As you know this is a hot topic so it would be great to bring both articles up to date. Chidgk1 (talk) 18:17, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * You mean improving this article in Turkish? or in English? Metuboy (talk) 12:11, 24 March 2022 (UTC)


 * I guess you are a native speaker of Turkish or bilingual? If not please ignore this. There are various articles about Turkey which are "good" in English but not in Turkish - tr:Türkiye'de enerji is one of them. If you or another native speaker are interesting in first improving tr:Türkiye'de enerji there should also be benefits for this article as it is almost a year since it was listed "good", so improving the Turkish article would likely reveal new sources or new info which should also be added here. Because the subject has moved on since a year ago. Also it should be easy for a native Turkish speaker to expand that article by translating parts of this one - for example the section about oil. And while translating they could tag problems here. Chidgk1 (talk) 15:30, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi. Indeed I am native Turkish speaker and I would love to help it out with some turkish sources as well Metuboy (talk) 22:16, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
 * OK I have tr:Türkiye'de enerji on my watchlish. Let me know if you find anything useful for this article too - for example whether Turkey made a new contract with Russia to buy gas after the old contract finished end 2021, or whether the govt will wait until the 2025 contract expires. You need my advice on the Wikipedia translation tool? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:25, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Flow of gas from Iran
Hello @103.246.36.121 - you recently added the following:

In 2022, it was announced that there is a shortage, which is bigger than any other previous shortages. This is because a lot of energy which comes from Iran cannot be supplied.

Could you possibly discuss this at Talk:Oil_and_gas_in_Turkey Chidgk1 (talk) 08:20, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Needs update for new plan
https://enerji.gov.tr//Media/Dizin/EIGM/tr/Raporlar/TUEP/T%C3%BCrkiye_Ulusal_Enerji_Plan%C4%B1.pdf Chidgk1 (talk) 16:24, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

policies source
https://shura.org.tr/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/SHURA-2023-11-Rapor-Enerji-Sektoru-icin-Politikalar.pdf

need to add once has been translated presumably in a few months time Chidgk1 (talk) 17:59, 20 December 2023 (UTC)


 * now english https://shura.org.tr/en/net-zero-2053-energy-sector-policies/ Chidgk1 (talk) 17:52, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

New source needs adding
https://carnegieeurope.eu/2024/02/28/understanding-energy-drivers-of-turkey-s-foreign-policy-pub-91733 Chidgk1 (talk) 12:56, 29 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Also check gas oil maps against its map Chidgk1 (talk) 13:02, 29 February 2024 (UTC)