Talk:Florida State University

Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2024
In the second paragraph, change the sentence "Florida State University comprises 16 separate colleges and more than 110 centers, facilities, labs, and institutes that offer more than 360 programs of study, including professional school programs." to say "17 separate colleges" - the supplied link for reference now says 17 as opposed to 16. This is presumably from the Jim Moran College of Entrepreneurship becoming a college in 2019, Dedman School of Hospitality officially becoming a college in 2021, and then the colleges of Education and Human sciences combining to become the College of Education, Health, and Human Sciences last year. Lunsel (talk) 14:23, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 23:46, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2024 (2)
Under the "Student Government" Section, there are a few changes:

1. Change the last line in the first paragraph from "The university's student government currently operates on a yearly $13.79 million budget, one of the largest student government budgets in the United States." to "The university's student government operates on an annual budget based on $12.86 per credit hour taken by students every year, which comes out to about $14 million annually. In 2024, $1,189,132 was allocated toward the Student Government for spending, which shall increase by 4% every year until 2029; the rest goes toward the Division of Student Affairs to put toward the Student Union, Campus Recreation, and Student Engagement." per https://sga.fsu.edu/executive-pdf/A&S-Fee-Allocation-MOU-02.29.24.pdf and https://sga.fsu.edu/financial/sga_financial_manual_22_23.pdf (page 8 lists the $12.86 number). I believe this change more accurately reflects the budgetary procedures of SGA. If nothing else, the link ought to be updated either to the budget for the 23-24 FY or the 24-25 FY.

2. Under the second paragraph outlining the Executive Branch, there are now seven agencies following the addition of the Jewish Student Union in 2021, and four bureaus following the abolition of quite a few (the Center for Participant Education, the Student Council for Accessibility Advocacy, and the Office of Student Sustainability). My new proposed outline (with changes bolded) is "The student government executive branch is led by the student body president and includes the student body vice President, student body treasurer, seven agencies, four bureaus, and an executive cabinet." The change from "executive secretaries within the Executive Office of the President" to "executive cabinet" is to highlight the flexibility in the names of that cabinet from year-to-year for posterity, so we don't have to choose between changing it frequently or it being out of date/inaccurate.

3. The final sentences of the final paragraph, regarding the judicial branch, shall be changed from "The chief justice may appoint a marshal and clerk. The election commission is also composed of Florida State University College of Law students and it adjudicates all student government election complaints. The commission has five members, one of whom also serves as the commission chairman." to "The chief justice may appoint a marshal and clerk. The election commission and the supervisor of elections is composed of Florida State University students and it adjudicates all student government election complaints. The commission has six members, and shall be chaired by the supervisor of elections." per https://sga.fsu.edu/statutes/statutes.pdf (page 108 regards the criteria for SOE, of which being a law student is not one of them, page 111 designates them as the chair of the commission, and pages 111-112 has the Commission selection criteria, which does not require them to be law students).

Thank you! Lunsel (talk) 14:54, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I'll another editor weigh in on this request. In my opinion, the article has way too much detail about this group and most of it should be removed from the article. ElKevbo (talk) 23:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I will go ahead and reduce this section a litte; it is overloaded with details about statutes and administrative structures .... this is not the place for that sort of thing. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 06:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with that, I figure that any information we do have ought to be up-to-date which is what this information was trying to do. Lunsel (talk) 16:09, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: The section is overloaded with too much details. Consider simplifying the proposal. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 03:04, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yep, I intend on cleaning up the section shortened via @Melchior2006 at some point to be the most pertinent and up-to-date info (the information retained is a bit arbitrary) but haven't gotten around to it yet. It shouldn't be more than a paragraph. Lunsel (talk) 13:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This section contains far too much detail for a general article on Florida State. I suggest if you want this level of information connected to the main article, please write and connect a stub.Sirberus (talk) 14:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2024
Update the endowment to "$947 million (2023)".

73.245.27.220 (talk) 18:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Do you have a link to a reliable secondary source for that information? PianoDan (talk) 16:33, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * NACUBO is *THE* preeminent source of college endowments. It's the same source used for the current endowment listed on the FSU wiki page, as well as numerous other universities on wiki.
 * https://www.nacubo.org/Research/2023/NACUBO-Commonfund-Study-of-Endowments 73.245.27.220 (talk) 17:09, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Also requesting budget to be updated to $3 billion (2024).
 * https://news.fsu.edu/news/university-news/2024/06/20/fsu-board-of-trustees-approves-3-billion-operating-budget/
 * https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/fsu-news/2024/06/21/fsu-board-of-trustees-approve-3-billion-2024-25-budget-biggest-ever/74161050007/ 73.245.27.220 (talk) 17:17, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ TheNuggeteer (talk) 11:44, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Students as cadets in Civil War – too much detail
The fact that ca. 25 (!) students "played a minor role in defending artillery pieces" in a battle is too detailed for the purposes of Wikipedia. It gets even worse when the section continues with "other reports, likely exaggerated." If they are likely exaggerated, why mention them? ‎Sirberus has gone off on a tangent here, pls reduce. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 15:26, 9 July 2024 (UTC)


 * OK, I'll take a another look...maybe some of that could be available in a reference. These are facts I've been curious about for a long time.  What I am trying to do is provide the truth, as either the story gets aggrandized and embellished or entirely minimized and ignored.  It is too good a set of facts to gloss over in my view.
 * Kindly give me a day or so to tweak it.Sirberus (talk) 17:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * OK, sounds good. It is an interesting side-line, but a bit arcane. I like your suggestion about placing it in a footnote, that's more realistic. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 17:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Maybe some of the (well, forgive me - the "good stuff") is too granular for the typical reader.Sirberus (talk) 17:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I cut out some material...please let me know what you think.Sirberus (talk) 18:27, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

"Some former cadets later received pensions" – is this a joke?
This is supposed to be relevant for an encyclopedia entry about the history of a university? -- Melchior2006 (talk) 15:29, 9 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Same explanation as above - The fact that application was made for pensions indicates there was much more than trivial service by these cadets. The photo of William Denham shows much more than a boy with a squirrel rifle.  This photo, which I dug up years ago from the state archives, says a lot about the school (at least to me).  Thanks for helping keep the article in good form.Sirberus (talk) 17:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Probably needs a GAR
After all the tremendous changes to the article and after it settles down, it should be reassessed for Good Article status. Normally, GA articles are fully developed and settled, but this hasn't been lately. Stefen Towers among the rest!  Gab • Gruntwerk 20:39, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * That's what we're in the middle of - a GAR. I don't see a GAR after a GAR helpful, but am I missing something? Sirberus (talk) 22:29, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oops, I didn't notice that. Carry on. :) And great job you're doing, by the way. Stefen Towers among the rest!   Gab • Gruntwerk 22:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * MUCH appreciated! It's Friday!  You, too. Sirberus (talk) 22:45, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

File Upload Needed for Civil Rights section
This photo is perfect for the Civil Rights section: https://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/32312 Can someone familiar with the process upload this to Commons? Thanks! Sirberus (talk) 10:57, 20 July 2024 (UTC)