Talk:GarageBand

Untitled
There's a review of GarageBand that might be able to be mentioned in this article.

&mdash;Vespristiano 20:16, 2004 Jan 17 (UTC)

A string of reference links isn't an article, particularly when they don't say anything one couldn't just write. better writing, more details about the software and that last sentence verges on meaningless (references or no). I'll come back to this later - David Gerard 19:47, Jan 20, 2004 (UTC)

From the article:
 * Version 2 was announced at the (2005) Macworld Conference & Expo on January 11, 2005. Major new features included the abilities to view and edit music in Musical Notation form, to record up to 8 tracks at once, and also to fix timing and Pitch of recordings.  It shipped, as announced, around 22 January, 2004.

What?? Uttaddmb 04:09, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

My comment on Garageband
You can change the tempo and pitch of the music... where it says the tempo (120 default, next to the BPM) you can click on the small # and move the slider up and down, if you raise the bar, the music speeds up, thus you have raised the tempo. Changing the pitch is harder to explain, so fool around with the options in each individual track...

Tempo and key signature
The article says that key signature and tempo cannot be changed within a song. This is not true; you need to click the Track Info button (marked with an ), click on Master Track, and the options for key and tempo will be there. Mattderojas 00:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

What it means is that it cannot start at one tempo/key and become another as the song progresses, i.e. you can do it in A, then change your mind and put it in B, but you can't have it change to this midsong. Powrtoch 05:58, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Anyway, I took out the blip about only being able to import entire songs from a CD, as I personally have imported songs stored on my hard drive. Powrtoch 05:58, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

September 2006 (UTC)

Garage Band for PC
Is there anything like this software for PC users.

Not to my knowledge and the Apple website describes it as unique.

P.S. if there WAS anything like that for PC's it wold be awfully expensive.Binglebongle2000 19:15, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Someone should seriously consider making an equivalent for the PC - I'm sure they'd make loads of money. --Quinn 22:21, 10 October 2007 (CDT)


 * Even if there isn't anything absolutely identical, is there a way for GarageBand users to export tracks (such as the behavior of a particular instrument, whose output is mapped or plotted against time and volume) individually, for use or detailed examination by PC users?198.177.27.20 (talk) 09:41, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * There are A LOT of programs like Garageband for PC: Sony Acid, Cubase, Sonar, Reason, FL Studio, Mixcraft, Pro Tools and Ableton are some. Salamibears58 (talk) 01:42, 23 August 2011 (UTC)Salamibears58
 * Attack of the uninformed apple fanboys 80.128.94.12 (talk) 19:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Cakewalk is a MIDI sequencer that exists for DOS users, as well as there being a souped up version of it for WIndows users.  But since I don't have a PC to speak of, and am otherwise totally unfamiliar with it, I can't speak for it.  To use Cakewalk, I think you are supposed to get some MIDI synthesizers, program them by loading in sound samples, and then use the CAL programming language to make sure the music samples are loaded (or faded) at the right times.   216.99.198.50 (talk) 08:51, 25 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I have yet to try it, but while searching for a PC equivalent, I found Mixcraft. Unfortunately it costs. Brimstorch (talk) 13:22, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

There are literally dozens of programs like this for PC. My personal favorite is FL Studio. There is Reason, Acid Pro, and so many others. Just look up DAW - digital audio workstation here. The program may be unique to Mac, but certainly not in the entire realm of computing. 161.165.196.84 (talk) 22:27, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It's not unique in that it's a digital audio workstation, it's unique in the way it works - it's quite possibly the easiest-to-use digital audio workstation and probably the best free one you can get. There are numerous other mac DAWs, including Logic Express/Studio, Acid Pro, Pro Tools, Reason, Cakewalk, etc. (and Fruity Loops is currently being ported to mac afaik) Hanii (talk) 11:43, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Under "External links", there currently is this here:


 * "GarageBand alternative for Windows operating System"

Is that legit, or did someone smuggle in a scam site or a site linking to a scame site (http://raresoftware.org/garageband-6-0-5-for-windows/), respectively?---178.194.26.168 (talk) 15:56, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Guess I found the answer (someone please confirm the accuracy of the following):


 * "....is a scam site with an unusually sophisticated approach. They claim to offer various unique software programs with cool capabilities, like a tool for stripping vocals from songs, or one for saving Google Maps maps for offline use. They even have YouTube videos supposedly demonstrating the programs in action, full of positive (fake) comments."


 * If you go to download a program, it sends you to a sketchy "complete a survey to download" site such as CleanFiles or Goldshare that pays the referrer (Raresoftware, in this case) for each completed survey. Most of the offered surveys are total garbage -- even the simple "enter a valid email to complete" ones fail to trigger the download and instead redirect you down an endless rabbit hole of spam "surveys" that ask for increasingly personal information or to download dangerous software. But no biggie -- if they make their lunch money from newbs who don't know how to safely navigate these spammy surveys, then so be it.


 * Carefully avoiding anything that required real personal information, I was able to get one of these "offers" to work exactly once -- a rare legitimate one, from TrackIf, that truly needed only an account registration to work instead of my credit card or cell phone number. But downloading the program I was originally after, I just got more run-around.


 * Running the downloaded .exe (in a secure sandbox) pops an alert claiming it requires a certain DLL file to function. And does the download folder include this tiny, 1.13 kilobyte file that's supposedly necessary for the program to function? Nope. Just an equal-sized "fix dll error" text file... with links you back to CleanFiles and Goldshare in order to download it. Naturally, neither of these sites actually lets you download the file.


 * Long story short, Raresoftware.org


 * creates fake, too-good-to-be-true software complete with faked "proof" videos and fake comments, then try to trick users into filling out BS "surveys" to download it -- because they get payed for each successfully completed survey. And even if you find the rare survey that's actually reasonable and doesn't try to get its hands on your info or make you buy something, they send you an intentionally crippled program that won't function unless you fill out even more surveys. (And if you actually could acquire the DLL, it would almost certainly not work as advertised even then.)


 * Raresoftware.org


 * is a scam and its programs are all fake. That was pretty apparent when they first sent me to a survey-to-download site -- in my morbid curiosity to explore their scam, I'm almost impressed how far they carry it. Don't waste your time on them (or on CleanFiles, or on Goldshare). "<


 * (http://www.gutefrage.net/frage/kennt-jemand-die-seite-raresoftwareorg-und-wenn-ja-ist-diese-legal)
 * ---178.194.26.168 (talk) 16:52, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Reorganization
I have reorganized the article, adding section headings and moving content araound to better reflect the structure. Very little content was changed/added/deleted; what was was minor. I hope this is an improvement. Baccyak4H 16:59, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

History
Was GarageBand going to be a Emagic release prior to acquisition by Apple, or was it developed specifically for iLife. And is Emagic still an entity, now owned by Apple, or has Apple completely taken over Logic/Garageband coding?

Just out of curiosity, is there a program similar to GarageBand for Linux?


 * Not exactly the same (the fact that you can only use certain precreated instrument sounds in GarageBand, instead of being able to import them from any source, is a direct result of it being proprietary, corporate-controlled software), but there are plenty of DAWs, MIDI sequencers, and effects plugins available free for Linux; however, they, unlike GarageBand, typically require at least a 2nd-grade education and more than a couple of mouse-clicks to set up.

--Badmuthahubbard (talk) 11:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Please Respond
Is it legal to sell music you produced on GarageBand? What if you used prerecorded loops? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.125.121.230 (talk) 22:56, 28 February 2007 (UTC).

I think...but probably not without Apple's consent and it would probably get sold on iTunes. You can publish podcasts that you make with GarageBand on iTunes free of charge, however.Binglebongle2000 19:13, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I know now. After you make a song you can click "submit to iTunes". But I don't know that much more about it. Binglebongle2000 13:05, 26 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Have a look at the End User Licensing Agreement for the program. My guess is that if you acquired the program *legally*, all the samples and loops are royalty-free: you payed for the software and the loops/instruments/samples, so you can sell it without any further permission or payment to Apple.
 * This is not legal advice though- please do consult the EULA or ask an Apple rep if you can't parse the legalese. -Fadookie Talk 21:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * You might be able to avoid a lot of heartbreak and wasted time by re-recording the analog audio output with a nice shotgun microphone and a dedicated recorder like those from a famous audio recorder manufacturer or another famous audio recorder manufacturer.   That way there is no practical way of tracing the music back to your GarageBand program.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.99.198.50 (talk) 09:03, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Notable users?
I think I saw Goldfrapp using it on a video on their website. -Anthony- 01:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I know that Fort Minor's song 'Believe Me' uses a loop from garageband. I would also like to know what happened to the Notable Users section...--RremundO (talk) 00:18, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

The drums from Umbrella are on GarageBand. Did it say in the video what song Goldfrapp was making? MatthewWaller (talk) 21:14, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Logic Express Error
The page on GarageBand says that Logic Express - The "light" version of Logic Pro, intermediate in features between GarageBand and Logic Pro.

This is not correct. Logic Express is the same program as Logic Pro with some of the features turned off or missing.


 * ..and how is that not then the "light" version, with less features? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.151.65.94 (talk) 22:27, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure of the best way to say this. Robert Elliott 19:33, 2 June 2007 (UTC)


 * True, but I think Logic Express (like Final Cut Express and others) is supposed to be the 'prosumer' version of the professional software. A step up in power and in price from the consumer products such as Garage Band and iMovie, but lacking features that a working professional would want and would be willing to pay extra for.
 * -Fadookie Talk 21:11, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * GarageBand3 has left/right buttons (knobs) for controlling the putative left/right stereo output of each instrument (i.e., "track" in Apple parlance) given life, but is there a way for composers to select a mix in such a way that the output of each instrument is destined for one of four different audio outs? If it is in the docs, I must have missed it.198.177.27.30 (talk) 04:46, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Jam Packs edit
I'm removing the second half of a sentence in this section There was also another GarageBand Jam Pack 1 that was discontinued early on; the instruments were probably put into the other Jam Packs.

The part of the sentence after the semicolon is speculative and I doubt there would be any source stating that certain instruments were moved to other Packs. Rajrajmarley 00:29, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Copyright status of loops/samples?
I'd personally love to know if GarageBand's loops and samples are restricted in some manner, or royalty free, as many restrictions would make the inbuilt samples pretty much useless for commercial music... Although, many people (including people on this talk page) have mentioned "(Notable Musician) uses a GarageBand loop". Xmoogle (talk) 00:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Notable Users
Fall out boy creat song songs on it

Fort Minor produced their whole album on it aswell, this should be added to the wiki

Notable Users! 202.156.141.155 (talk) 00:20, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Windows equivalent?
Is there any existing Windows equivalent to GarageBand? 16:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

There are a lot. Check out Digital audio editor for a list of specific programs. My personal favorite is FL Studio. Acid Pro is less flexible and probably more like GarageBand. Also check out Multitrack_recording and Digital audio workstation. 161.165.196.84 (talk) 22:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Woodgrain
No one has mentioned woodgrain in the GUI yet, or discussed the GUI at all really yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.129.33.32 (talk) 03:22, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Only available with iLife?
I think this is misleading. Currently, yes, it is true, but previously it was included software, wasn't it? - Dudesleeper / Talk  10:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The only way the latest version has been available has always been as part of iLife (and, by extension, free with mac hardware purchases) - although older versions of certain iLife applications has become downloadable for free from apple's website. Hanii (talk) 11:49, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Audio Sample rate
Garageband records and exports audio with the sample rate of 44.1khz, and it can't be changed. Bit depth can be changed from 16 bit to 24 bits, though. This needs to be mentioned in the audio section.

https://support.apple.com/kb/ph1873?locale=en_US Composerananth (talk) 08:02, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

incompatibilities between GarageBand for Mac and GarageBand for iOS
I am new to GarageBand, having just recently downloaded it to my iPad Mini. I am very happy with it, except for one huge problem -- I cannot collaborate with my friend who uses GarageBand on a Mac. He can import GB files I create on iOS, but I cannot import GB files he creates on his Mac. I have been googling the issue, and it appears that GB *used* to be able to share files between Mac and iOS, but with the latest versions, that functionality has been disabled? Is this intentional on Apple's part -- I can imagine they got worried about iPad sales cannibalizing MacBook sales -- or are there some technical aspects that drove this decision? Why wouldn't Apple have a function in GB for Mac to save a project in "iOS format" for sharing with iPad users? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.3.37.79 (talk) 14:03, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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Link edit
It appears I can't use this link: https://www.apple.com/ios/garageband/ to replace the iOS section's website URL (currently the same as Mac). Could I have this implemented please? Coolcam6578 (talk) 14:51, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Advertisement
I've added the top notice Advertisement to the article, as it contains a number of puffery terms, including, but not limited to, "myriad bug fixes", "realistic sampled instruments", "wide array" of sound creation, "popular hardware", "extensive array of pre-made audio loops to choose from", "large collection of plug-ins and sounds". In general, the tone of the article seems very promotional, and it needs toning down. Asav | Talk 07:07, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Cultural impact section
Could be added. Relevant source: https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/features/apple-garageband-modern-music-784257/ DFlhb (talk) 18:42, 29 May 2023 (UTC)