Talk:Give me the man and I will give you the case against him

Attributed also to Beria?
I've started this article with attribution to Vyshinsky, but I am finding quite a few attributions to Beria now. For example, Here (and some others cited in the article). I wonder if this is not the case of obliteration by incorporation, in the process of moving from someone not very famopus (Vyshinsky) to more famous (Beria), possibly ending in attribution to Stalin (already found one here). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:07, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Article's name and scope
Show me the man and I'll show you the crime might be the most popular version of this saying in English? Move? Also, I wonder if this should be framed as a "Polish saying", the concept seems more universal. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:43, 15 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The phrase in Russian is almost certainly misattributed to Beria and Vyshinsky. According to memoirs by Nadezhda Mandelstam (as cited here in Russian, this is a book, a "Glossary of quotations" in Russian, probably an RS per se), it was widely used in the Soviet OGPU already in 1920s; who invented it in Russian is apparently not known. But I can not quickly check the actual reference in her book. My very best wishes (talk) 22:09, 16 April 2023 (UTC)