Talk:Greenford branch line

"On the third stroke …"
It may well be that some Peace has descended on this small corner of Wikipedia so I will attempt once more to see fixed that part of the article that I feel dear about, namely accurate citations which I believe are the cornerstone of an objective encyclopaedia.

The necessary edits to the reader are not great – a missing author – an old edition – a new ISBN, but I feel they are significant in the continued development of this page down in that less fashionable end – the References.

There have been differences of approach leading to conflict, and those savvy enough will be able to trace the flow, but the above exchange details the "first stroke".

As a result I must recuse myself from further edits in this regard in the short term. May I please therefore ask – using templates; or free-text – that someone fixes these references …

Status as of 26 October…


 * , 654 pp.
 * , 96 pp.
 * , 96 pp.

Suggested replacement with direct change in bold …


 * Conolly, W.P. (1997) Pre-Grouping Atlas and Gazeteer, 5th Ed., Shepperton : Ian Allan, ISBN 0-7110-0320-3
 * MacDermot, E.T. [1931] (1964) History of the Great Western Railway: Vol. 2, 1863-1921, London : Ian Allan, ISBN 0-7110-0412-9
 * Mitchell V. and Smith, K. (2000) Branch Lines of West London, Midhurst : Middleton Press, ISBN 1-901706-50-8
 * Network Rail (2007)  Current Timetables: Electronic National Rail Timetable (eNRT), webpage accessed 20 October 2007

I hope that others might help advance this article…

Many thanks (from the unfashionable end), Oxonhutch 21:00, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * It has been some time now, without comment regarding these references. Failing adverse opinion, I would like to rectify them within the next few days. Oxonhutch 21:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Routemap
The diagram now in place is not ideal, but the best I can do without making Greenford station absurdly wide. The GW line has a connection to the Greenford Branch but no station: the first station on both GW and Underground is South Ruislip. The branch actually passes under the out(West Ruislip) bound Central Line then rises to a bay platform between the island platforms of the underground. I'll try to fiddle a way of showing this without reorting to BS5. Britmax 16:50, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Connections: I believe TfL are building new platforms that will enable connections to the Piccadilly Line at Park Royal, where the Central and Piccadilly Lines cross. This is not far from Greenford and will be a significant additional access point. I'll check it. Britmax 17:01, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


 * All the junctions are 'wrong' to some extent. Heading towards Greenford, a single-track curve heads off towards the GWR line (eastbound) as the Greenford branch curves west. The branch then splits, with one line continuing onto the westbound GW line, and the other rising to the station. The 'triangle' junction is on the south side of the LT lines, not the north, as shown. There's nothing wrong with BS5, but I'm not sure that even that would do justice to it - perhaps a separate 'close-up' for Greenford, bearing in mind that the eastbound and westbound Central line are separated?


 * However, the junction at the other end is wrong too. There is a triangle junction off the mainline, which continues straight west. The current arrangement does not show the branchline very clearly at all, and suggests that the GW mainline leaves the branchline via a triangular junction!


 * Maybe two maps would be in order: one to show the relationship between Greenford station and Paddington, and one just showing the length of line between the two junctions? (which is more important for this article).


 * The article is also missing the fact that the original station was on the GW line, and hence the map should show a closed station there.
 * EdJogg 19:22, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

I think that the triangular junction under the GW line with its spur leading up into the bay platform between the LT Central Line platforms make the layout here beyond the ability of the diagrams. To show the platforms without silly width using a fixed modular system doesn't work. I'll look at my copy of RVJ Butt to try to confirm the GW platform at Greenford (not doubting you, I read somewhere that a local service ran from Paddington, and this line parallels the Central Line from North Acton, but, you know, "sourced"). Then I'll leave the rest of the diagram as it is. Britmax 08:14, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * May I refer you to the following book which details the features you mention, including the steam railmotor service between Greenford and Oak Lane Halt which was discontinued with the opening of the Central Line extension:
 * Mitchell, V. and Smith, K. (2002) Paddington to Princes Risborough, including the Uxbridge High Street, Western Main Lines series, Midhurst : Middleton Press, ISBN 1-901706-81-8
 * Plates 15 through 43 refer and maps 16 and 22 show past and present layouts. Oxonhutch 08:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Revert of 15/01/2010
Map had been zapped and a pretty infobox added. It looks (at bedtime) as though the same editor touched many railway articles in the same session. An examination is needed--SilasW (talk) 22:40, 15 January 2010 (UTC)


 * but isn't it sufficient to mark the map as not collapsed -- we never want it collapsed anyway
 * I've re-instated it. -- EdJogg (talk) 02:44, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Infobox width
I promised EdJogg that I'd find out why had an overwide infobox, with the image caption not wrapping - the answer is that the presence of auto in the infobox makes it as wide as is necessary in order for wrapping to be avoided. EdJogg's was to introduce a hard line break into the caption; alternatively he could have removed the auto which would have forced the width to 25em. Which is preferred? -- Red rose64 (talk) 17:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I dunno if you were expecting a response from me or someone else, but having just looked at, the first line of the documentation describes the box_width parameter with this note:
 * Width of infobox, default: 25em; Note: use auto for automatic width (nb long image captions will not wrap if |box_width=auto is specified)
 * Since it also says 'no' in the 'required' column, it may be simplest to just take it off 'auto'.
 * However, I don't see any need to remove the hard break... -- EdJogg (talk) 17:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I was hoping for a response from you yes, but others may be interested. The parenthesis in the documentation "(nb long image captions will not wrap if auto is specified)" was added by myself just before I started this thread. -- Red rose64 (talk) 17:56, 26 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Ho-hum! I'm a little surprised the width is not fixed, really. I'll have to look out for these in the future because there are a number of infoboxes which are too narrow and cause the lines to wrap excessively.
 * This article looks OK at the moment, so I guess you'll need to use your judgement. -- EdJogg (talk) 01:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

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Service frequency
I'm surprised there's no mention of the service frequency on the line. 87.75.117.183 (talk) 04:08, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

South Ruislip-West Ruislip service
Is this relevant - or is there a better link? Jackiespeel (talk) 18:27, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * If there's something official (i.e., Network Rail WTT/NRTs), then this should be used instead. This looks very much WP:UGC or WP:SPS. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 19:10, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Flagging it up so that WP-railway persons can chase it up further. Jackiespeel (talk) 14:07, 26 November 2022 (UTC)