Talk:Lady Louise Windsor

Requested move 18 September 2022

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move. (closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 17:39, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Lady Louise Windsor → Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor – per consistency with her first cousins-once removed Archie Mountbatten-Windsor and Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor. In addition, the line of succession uses Mountbatten-Windsor as her name. Even sources like People refer to her as Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor. cookie monster  755  04:11, 18 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Lady Louise - would be my choice, to match her with her brother James, Viscount Severn. -- GoodDay (talk) 04:15, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support per nomination. All WP:RELIABLESOURCES confirm that Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor is indeed the proper and official full naming style for subject. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:04, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Disagree. Elsewhere on the Royal Website, she is only referred to as Lady Louise Windsor, a few examples are her first official photos and her christening . Most news sources, online, print and televised only tend to say Lady Louise Windsor as well such as BBC, Express, Hello and Independent. People also refer to her as Lady Louise Windsor . The Royal Family tribute to Prince Philip also only credits her as Lady Louise Windsor. I feel Lady Louise Windsor is better for WP:COMMONNAME. TopGiza (talk) 22:05, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Using that standard, main title headers of English Wikipedia articles delineating various royals would be reduced to their WP:COMMONNAME redirects — Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon → Princess Margaret; Archie Mountbatten-Windsor → Prince Archie; Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor → Princess Lilibet; David Armstrong-Jones, 2nd Earl of Snowdon → David Armstrong-Jones; Alexander Windsor, Earl of Ulster → Alexander Windsor, etc. The full names are listed in Wikipedia's own entry — Succession to the British throne. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:27, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * We have Prince Harry even though his real name is Prince Henry. It isn’t common name for Prince Archie or Princess Lilibet, they have never been called by their titles, they’re using their common name. For the likes of Princess Margaret, having their titles saves on large disambiguation pages. TopGiza (talk) 00:52, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Since Lady Louise Windsor, rather than Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor, is posited as subject's WP:COMMONNAME, then of course the unrecognizable "Prince Henry" as a name for Prince Harry wouldn't even enter into the discussion of common names. User:GoodDay proposes above that Lady Louise, which still redirects to her, is sufficient. There is no disambiguation problem with Princess Margaret since the short form likewise redirects to her. As for Archie and Lilibet, Archie Windsor and Lilibet Windsor would then suffice, same as for Lady Louise Windsor. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:51, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * We don’t know what names the children of Prince Harry will commonly use as yet. They are ages 3 and 1. Presumably it will be just Windsor, given its usage by the rest of the family. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 12:56, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia's own article — Succession to the British throne — as well as all other published succession lists, depict little Archie's and little Lilibet's names via those names' full forms — Archie Mountbatten-Windsor and Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor — as already indicated in the nomination. Likewise, Lady Louise's name appears in all succession lists as Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor, again per nomination. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:30, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The proposer lists this for a name change because of what the line of succession page on The Royal Family site lists her as, by that standard, we would have to rename the following pages too;
 * Princess Beatrice to Princess Beatrice, Mrs. Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi
 * Princess Eugenie to Princess Eugenie, Mrs. Jack Brooksbank
 * James, Viscount Severn to Viscount Severn
 * Anne, Princess Royal to The Princess Royal
 * Zara Tindall to Mrs. Michael Tindall
 * The proposer has also supported that The Earl of Wessex should be renamed to The Earl of Wessex and Forfar, however his name on the official Succession page is simply The Earl of Wessex, which would be contradictory.
 * The proposer argues People magazine list her as Mountbatten-Windsor, however People list her as Lady Louise Windsor on more occasions. The following all list her as Lady Louise Windsor; . Only one lists her as Mountbatten-Windsor; . I still believe her correct title is simply Lady Louise Windsor. TopGiza (talk) 20:32, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * All main title headers of English Wikipedia articles delineating the 62 names in line to the throne, should follow the forms indicated in the well-researched and strongly-sourced Wikipedia entry — Succession to the British throne — where Lady Louise is listed as Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:30, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * But 1. The Wikipedia titles don’t match the Royal Family source, and 2. Even some of the Wikipedia articles have a different page name from the name on that succession list. The Wikipedia succession list is not a source. TopGiza (talk) 01:44, 20 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Disagree. Lady Louise Windsor is the common name. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 03:40, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The common name is Princess Diana, but it's at Diana, Princess of Wales. The common name is Camilla Parker Bowles, but we have it at Camilla, Queen Consort. The common name is Meghan Markle, but we have it at Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. The common name is Kate Middleton, but we have it at Catherine, Princess of Wales. Sometimes WP:COMMONNAME does not work the rule should be ignored.  cookie monster   755  07:28, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Given its usage by the person herself as well as its common usage, Lady Louise Windsor is most appropriate. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 12:58, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I would very much dispute that their common names are Princess Diana, Camilla Parker Bowles, Meghan Markle or Kate Middleton. In the tabloids and among the ignorant, maybe, but not in reliable media sources. "Common name" doesn't mean "common name used by some bloke down the pub"! It means "common name in reliable sources". -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Support per nom and usage in WP:RELIABLESOURCES. Richiepip (talk) 19:22, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. Almost always referred to as Lady Louise Windsor in reliable media sources, including the BBC and every major British newspaper and broadcaster. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:29, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Lady Louise of Edinburgh?
Wouldn’t she become Lady Louise of Edinburgh? Lady Meg (talk) 10:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)


 * No, daughters of dukes, even of royal dukes, are simply Lady FirstName LastName. See Lady Helen Taylor or Lady Davina Windsor. Piratesswoop (talk) 12:24, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I think she's asking if Louise should now be Lady Louise Edinburgh instead of Lady Louise Windsor. Tinmanic (talk) 16:36, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Windsor (or Mountbatten-Windsor in its full form) is her surname, and that is not affected by whether her father's title is Earl of Wessex or now something else. Sbishop (talk) 17:00, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, yes, I meant to include that Edinburgh is her father's title, not her last name. Some British royal kids may use their dad's title designation as their last name for school, so if she did, it would be as Louise Edinburgh, but as Louise doesn't use her royal title, she remains Lady Louise Windsor. Piratesswoop (talk) 03:39, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Right. As William and Harry were known by their father’s title designation. William and Harry Wales. Their titles when born were Prince [X] of Wales, like the kids now. Just thought she might take on the Edinburgh “surname” like her cousins did with Wales. Been awhile since a Royal has been upgraded to a Dukedom while already having children. She should technically be “HRH Princess Louise of Edinburgh”, but alas that has not come to pass. Thanks! Lady Meg (talk) 07:26, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Lady Helen Taylor and Lady Davina Windsor are great-granddaughters of a monarch though. I’m aware that other non Royal Dukes children don’t have “of [X]” either. Just thought it was common practice—like Prince Michael of Kent or Prince William of Gloucester. Guess I’m missing the point that she doesn’t use the Princess title so she wouldn’t automatically become “Princes Louise of Edinburgh”. Is this the first time that a daughter of a Duke, that happens to be the son of a monarch, has refused her titles? Does that make sense? I spend a lot of time trying to get these things right. Thanks! Lady Meg (talk) 07:55, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
 * No it's not the first time. See Princess Patricia of Connaught who became Lady Patricia Ramsay. Keivan.f  Talk 21:05, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Lake
Who named the lake after her? The article says it was Manitoba's Lieutenant Governor but the source says it was Manitoba's premier (Gary Doer). --  Cosmic6811  🍁 ( T ·  C ) 03:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The source doesn't explicitly say who named the lakes. It says Doer gave their father a couple of parchment scrolls announcing the names, but it doesn't actually say who signed the parchments or whose decision it was. Celia Homeford (talk) 14:21, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 3 June 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 09:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Lady Louise Windsor → Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor – "Mountbatten-Windsor" is her surname, not "Windsor". This was also the name of Prince Harry's children before they became Prince and Princess. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:00, 3 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Note: I've began a similar RM on James, Earl of Wessex to add the surname to his title for consistancy. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:01, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've taken the liberty of correcting the spelling from Lousie to Louise. Rosbif73 (talk) 07:50, 4 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:16, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: I suspect WP:NAMECHANGES comes into play here, and certainly there are plenty of recent reliable sources using "Mountbatten-Windsor". FWIW, the Palace now refers to her as "Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor", though I'm not sure when this took effect and of course COMMONNAME trumps OFFICIALNAME. If someone can pin down the change, we could make a more informed decision... Rosbif73 (talk) 15:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose: After doing a bit of digging on the Wayback machine, the Palace's succession page changed from "Lady Louise Windsor" to "Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor" some time between May 2010 and December 2010, but this change in official usage has not been systematically followed by reliable sources. Even looking at recent sources, plain "Windsor" is still common. Accordingly, I retract my suggestion that NAMECHANGES comes into play, and now oppose per COMMONNAME. Rosbif73 (talk) 08:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.