User talk:Extraordinary Writ

By far the funniest and most clever Wikipedia page I randomly stumbled on. Kudos. The fish genuinely made me laugh out loud — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumtimz I B Learnin (talk • contribs) 07:04, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Close at Nir Oz attack
Hello, I believe that there was no clear consensus for this move. Would you be willing to elaborate on how you came to this result? FortunateSons (talk) 23:59, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * , I don't think I have much to add to what I said in the closure: I gave greater weight to !votes that engaged with the sources and relevant policies and guidelines than those that offered only personal opinions about the appropriate descriptor. The argument that "massacre" is not "the common name" used "in a significant majority of English-language sources" was not seriously rebutted by opposers. Happy to answer any specific questions you might have, and you're always welcome to have the close reviewed at WP:MR. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:51, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I appreciate it, thank you. FortunateSons (talk) 08:10, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Can I ask you to reconsider this as well – you say that the claim was "not seriously rebutted", but a long list of sources using the term 'massacre' was provided. I personally didn't feel the need strongly rebut the move request rationale as this list was already provided before I !voted, and I didn't think for a moment that people would seriously support the notion that the deliberate killing of dozens of civilians should not be described a massacre, nor that an admin would consider closing the debate in such a manner. The fact that the outcome has gone that way reflects incredibly poorly on Wikipedia's credibility as a neutral source on the subject area IMO.
 * What Hamas' Meticulous Massacre Plan for Kibbutz Nir Oz Looked Like
 * Reeling from Hamas’ massacre, a kibbutz pleads for the return of hostages
 * Nir Oz Wasn't a Battle, It Was a Systematic Massacre
 * 'Nothing will ever be the same,' Nir Oz massacre survivors tell i24NEWS
 * Hamas Massacre At Israel's Nir Oz Kibbutz
 * ‘A Day of Horror:’ Kibbutz Massacre Survivors Recount Hamas Attack
 * Al Jazeera 'reporter' who filmed massacre in Nir Oz loses leg after drone attack in Rafah
 * ‘How do you tell your child her grandparents were slaughtered?’ Israeli father describes kibbutz massacre
 * 'I have to hope the IDF will bring my family home' says survivor of Nir Oz massacre
 * Red stickers for killed, black for kidnapped: Bearing witness to the massacre at Kibbutz Nir Oz
 * Members of Kibbutz Nir Oz come to grips with massacre
 * He survived the massacre; his photos tell a story of a kibbutz that is no more
 * In tight-knit community of Nir Oz, survivors of the massacre mourn those lost and Hamas releases two hostages abducted during brutal massacre on Kibbutz Nir Oz earlier in Octobera way of life that may never return
 * Hamas releases two hostages abducted during brutal massacre on Kibbutz Nir Oz earlier in October
 * Argentina's Javier Milei condemns Hamas on visit to Oct. 7 massacre site
 * Last-minute plans save SA olah from massacre

Number  5  7  23:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)


 * That's a bit of re-litigation, no? In any case,, what would you say is the ratio of usage of "attack" vs "massacre"? Even if it 1:1, then we should be choosing the more neutral name, as policy requires there be "a significant majority" before we can use a name with value judgement.VR (Please ping on reply) 23:23, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * "people would seriously support the notion that the deliberate killing of dozens of civilians should not be described a massacre". As I argued in the RM, "attack" doesn't rule out the deliberate killing of civilians, for example, see September 11 attacks, 2008 Mumbai attacks etc.VR (Please ping on reply) 23:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Massacre is a neutral description for what happened in Nir Oz, just as it is for events like the Dunblane massacre. Using 'attack', a word that does not necessity imply any deaths (the Danish prime minister was just attacked by somemone), is inappropriate. Number   5  7  23:31, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It wasn't contested in the RM that "massacre" ("indiscriminate and brutal slaughter") is a term that passes judgment, and indeed it appears in one of the examples at WP:NPOV. Policy is not to use such a term unless it's "the common name" used "in a significant majority of English-language sources". I certainly noticed FortunateSons's list of sources using "massacre", but that kind of list doesn't rebut the supporters' argument that such sources don't amount to a significant majority. Of course I understand why the outcome is contentious, but as a closer the best way I can enhance "Wikipedia's credibility as a neutral source" is to apply policy consistently and as written, which is what I tried to do here. If you don't think I've been successful, you're welcome to start an MR. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:51, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Mail from me
Hi, EW. I hope that you're well; I've sent you an email. Best wishes, Sdrqaz (talk) 23:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks—will think about it. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:23, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I've sent you an email . Sdrqaz (talk) 00:09, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * And now dealt with. (Apologies for the delay on my end.) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:37, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from AFrogThatExist on Flexcar (14:43, 16 June 2024)
This article definitely feels like an advertisement, but I can't pinpoint what exactly makes me feel that way, do you think you could point me in the right direction? --AFrogThatExist (talk) 14:43, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi ! This article had a lot of promotional language when it was first flagged as an advertisement, but most of the problematic content has already been removed, so that's why you're not seeing any obvious issues. I think the main reason the article might still seem "off" is that it's written from the perspective of the company: it tells you what Flexcar "started", "changed", "announced", etc., but there's not much in the way of outside analysis telling you what others thought about the company. The best way to fix this problem would be to find additional news articles, books, etc. that talk about Flexcar (beyond the two sources currently cited) and incorporate them into the article. But this is kind of an advanced task, so it's absolutely fine if you want to just move on and look for an article that needs your help more urgently. Here's a list of all the articles that were recently tagged as advertisements, and here are some that just need to be rewritten in places—maybe something there takes your fancy? Hope this helps, and let me know if you have any other questions! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the in-depth reply, I'll check out the list you mentioned! AFrogThatExist (talk) 08:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Kbbeatz (16:46, 18 June 2024)
Hello --Kbbeatz (talk) 16:46, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello ! Let me know if you have any questions about editing Wikipedia. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:35, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hey, I did have a question about others editing a page. When I edit a page and provide a reference/source that is reliable, it keeps getting removed by editors even though I’ve backed it up.
 * Recently, I edited a football mangers page to say they signed to a new club and proving a reliable source but it kept getting removing even though the manager even announced it. Is there any way to stop this or report others who do unnecessary editing and just troll? Kbbeatz (talk) 00:08, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi . You mention providing reliable references/sources, but I'm not seeing any in your edits...that's probably part of the problem. If you're using the mobile view, the easiest way to cite a source is to 1) click the edit button, 2) click the pencil menu that appears, 3) choose "visual editing", and 4) click the citation button, which looks like a quotation mark: [[File:OOjs UI icon quotes-ltr.svg]]. It will then walk you through the process of adding information about your source. If these steps don't make sense, let me know what you see instead and I can try to help. Citing sources is very important, and it makes it less likely that your edit will be undone.
 * There are also a couple things to be aware of about sports articles. Information is often removed when it hasn't been officially confirmed; rumors and press speculation aren't enough. That's why your edit adding Graham Potter a couple days ago was undone. Sometimes there can also be issues when a change has been announced but hasn't actually taken effect yet, and if there's a disagreement you can click on the "talk" button to start a conversation about the edit. But once Steve Cooper was appointed, adding his name was fair game, and it looks like all the articles currently include it. Hope this helps: if there's anything I can provide more clarification on, just let me know. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:37, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Legendarycool (15:20, 22 June 2024)
Hello Extraordinary Writ what do you do about IP vandalism. --Legendarycool (talk) 15:20, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi . If someone is vandalizing Wikipedia (defined as deliberately trying to make things worse, you should undo the edit and write a warning on the user's talk page. (To find someone's talk page, click on the article's "view history" button and look for the "talk" button next to the vandal's name.) If the user continues vandalizing even after an appropriate number of warnings, go to this page and follow the instructions to make a report for administrators. Let me know if you have any other questions. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:15, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from YannGuidon (01:18, 23 June 2024)
Hello ! a semi-noob question...

I have been fortunate enough to take pictures of an unreleased microprocessor prototype and I would like to add one picture on the "General information" sidebar of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libre-SOC I have already added one picture at a relevant place (I think, check if it is "right"), but most other CPU pages (like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_i960 ) have a picture of an individual chip. I have uploaded 2 more pictures at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/YannGuidon I haven't found the right syntax yet to add to the form.

Thank you ! --YannGuidon (talk) 01:18, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi . Thanks for uploading these images! To add a picture to the sidebar ("infobox"), go to the Libre-SOC article and click edit. Click the pencil and choose "visual editing" if you're not already in that mode. Click on the sidebar itself and click the "edit" button that pops up. Now, copy and paste the full name of the file you want to use into the "image" field. You can also put something in the "caption" field, but you can leave the "image_size" field blank. Click "apply changes", check that everything looks right, and click "publish changes" when you're done.
 * The image you already added looks good! It's a bit large, though: the default width is 220px, but yours is at 400px. I'd suggest restoring the default, which you can do by clicking "edit", clicking on the image itself, clicking "edit", clicking "advanced", and choosing "default". (Readers can always enlarge the image themselves if they want.) You're welcome to experiment, though. Here's some more information about image size (and other things) if you're interested in knowing more. Let me know if you have any other questions! Extraordinary Writ (talk) 09:06, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you ! I have finally found the right "link" format. Feel free to point to other clumsiness. YannGuidon (talk) 12:36, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Bori (A dried lentil paste balls)
Bori is a term used in Bengali language to refer to dried balls made out of lentils. These dried lentil balls are used as a delicacy in popular bengali foods like shukto (a mix veggie curry made in a milk, mustard poppy seed gravy) Dr. DB1mini (talk) 11:29, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * , do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:01, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

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"....cheesy award....."? Buster Seven   Talk  (UTC) 12:15, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry! :) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:49, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I will admit it is one of the more eclectic nominations in a long time. I liked the "real people" reminder. Thanks for participating. Buster Seven   Talk  (UTC) 09:51, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Johnson360sadfg (22:13, 7 July 2024)
How can i make money on freelance platforms are --Johnson360sadfg (talk) 22:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * , I only answer questions about editing Wikipedia—you can find information about freelancing sites elsewhere on the Internet. But if you're thinking about using freelance sites to edit Wikipedia for pay, you should be aware that our rules strongly discourage paid editing and require you disclose who is paying you. People who don't follow these rules may be blocked from editing. If you want to make money from a freelancing platform, I'd encourage you to offer a skill other than editing Wikipedia. Let me know if you have any questions. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:37, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Mehzad Sepehr (12:28, 13 July 2024)
Hello there, I'm Mehzad and as you probably know, you are my mentor. If you don't mind, I had a quick question to ask: I wanted to know what are your main sources for adding more to an article other than searching through Internet? --Mehzad Sepehr (talk) 12:28, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Mehzad. Searching online is the most common way people find sources, but books and scholarly journals can also be very useful. If you have access to a library, that can be a great way to access those kinds of sources in print; otherwise, you can often find them through free sites like OpenLibrary (for books) and Internet Archive Scholar (for scholarly articles). If you stick around here for long enough, you can also get access to the Wikipedia Library, which lets you use many sources that you can't otherwise access. Ultimately, you should just try to use the most reliable sources you have access to, whether they're online, offline, or both. Let me know if you have any other questions. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:40, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from GKVMcDonald (05:12, 17 July 2024)
Hey brother, can you help me learn how can I create a new page in wikipedia? --GKVMcDonald (talk) 05:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello . This help page will probably answer most of your questions about creating a new article. Pay special attention to the section on "gathering references and establishing notability": a topic needs to have been discussed in detail by multiple reliable sources to be eligible for a Wikipedia article. Once you've read that, the Article Wizard will walk you through the steps of actually creating the article. Let me know if you have any questions along the way. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

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John J. Fisher Jr.
Apologies for using the wrong template on John J. Fisher Jr.. Can you help me finish setting up the Articles for Deletion page? I cannot because I do not have an account. Although I see that state legislators are "presumed" to have notability, my understanding is that under WP:GNG that is not guaranteed.

In this specific case, the person in question was only in office for less than a day, appointed to fill in for someone who resigned. Thank you! 173.175.200.238 (talk) 01:08, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Done: see Articles for deletion/John J. Fisher Jr. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:18, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Draft notice
Hello, Extraordinary Writ,

I like the notice you posted at Draft:Mehran Tebyani saying that the draftification is the result of an AFD closure. Did you just write this up yourself or is there an existing template notice that states this? Thanks for any insight you have. Liz Read! Talk! 00:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hi Liz. No, I just wrote it myself and used Template:Ombox to display it. I don't tend to get involved in the template namespace, but if you think it's useful you're welcome to do whatever you like with it. Hope you're doing well. (On a totally unrelated note, I was skimming your talk page recently and was thoroughly amused by this animation. I'm glad you rescued it from deletion!) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from JoeTheThinker (17:56, 21 July 2024)
Hello!, I want to know about BSc in applied biology which is offered by MWENGE CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY {MWECAU} in Moshi Kilimanjaro Tanzania --JoeTheThinker (talk) 17:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello . I can only answer questions about editing Wikipedia. You should contact the university directly if you have questions about its programs. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:44, 21 July 2024 (UTC)