Talk:Lamar Jackson

Photo
A photo is needed for this page! He will be 2020 Super Bowl contender... EatPizza (talk) 05:49, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * If you can find one that complies with Wikipedia's Image use policy, go ahead and upload it. Wikipedia is very strict when it comes to images, which is why you may find plenty of images of Jackson with a Google search, yet this article is without one. Your best bet is to go to a Louisville game and take one yourself. Lizard  (talk) 07:17, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2016
Whisperredd (talk) 16:38, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. 🔯 Sir Joseph 🍸 (talk) 16:42, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Reply to Sir Joseph 100.15.223.107 (talk) 00:24, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Just a thought
I don't have the experience to do the Good Article review but some glaring things are missing such as citation(s) for his birth date. And the personal life is way too short. Trillfendi (talk) 22:38, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I found his date birth of stated in the cited ESPN source for his college stats so cited it there as well. I do agree the article could be better but not sure what could/should be added as far as his personal life. S0091 (talk) 00:33, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I don’t know what’s out there personally, but I think 2 sentences it a little anemic. Perhaps things from early life can be merged there. Trillfendi (talk) 00:51, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't either. I am not a sports person myself but have seen enough in the media to glean he is somewhat a phenomenon.  I looked at the early life section but I do not think there is anything current enough to move to his personal life. What are your thoughts? S0091 (talk) 01:09, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Community service related things could go there. Trillfendi (talk) 02:27, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I am not seeing anything about community service (will do some more digging) but what about his clothing line which is currently in the Popular Culture section? S0091 (talk) 16:08, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I have been searching for more on his personal life as well and added a little more today. « Maryland stater » « reply » 03:53, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Pro Bowl Offensive MVP
His Pro Bowl Offensive MVP award should be listed in the Career highlights and awards block simply because it is an award, and because it happens to a single player rarely enough in a career that he'll likely never win it again. (talk) 18:04, 29 January 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.4.103.242 (talk)
 * See WP:NFLINFOBOX, an honor from an exhibition game is not noteworthy.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  13:06, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Eagles247, seen your link and it's just a rule with no reasoning behind it other than subjectivity and that's the beginning of the problem. Then there are multiple issues with your position: First, the Pro Bowl MVP not being "noteworthy" is subjective. It's a matter of opinion, not fact, and even that opinion is trumped by facts like Pro Bowl records being kept right here on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Bowl. Secondly, the Pro Bowl itself is mentioned in the highlight section of this very page showing that the Pro Bowl itself is noteworthy otherwise it wouldn't be mentioned there, so if the Pro Bowl is noteworthy certainly the Most Valuable Player Award of the Pro Bowl would have to be considered noteworthy, at least enough that the NFL names the MVP of that game and the Wikipedia page I posted lists those MVPs and other historical records and facts from the history of the Pro Bowl. (talk) 17:49, 1 February 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.4.103.242 (talk)
 * Thanks for the response. WP:NFLINFOBOX was created as a way to see where the current consensus by NFL Wikipedia editors is for what to include in these infoboxes. If you want to try to change the current consensus, feel free to start a talk page discussion at WT:NFL. However, as the guideline suggests, "As a rule of thumb, if an achievement doesn't have its own article it's probably too trivial."  Eagles   24/7  (C)  23:18, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I just want to point out one other thing: being named to a Pro Bowl is an award in and of itself as one very reliable source has it: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/awards/ not to mention that when players are mentioned that are often referred to in the vein of "13-Time Pro Bowler (((insert player name)))!" similar to "9-Time Grammy Winner (((insert artist name)!" Considering that, the fact "Pro Bowl (2019)" is mentioned in the "Career highlights and awards" section contradicts the current rule as it is an exhibition award. (talk) 12:52, 26 June 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.4.103.242 (talk)

NFL MVP
The fact that Lamar was named NFL MVP in 2019 should absolutely be included in his introduction. I have edited the following sentence to read "In 2019, Jackson was named NFL MVP after setting a record for the most rushing yards in a season by a quarterback and leading the league with 36 touchdown passes." but it keeps on getting edited to remove the NFL MVP detail. Please explain this to me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jampilot (talk • contribs) 16:47, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * It's already listed in the second sentence of the lead, you keep adding it in a second time.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  17:15, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * You're right, obviously totally overlooked that Jampilot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jampilot (talk • contribs) 02:21, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

"Player profile" original research
This "player profile" section is almost entirely original research, and the citations used do not support most of the claims: This is pure original research, plain and simple, and should not be reinstated without appropriate references from reliable sources. Eagles 24/7 (C)  00:49, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * "Jackson is widely considered to be greatest running quarterback in the NFL since Michael Vick. During his MVP season in 2019, Jackson broke Vick's record for the most rushing yards in a season totaling 1,206 yards on a average of 6.9 yards per carry all while leading the league in touchdown passes." This is only supported by a statistics database that does not explicitly state any of this information.
 * "Jackson has rare speed and acceleration for the quarterback position and is one of the fastest players in the NFL regardless of position." This is supported by an article discussing his Madden video game stats, and Madden ≠ real life.
 * "Although he refused to run the 40 time at the NFL combine as a result of skepticism about his ability as a pro quarterback and teams wanting him to switch positions" This is not supported by the reference following it.
 * "Jackson also demonstrates great running ability being able to elude & juke defenders in open field and also extending plays behind the line of scrimmage." This is followed by a reference to a highlight video from the Ravens website, which does not support the statement.
 * I think there's something there in the comparisons drawn between him and Vick, not to mention Vick says that Jackson is better than he was. I think the sources might be out there, but agree with Eagles247 that it was pretty much all OR. But we should definitely work on this. Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 18:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2022
So I got a major fucking problem with this page. Im here writing an essay on the change and fixing the injustices againt black Qb’s and here I use Lamar as an example. Im reading and reading to find out he now plays for the fucking Chicago Bears please fix this fucking issue my essay got graded a 60 for false information. Do me a favor and correct this entire article. SneakYZz (talk) 17:00, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Are you confusing this Ravens QB with Lamar Jackson (cornerback)? Cannolis (talk) 17:09, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
 * -- I saw the above and tried to add some info to the article based on info turned up by a bit of quick googling. Bad move -- see this. Some more quick googling turned up this, and I see now that this article is not about the Lamar Jackson (ex-CB, I see there) who recently signed with the Bears but about the Lamar Jackson (QB) who is still with the Ravens (see here). Re your expressed intent to use QB Jackson as an example of "injustices againt black Qb’s", I see the following in that article about him (the Ravens QB) that I've linked here: "Jackson is content to play out 2022 on his $23M fifth-year option, and then let the Ravens franchise tag him the following two years to facilitate him becoming the rarest of rare NFL commodities – a megastar quarterback on the open market before age 30." It looks to me as if you and I both ought to learn something from this. Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 20:18, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2022
Edit his weight from 212 to 230lbs Axohh (talk) 23:22, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:30, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2022
Lamar Jackson is a running back not a quarterback 2603:6010:AF02:B6F8:85CA:3245:2DAA:97C6 (talk) 00:33, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: His position is quarterback. His being a dual-threat quarterback doesn't change that. –– FormalDude  (talk)  02:47, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2023
Under Lamar Jackson's "NFL records" box, in the "Career highlights and awards" box there is something to add. One of the records states: "Most games with a perfect passer rating in the same season (tied with Ben Roethlisberger): 2 (2019)". This record is true, but the record is also shared with Peyton Manning. The record text should look like this: "Most games with a perfect passer rating in the same season (tied with Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger): 2 (2019)".

Best, Sam D.

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFL_quarterbacks_who_have_posted_a_perfect_passer_rating#cite_note-54 Sam Duquette (talk) 04:36, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Peyton Manning did not achieve this twice in the same season. As the article you cite states, he did it four times, two of which were close in time (season and post-season); however, the article is correct as it stands. Actualcpscm (talk) 22:00, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 March 2023
170.55.76.18 (talk) 15:47, 1 March 2023 (UTC) i need to request because all this is false
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:45, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2023
In the professional career tab during the 2023 season it is said the ravens earned the 5th seed in the playoffs. This is incorrect they earned the 6th seed. Please change that. 68.191.44.53 (talk) 16:07, 3 May 2023 (UTC)


 * I meant 2022 season sorry 68.191.44.53 (talk) 16:08, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Callme mirela &#127809; 17:46, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 September 2023
Remove detail about his supposed 40 yard dash time being the fastest ever. Mike Vick ran an official 4.33 at his pro-day, .01 seconds faster than Jackson's supposed time. 173.207.196.200 (talk) 04:04, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  — Paper9oll  (🔔 • 📝)  14:04, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2024
Remove "In high school, Jackson threw a football 100 yards.[15]"

This is not a realistic claim. The source for his 100 yard throw is a grainy video posted by Lamar Jackson on Twitter, where he himself states it went 95 yards, but it's impossible to verify that number from the footage. I was unable to find any documented evidence of a football being thrown over 80 yards. The surviving results from the NFL QB challenge held between 1990-2007 lists a 76 yard throw as the competitions all time longest throw.

Pro Football Focus, which has documented every NFL throw since the 2006 season, lists this throw of 74 yards as the longest in their database.

It seems clear that throws in the in the mid to high 70 yard range is the upper bound of what is physically possible for quarterbacks, and Jackson being able to far surpass this is not a credible. OctaviusBCS (talk) 00:23, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ M.Bitton (talk) 14:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2024
Lamar Jackson and Adoree Jackson are second cousins once removed 2600:8801:298:DD00:3973:6014:3F60:9D74 (talk) 01:06, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 01:19, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 January 2024
Chick artist 2603:6080:9F40:704:913F:9A36:9F74:EDA8 (talk) 03:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 03:40, 29 January 2024 (UTC)