Talk:List of Australia national cricket captains

FL status?
It strikes me that this page isn't far off meeting the criteria in What is a featured list? It would be nice to improve it up to the required standard and get it featured status. I'll make some improvements myself, it would be good to have other contributions too, jguk 12:35, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The list of one-day captains is a bit misleading. The order of Border, Bright, Marsh, Taylor, implies that Allan Border was suceeded by Ray Bright, who was suceeded by Geoff Marsh. Whereas Border (as indicated by the number of games), was the full time captain during that time, with Bright and Marsh replacing him due to injury. I'm not sure how this could be changed (you could have Border Bright, Border, Marsh, Border, Taylor), but it does seem odd that on Allan Border's page it states that his successor as ODI captain was Ray Bright.


 * Maybe the list of one day captains could be re-done similar to some other lists where people have held positions multiple times (e.g. Prime Minister of Australia) GK1 17:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Opposition Australia
Some of the series in the Test captains list say that the opposition was Australia! (e.g. Don Bradman 1948) How can someone captain Australia against Australia? GK1 17:39, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Some typos had sneaked in. Fixed now hopefully. Sam Vimes | Address me 17:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Article
This is a fabulous article. Congratulations!!ROxBo (talk) 12:41, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

List name
Per WP:LISTNAME, list titles should begin with "List of". Since this is a guideline and there is no common-sense reason to ignore it, I don't see why this guideline should be ignored. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:05, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

See Featured lists for a list of out best lists, which all follow this guideline. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:08, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * There are plenty of common-sense reasons to ignore it, the main reason being that "List of:" is redundant in this case. The article is quite clearly a list and WP:NAME says (in a nutshell) "Titles should be brief without being ambiguous." and "Titles should make linking to the article simple". Adding the meaningless "List of" in this case does not achieve either of those aims. The slavish following of guidelines without consideration of their context and spirit is counter-productive to the aim of developing an encyclopedia; Wikipedia is not a nomic where following the rules is more important than the outcome.


 * This article was also at one stage a featured list without the redundant "List of" appendage. -- Mattinbgn\talk 00:15, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This is a guideline supported by consensus, I would suggest bringing it up at the guideline's talk page first. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:18, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * BTW, there are several places where this consensus has been demonstrated: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association/Archive_10, Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Baseball/Archive_11, and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Football_League/Archive_8, to name a few. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:21, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This quote in the NBA discussion seem relevant "Personally, I don't go a lot for "list of" titles, since you can pretty much see that immediately." However, I don't agree with his follow up "But if it's in the MOS, then I will accept it blindly (ahem)" Why blindly accept something that makes the encyclopedia less user-friendly? LISTNAME says "The name or title of the list should simply be List of ..."; should is not must. -- Mattinbgn\talk 00:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, I don't mind at all if you start a discussion for change at the guideline page. Personally, I believe that Wikipedia consensus and guidelines trumps WikiProject status quos. I don't see a reason to be inconsistent between article types. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:29, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Very few Wikipedia guidelines will say "must", it's part of the Wikipedia culture. Let's wait for more opinions. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:31, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I'd prefer the more truncated wording, but it dosn't make any any real difference to substance really  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) 00:44, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

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