Talk:List of Mayday episodes/Archive 5

Ongoing ratings, annual performance
Does anyone have access to data on the ratings this series is generating in its various viewing markets? And then how is the series trending long term? Is it doing better now - and is more popular now - w/ the viewership than it was five years ago, for example? Or what is considered the "best" season thus far, with the most compelling incidents and storylines? Has there been any decrease in the viewership in 2012-13, for example, owing to their being a dearth of interesting/exciting/deadly air crashes, or are the producers able to taxi-out equally engaging incidents? Any assessment/analysis of the long-term performance of the show and variances in annual/seasonal "quality" would be appreciated to know thanks! Azx2 01:43, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

S11E6 - Turning Point's cause was not confirmed
As said in the movie around 37m40s, "Probable cause is fatigue failure of the Lower power control module", "[...] but the root cause of the failure is never found". I already altered the document, but if I misinterpreted any information, undo my change. --Sergio Abilio (talk) 01:56, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Special Compilation Episode
How many accidents will be in season 13 episode 11? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.226.22 (talk) 17:54, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That is one of the greatest mysteries of Humanity. No one knows. So far, no one was told that, therefore, it's impossible to know. -- Sim(ã)o(n)  * Wanna talk? See my  efforts?  07:35, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Season 13 Episodes
Recently announced by Cineflix Rights. Interesting to see the "Special Compilation Episode". Could this be the final season? Hopefully not, it is doing well in the ratings. Anywhere here is the link before William takes it down.. Ha ha. http://s3.amazonaws.com/cflx-videos/int/assets/401/Mayday_13.pdf Qantasplanes (talk) 10:49, 24 March 2013 (UTC)


 * It said on the Wikipedia of TWA Flight 800 that the "Special Compilation Episode" will do that crash. So what do you think Qantasplanes? Are they doing TWA 800 as the "Special Compilation Episode"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.74.120 (talk) 21:56, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Nope, just some false info by some anonymous IP edit. Qantasplanes (talk) 06:22, 2 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I would assume the "Special Compilation Episode" might be the series's 100th episode... They're about due for it. Paris1127 (talk) 12:07, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. Never believe in IP edits. Qantasplanes (talk) 05:45, 3 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I never believe in IP edits too. They so annoying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.74.120 (talk) 10:17, 3 April 2013 (UTC)


 * So what's the Special Compilation Episode about then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.105.74.120 (talk) 13:17, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Maybe you should create an account considering you are an IP (anonymous). Anyway, that episode should be about incidents from past seasons. Qantasplanes (talk) 05:04, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I think it will be the final episode, and they may review the main causes of the crashes. But it would still be a pity that they would finish the series. I liked it so much... However, not being that, there would be no reason for a Special Episode Compilation. And, if it says "Special Episode Compilation", why would it be TWA 800? One can obviously see it's no specific crash. Obviously, the guy who said that was lying. -- Sim(ã)o(n)  * Wanna talk? See my  efforts?  22:04, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Three possibilities, the show would end (hopefully not, it's a great and informative) show, it's to celebrate the 100th episode or it's just another Science of Disaster episode. Qantasplanes (talk) 05:00, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Right now, the page shows that the 100th episode will be during Season 13, but that it will be another crash. This is, of course, subject to change. I wouldn't be shocked if they move the compilation to episode 100. Perhaps it might have a behind the scenes section? I too hope it isn't going off the air. Paris1127 (talk) 19:13, 6 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Do you know what the Special Compilation Episode will be about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.226.22 (talk) 14:52, 6 May 2013 (UTC)


 * I've noticed something I might consider at least peculiar. If you do not count with the Crash Scene Investigation and the Science of Disaster episodes, the Compilation will be the 101st episode. It may be the end of Mayday, with 100 episodes about plane crashes. -- Sim(ã)o(n)  * Wanna talk? See my  efforts?  14:32, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

It could also be another special episode (Science of Disaster). Maybe it the show would go on, which is great news Qantasplanes (talk) 06:55, 7 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Qantas, we're in a crisis... Maybe those guys are running out of money, and they're using this 100th episode milestone to make a final episode. But... not all is lost! What about Seconds From Disaster? Do you recall how, after the 3rd season, the show was suspended? I don't, because I've only started to watch it quite recently... Yet it restarted a few years later... Why shouldn't the same thing happen with Mayday? -- Sim(ã)o(n)  * Wanna talk? See my  efforts?  21:18, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Hmm your probably right, maybe it will go on to hiatus for a couple of years but still hoping it will be another Science of Disaster episode, maybe Terrorism or Fires? Dunno Qantasplanes (talk) 08:33, 8 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, looking back at those specials, I'd say c'est dommage that only some of them were made... "Ripped Apart", "Fatal Flaw", "Who's Flying the Plane?", "System Breakdown" and "Cruel Skies" aren't the only causes for plane crashes... And why only 3 CSIs (Crash Scene Investigations)? What else can I say? C'est dommage, c'est dommage... -- Sim(ã)o(n)  * Wanna talk? See my  efforts?  19:26, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

On IMDb

 * IMDB fails WP:RS, so the edit was reverted....William 15:46, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

William, when is the edit going to pass then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.227.170 (talk) 15:52, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * When there is a source for it that passes WP:RS....William 15:57, 24 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Very good point from Willy Qantasplanes (talk) 06:19, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Fine, find a source that passes it then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.227.170 (talk) 11:05, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 September 2013
Please update Australian name for series 10 episode 3 to "Power Struggle"

Sandpit147 (talk) 06:52, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Semi protected lock still here
September 24 has passed now. Why is the semi-protected lock still here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.17.38 (talk) 15:20, 25 September 2013 (UTC)


 * A bot will be along soon and remove it just give it time to do the rounds. MilborneOne (talk) 18:41, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Aircraft types
Another matter... What aircraft types should we use? I've spotted that the article is not consistent in using aircraft types, be it generic (e.g. Boeing 737-200) or specific (Boeing 737-222). I think we ought to agree on one type and then apply it to all episodes in each section. What's your opinion on that Qantasplanes? FonEengIneeR7 talk 16:18, 28 November 2013 (UTC)


 * We dont normally use the Boeing customer or Airbus engine codes when we refer to aircraft types. MilborneOne (talk) 19:25, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

What do the years indicate?
What do the years shown in brackets after each season actually indicate? FonEengIneeR7 talk 19:43, 9 December 2013 (UTC)


 * For the episode list of the article it is when the season was produced. For the Alt titles it is when it aired... Qantasplanes (talk) 06:11, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Season 14
This is very interesting.... http://www.pprune.org/tech-log/527802-b737-400-autothrottle.html Qantasplanes (talk) 05:25, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Hey, Qantasplanes, season 14 is in production! Can't wait! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.200.8 (talk) 16:58, 19 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Message boards fail WP:RS. So don't use it as a source for this article....William 21:33, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * We get it William!!! Qantasplanes (talk) 04:24, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Qantasplanes is right, William. We just get episode lists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.200.8 (talk) 14:47, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Aerolinee Itavia Flight 870
I removed the part ' but experts involved in an earlier investigation dispute this conclusion, stating that wreckage points towards a bomb explosion within the fuselage.' Why did I do this? The source may fail WP:RS. We don't know anything about the website or the author of this report. He writes 'In July 1992 the author was asked to submit a report on the aircraft wreckage recovered.' Was he involved in the earlier investigation. This needs to be looked into for the meantime. If someone gets a reliable source, it can go back up. Remember also this is just an episode guide. We do summaries, more full fledged descriptions of what may or may not have happened are for the crash article....William 20:32, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Having viewed the episode this is the most prominent investigator interviewed and whose opinion the programme makers quite clearly adopt - the source is taken from the section covering his part of the investigation on the crash page. It is certainly an unusual case but if you view the episode a bomb is clearly the hypothesis advanced, but the show makes clear that controversy remains, with the reliability of the court case outcome heavily criticised. It would appear very curious then to synopsise the episode as being about a missile shootdown when the show then goes on to largely debunk that theory and conclude that a bomb was most likely (whether or not this agrees with the Italian court's recent decision). As a genuine question I'm not quite sure what source to cite for that fact other than the show itself, which I'm not sure would be reliably and permanently available online anywhere, hence why I chose to put the investigator's report to support it (the investigation team's findings having not been properly published in a formal third accident report but rather as part of a broader review of the case it seems, which apparently did not meet ICAO report standards). BroSwerve (talk) 22:34, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Table color
What about changing that dark black table color into a bit brighter dark, for example into #242833? #000 is really distracting. FonEengIneeR7 (talk) 13:31, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Good idea mate, i'll consider it. I'd like Will's opinion as well... Qantasplanes (talk) 11:07, 26 November 2013 (UTC)


 * I have no problem with a change of colors. Whatever looks best....William 02:13, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Understood. I'll suggest a range of colors soon. FonEengIneeR7 talk 10:41, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

What about these...?

1.#460D0D

2.#182F5F

3.#15430A

Personally, I prefer the second one. FonEengIneeR7 talk 12:17, 30 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Me to, i'd like to see the second one. Qantasplanes (talk) 04:31, 1 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Hey, I totally support the change in colour! That was a great idea, really! But what about going further and changing colours according to the season of the programme? Many other articles of TV shows in Wikipedia do that. I think it might be better, although somewhat laborious. If someone doesn't mind doing it... Thanks! (BTW, am I the only one here who spells "colour" with a U? :) ) -- Sim(ã)o(n)  * Talk to me! See my  efforts!  16:32, 17 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Why hasn't anyone replied to my question yet? Was it because of my last remark? Oh, I'm sorry if I've insulted anyone... I was just a joke, and not meaning to be hurtful... I even added the smiley face!... Sorry about that. I'll stop that now. But is anyone going to say something, please?... -- Sim(ã)o(n)  * Talk to me! See my  efforts!  19:01, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Huh, I don't think anyone felt insulted by that... It's probabaly just because no one has seen it. Anyways, let's come back to your idea: I would not consider it to be a constructive step simply because we have 13 episodes (#14 is on its way) and thus would need 14 different colors which again would be very distracting. FonEengIneeR7 talk 09:12, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I also doubt anyone has felt insulted. I was kind of just kidding, and trying to draw someone's attention to my question, and making sure there had been no problem... But, back to my question, do you really think different many different colours are distracting? Why? I'm aware of three other shows whose Wikipedia articles for their episodes lists have different colours for different seasons—namely, The Universe, The Big Bang Theory, and Modern Family (other TV shows I like). They have no more than seven seasons, that's true, but I just thought it could be interesting to vary upon colours. But, if no one else thinks this is a good idea, I'll have no problem leaving the tables like they are now... -- Sim(ã)o(n)  * Talk to me! See my  efforts!  22:44, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Into the Eye of the Storm?
I can't find any mentions of this episode (S13E06) anywhere but this article. Is the information correct? It looks like a hoax. Le Grand Bleu (talk) 14:15, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Several online sources are listing it as episode 9, not episode 6, and it's listed on the Natgeo website, so it's legit, but maybe in the wrong place in the table. YSSYguy (talk) 14:41, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It is not a hoax. Mayday: Seasons XIII Episode 6 NOAA 42 Hurricane Hunter -- FonEengIneeR7 talk 14:55, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe not a hoax, but it definitely needs to be relocated. Episode 6 has already been aired and it was Terror in paradise. Le Grand Bleu (talk) 09:18, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You need to bear in mind that the episodes are not sorted according to their air dates but to their production numbers. So there are no errors as far as the order is concerned. FonEengIneeR7  talk 17:54, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Episode List
The dates for Season 14 should be 2014 TBA to 2015 TBA. Would have corrected but the page is locked out — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reimull (talk • contribs) 12:52, 21 February 2014 (UTC)


 * It's correct mate Qantasplanes (talk) 05:52, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Season 14 episode list
Because production on seasons 12 and 13 started in February and the episode lists for these seasones was released in March, I think the Season 14 episode list may be released in February because production on season 14 started in January. Am I right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.200.8 (talk) 21:51, 1 February 2013 (UTC)


 * Yeah, perhaps.... FonEengIneeR7  talk 18:56, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * A definite maybe....William 19:36, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Okay, let's wait and see. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.200.8 (talk) 16:31, 13 February 2013 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.23.45.68 (talk)

Sorry FonEengIneeR7 and WilliamJE, I was wrong. Maybe in March then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.27.24.110 (talk) 10:32, 1 March 2014 (UTC)


 * No need to apologize mate! FonEengIneeR7  talk 21:22, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Season 5
YSSYguy, you spelt one word wrong in the phantom strike summary. It should be 'rainforest'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.186.145 (talk) 16:26, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Huh? There is not a single rainforest in France... FonEengIneeR7  talk 16:39, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant in the Phantom Strike description. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.186.145 (talk) 17:07, 5 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Ups, my bad.. sorry. It should indeed read 'rainforest'. I will correct it. FonEengIneeR7  talk 19:15, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

And FonEengIneeR7, the Air India 182 summary is missing the word 'air' in it. Can you put it back on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.186.145 (talk) 20:32, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Season 13 descriptions
I'm not overly happy with what I have written about the Air Moorea Twotter accident. Although the info is in accordance with the investigation report, my concern is that someone unfamiliar with aircraft won't be able to understand it. Also, in the description for the Staines crash, I linked the term "droops" to Variable camber wing; again I'm not happy, but it's the best fit I could find in the existing WP articles concerning wing leading edges - at least its mentioned there, but only briefly. YSSYguy (talk) 10:21, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Somewhat surprisingly, I think they are fine... Qantasplanes (talk) 10:25, 6 March 2014 (UTC)


 * The WL was bothering me, so I created Droop (aircraft) to deal with that issue; and I had another go at the Twotter description. YSSYguy (talk) 23:19, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Air NZ 901 episode replacement
The reason why the Air NZ 901 episode won't air is because we already have our 10 normal season 13 episode titles. We just got the season 13 spin-off to go. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.95.29 (talk) 17:16, 16 January 2014 (UTC)


 * That's WP:OR. Cineflix is still listing the episode. To avoid this problem, we can just list episodes only when their airing is confirmed. I can see the steam coming out of Qantasplanes when he reads that suggestion of mine....William 18:26, 17 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Really funny William, real funny *wink* Qantasplanes (talk) 05:22, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Air NZ 901 could be in season 14 in my theory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.95.29 (talk) 20:25, 29 January 2014 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.169.52 (talk)


 * That's what I anticipate as well, but let's wait until Cineflix releases the draft for S14. FonEengIneeR7  talk 21:50, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


 * People's theories and wish list episodes anymore. There's been enough bs on this page in the past. For instance this and read this talk page post of mine. Better yet, a Mayday episode on a 1960 plane crash where 600 people died....William 22:05, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

At least we still have Air New Zealand (XL Airways Germany) Flight 888T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.95.29 (talk) 17:17, 30 January 2014 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.169.52 (talk)   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.193.105 (talk)


 * How do you know that it won't be aired with 100% certainty? They haven't exactly stuck to 10 episodes per season in the past, so this one could have 12. (talk)

The Air New Zealand 901 episode could be S13E11. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.186.145 (talk) 18:56, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

What about hiding the causes?
Hello, people! I was wondering this... Call me stupid, but I like to watch Mayday documentaries without knowing, at first, the cause of the crash I'm going to watch, so the result of the investigation can be a surprise for me, but this list of episodes often includes the causes of the disasters, so it kinda breaks that suspense... You get me? I think maybe we should not tell here the causes of the crashes, so people can get a look into the list of episodes, without knowing, at first, the cause. If they do wanna know them without watching the show, they can always check out the Wikipedia page about it. So, what do you folks think? Should we? -- Sim(ã)o(n)  * Wanna talk? See my  efforts?  17:57, 15 April 2013 (UTC)


 * See WP:Spoiler. Qantasplanes (talk) 10:38, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

OK, I've seen it, thanks. Honestly, I'm in favor of making spoiler warnings in Wikipedia, if not hiding those sentences that can spoil something, but it does look like I'm part of a minority. OK, let's then leave things as they are... -- Sim(ã)o(n)  * Wanna talk? See my  efforts?  21:00, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

My preference is not to add spoiler warnings but rather to delete the spoilers. In the context of this article, this renders moot the arguments and guideline against spoiler warnings. To my knowledge, there is no Wiki guideline that requires the inclusion of spoilers. I'm with the OP, these shows go out of their way to keep you in suspense for more than half of each episode, and these spoilers definitely detract from my enjoyment. While they admittedly have an upside, their downside is greater, imo. Mandruss (talk) 01:53, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Season 14, episode 3
This is interesting, possible that Varig Flight 254 is also on the upcoming episodes of Season 14 according to IMDB... ("Mayday" Varig: Flight 254). British Midland Flight 92 and Air France 4590 (All done by SFD) are also out there... Qantasplanes (talk) 09:09, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

On IMDB, it's also possible that Fedex Express Flight 80 is on the upcoming episodes of season 14. Copa Airlines Flight 201 is also confirmed by PPRuNe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.27.40.85 (talk) 16:48, 8 April 2014 (UTC)


 * According to WP:RS/IMDB "IMDb content is user-submitted and often subject to incorrect speculation and rumor. The use of the IMDb on Wikipedia for referencing is considered unacceptable and strongly discouraged." So do not enter Season 14 episodes based on Imdb....William 22:31, 8 April 2014 (UTC)


 * As well as Lauda 004 TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 08:59, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

And the 2008 Mexico city plane crash. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.254.138 (talk) 16:21, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

And so is the 1999 JFK jr crash.

Problems with an IP user
There is an IP user coming in on 174.21.108.225 and 97.126.81.40 who keeps trying to add the following block of text to the page:

"' -- also note: The season six episodes airdates listed here are before the season 5 airdates, this absolutely precludes these episodes being in production order. they are actually listed in the order they appear on the DVDs. Same thing for season 8 and season 7 airdates."

It has been repeatedly reverted by several editors. I would like to suggest that the page be placed on protection.

Graham1973 (talk) 15:05, 17 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I have warned him, but no reaction to that yet. Protection sounds good. --Hansbaer (talk) 10:22, 18 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I have semi-protected the article to encourage talk page discussion. MilborneOne (talk) 11:16, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I know some of the new episodes for Season 14
Hello everyone it's your best ban user RK ;) but I do have Info for you, many mouths back I E-mailed Cineflix for suggestions for further episodes for Air Crash Investigation. In which and e-mail send me back that several of the suggestions will be shown in Season 14 but because this was an e-mail and not an official confirmation on say a website that can't use it on here as an reference. So should I just leave it for anything official to be released or can I add it onto the article without references? I know I kind of dick about with you guys but Air Crash Investigation is my favorite show and I watch it every day. This time not making fun and been debating whether I should do this asking you guy cuz well not well liked am I guy's but for once I'd like to help and you can ban me after if you like :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.38.247 (talk) 11:37, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Can you list the ones you know? D.M. Krol (talk) 20:11, 19 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Without a reference from a WP:RS it won't be let in the article. Plus this IP is a banned user. Any edits he makes will be reverted....William 20:52, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

More Mythical Episodes
I can't believe this was on the Wikipedia page for Mayday for 1 and a half hours. This is even worse than BA flight whatever. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mayday_(TV_series)&diff=next&oldid=53626733 TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 09:05, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Correct the error i made
I accidentally deleted some bottom material. Can one of you editors revert the edit I made? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.9.249.69 (talk) 17:07, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Season 3 Episode Order
I believe there may be a mistake in the order of the last few episodes in Season 3. According to the DVD release and on iTunes the episode order is as follows:

9. Kid in the Cockpit

10. Head-On Collision

11. Collision Course

12. Runway Train

Every other episode in the list is exactly as it is shown in the DVDs/iTunes expect for those episodes above. Does anyone know why the episodes were listed differently in the article and would I be correct in assuming that the order listed in iTunes is the correct order?

https://itunes.apple.com/au/tv-season/air-crash-investigations-season/id681453049 Alexandarkotevski (talk) 22:44, 27 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Look at the official ep sheet by cineflix TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 00:38, 28 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Where can you find the official ep sheet, I've looked everywhere on the cineflix website. Graham1973 (talk) 01:47, 28 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Look at the latest one, https://cflx-videos.s3.amazonaws.com/int/assets/401/Mayday_13.pdf TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 05:10, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

DVD releases
Seasons 1, 3 and 4 have been released on DVD I think. Can someone add them TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 05:08, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

This is getting ridiculous
Only one Season 14 episode is confirmed?!. The other episodes will never ever be announced and BTW, I'll delete the episodes you editors put up. The sources are all unreliable! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.23.98.234 (talk) 18:26, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

OK, Natgeo's reliable and gives clear indication of episodes. I'll try and be patient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.23.98.234 (talk) 19:59, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

How about making a new archieve?
This archieve looks a bit long. Shall we make a new one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.23.98.234 (talk) 16:34, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


 * maybe at the end of this year TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 00:46, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2014
Request to edit description of Season 6, to state that they are 'highlight' shows of previous episodes, rather than original programs.

Derby999 (talk) 19:29, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. It's not exactly clear exactly what you want changed in to what or why you think it should be changed.  Please expand on your request and develop some kind of consensus before reactivating this request.  Thank you. :) — &#123;&#123;U&#124;Technical 13&#125;&#125; (e • t • c) 02:35, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protection
When are you going to take the protection off the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.71.16 (talk) 10:42, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Speculated Season 14 Episode List
This speculative listing comes from a youtube page run by someone using the identifier "Air Crash Investigations", they don't give a source but has anyone been able to find a more firm one, especially as Air New Zealand Flight 901 is not on the list?


 * Varig Flight 254
 * Copa Flight 201
 * FedEx Flight 80
 * British Midland Flight 092
 * Mexico City 2008 Learjet Crash
 * Air France Flight 4590
 * 1999 JFK Junior Plane Crash
 * Lauda Flight 004

Air Crash Investigation: Season 14 (Episodes)

Graham1973 (talk) 09:06, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


 * The person who posted this at Youtube says his sources for it included Linkedin, Wikipedia, Imdb. Wikipedia fails per WP:Circular that says you can't use WP as a source. Linkedin and Imdb fail WP:RS. I cited up above the exact WP page that says Imdb can't be used as a reference.


 * Also note I've twice recently, here and here, deleted attempts to be up unsourced season 14 episodes. This page has a long history of people trying to put up their wishlists up here. We have had two cases of people making up crashes. Check this edit] or this AFD. The faux episode count is approximately 30.


 * Without a WP:RS that Youtube wish list will not be allowed up on the article....William 17:24, 29 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, but that is why I posted it to the talk page rather then the main page, as it is only the Varig incident can be considered as confirmed as part of the season since we have a press release from the company hired to shoot the 'location footage' confirming it. I suppose we will have to wait until the end of July when filming finishes. Graham1973 (talk) 02:11, 30 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I just deleted a list of season 14 episodes once again. Oh they had references, but each link went back to the article on the crash. That obviously violates WP:CIRCULAR and no link to any other source was given. So they were removed again. It did look like that You tube list....William 21:57, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Ciniflix are now listing the 14th Season on their Mayday frontpage.Graham1973 (talk) 02:34, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Been trying various searches to see if Ciniflix has posted a list of what is covered this season, so far no luck.Graham1973 (talk) 10:02, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Still have not located a concrete listing of Season 14 episodes. The youtube video giving a speculated list has been updated so that it now says were the poster got them, there is also a lot of speculation as to why there is no concrete list from Ciniflix yet.Graham1973 (talk) 03:12, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe they won't release a sheet this year. TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 10:49, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Found a site called OVGuide which has on it a listing similar to the one in my original post OVGuide - Air Crash Investigations Season 14, but only has nine episodes and I have no idea if this is an "anyone can edit" setup.Graham1973 (talk) 15:07, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Probably is, ep 10 now up TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 06:02, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

IMDB has now listed MH370 as episode 11 TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 09:09, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Definitely bogus, there is no final investigation report to work from for that incident, though they did do that with the Air Transat incident. Anyone had luck in finding a more authoritative listing.Graham1973 (talk) 14:18, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Nope not yet. TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 15:00, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * There was a plane crash in Cuba a few years ago and less than a week later some editor had this article saying there would be an episode on that crash. What's the saying- History always repeats itself?...William 23:57, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Looking at the current release list for 14 it would seem that whoever was behind that youtube channel either guessed right or had inside sources. Interesting that episode 9 is 'in the air' so to speak. I wonder if that is going to turn out to be the Air New Zealand Flight 901 episode that disappeared from last season.Graham1973 (talk) 11:23, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I doubt ANZ 901 will be featured but the uploader seems to constantly update the list TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 11:30, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Episode 9 of Season 14
I am pretty sure they said that episode 9 of season 14 involves Manxx2 flight 7100. Keeg01 (talk) 18:06, 30 November 2014 (UTC)


 * There is no WP:RS for it....William 20:24, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Correction Request
They were 109 people on board Air France 4590 when it crashed, not 113 and 4 on the ground were killed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.71.16 (talk) 16:44, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 November 2014
Request to edit the type of aircraft for Avianca 203 as it says McDonnell Douglas MD-11F even though the aircraft involved in the bombing was a Boeing 727-100.

Another request to add the names for Fedex 80 and Avianca 203.

Fedex 80 and Avianca 203's Swedish translations are "Death at Narita" and "Sideswiped".

Tntad (talk) 23:30, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Swedish translations are usually wrong and the info has been removed TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 23:57, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Sidewiped has been mistaken as Copa 201 probably TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 11:33, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I really can't believe you wouldn't trust Google Translate. Anyways, I have put the title Death at Narita up but not Sideswiped as I don't think that would read right in English. The GRVO fLigh tning (talk)	 13:04, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you blind, you don't need GT TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 05:48, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Guys, stop disputing the titles of S14E04 and S14E05. Just wait until the real titles are announced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.153.79 (talk) 13:20, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Agreed TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 04:53, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Sideswiped and Death at Narita is now on NatGeo Austraila, alongside 3rd time unlucky. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.255.190 (talk) 15:23, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Removing protection
When is the protection on this page coming off? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.13.155 (talk) 19:00, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Indefinite, i thinkJustPlaneEditing (talk) 02:12, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I guess the protection will be removed when all the season 14 episodes are confirmed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.13.155 (talk) 11:52, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Malaysia Airlines flight 370 episode.
On National Geographic South Africa, there is a 3-minute teaser for an episode about Malaysia Airlines flight 370. The episode appears to be titled "Missing Plane". The video can be found at this website address:

http://natgeotv.com/za/air-crash-investigation/videos/missing-plane

Can you please include this on the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.69.110.222 (talk) 06:43, 30 December 2014 (UTC)


 * A belated thanks JustPlaneEditing (talk) 02:08, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Its not up on the page yet though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.69.110.222 (talk) 18:57, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

We might have to wait until we have more confirmation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.206.104 (talk) 19:24, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

NEW Canadian name for S14E01
The new canadian name (cineflix) has been revealed for s14e01 it is Choosing Sides — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayday-in-HD (talk • contribs) 01:59, 10 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Source? JustPlaneEditing (talk) 09:24, 11 January 2015 (UTC)


 * If you look at the video from Cineflix, it says Choosing Sides. Aci mayday (talk) 19:18, 29 January 2015

Stop it
Once you make a talk page comment, leave it alone. I'm really growing tired of the constant nitpick edits here and posts coming and going. The last straw was seeing my own comment removed. That is NOT ALLOWED AT ALL....William 17:49, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

SORRY, WILLIAM!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.27.40.85 (talk) 19:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

You also got to stop saying 'unreferenced' everytime you revert an edit. I hate that word. Say 'unsourced' or something. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.27.16.25 (talk) 11:50, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Death in the arctic aircraft
It recently got put on the wiki page that the aircraft type in S14E10 is a Boeing 777-200ER. If it is true that that episode is First air 6560, than its wrong. Also, no 777's have crashed in the arctic region. 111.69.108.130 (talk) 18:35, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

There were no 777 accidents in the Arctic. Episode 10 is possibly First Air 6560. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.236.183 (talk) 18:36, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I think you misunderstood me. The fact that I think is wrong is that the aircraft for that episode is a 777. I do believe that episode 10 is First Air 6560. 111.69.108.130 (talk) 18:32, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting it, mate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.236.183 (talk) 19:33, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

So we now have 11 episodes (not 10) for Season 14? I would have thought the Arctic one were MH370, but interesting it's now featured. Can someone update the list if it is indeed confirmed (to 11). Bobman84 (talk) 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Fedex crashes section
Fedex 14 came first and then Fedex 80. So the order should be like this: Fedex Express Flight 14 and Fedex Express Flight 80. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.200.54 (talk) 13:03, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2015
86.29.236.183 (talk) 11:41, 19 January 2015 (UTC) The descriptions for Copa 201 and First Air 6560 need some present tense, like all the other descriptions.
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  B E C K Y S A Y L E S  17:29, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, here they are the changes I wanted:

On 6 June 1992, Copa Airlines Flight 201, a Boeing 737, flips, disintigrates in mid air and crashes into the Darien Gap 29 minutes after take off, killing all 47 people on board. The accident was caused by faulty instrument readings and several other contributing factors, including incomplete training.

On 20 August 2011, First Air Flight 6560, a charter flight, crashes near to their destination of Resolute Bay Airport, Resolute, Nunavut, Canada in poor weather conditions. Out of the 15 passengers and crew, only three survived.


 * Done, thanks JustPlaneEditing (talk) 13:06, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Some names for season 14
I got the Canadian names for the first few episodes...

S14E01 : Choosing Sides S14E02 : Niki Lauda: Testing the Limits S14E03 : Vanishing Act S14E04 : Sideswiped S14E05 : The Final Push S14E06 : The Death of JFK Jr. S14E07 : Concorde - Up in Flames (actually I'm not sure about this one though..) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aci mayday (talk • contribs) 04:39, 28 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Source? JustPlaneEditing (talk) 11:49, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Correction Request
The part 'the thrust reverser of No.1 engine' doesn't make sense. I suggest we need 'the' between 'of' and 'No.1 engine'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.137.72 (talk) 19:03, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
 * What doesn't make sense? There is No. 1 engine and No. 2 engine (and No. 3 and No. 4 on a four-engine aircraft). YSSYguy (talk) 12:12, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry I meant that you missed a word out. You need the word 'the' between the words 'of' and 'No.1 engine'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.137.72 (talk) 12:21, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

The correction should be like this: 'the thrust reverser of the No.1 engine'.

Semi-protected edit request on 7 February 2015
92.22.170.43 (talk) 18:11, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Can you make the following correction: the thrust reverser of the No. 1 engine. Just put the word 'the' between 'of' and 'No. 1'.
 * Yes check.svg Done Cannolis (talk) 07:30, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Varig 254 and Manx2 7100 air dates
Vanshing Act's airdate is February 2 and 3rd Time Unlucky's airdates is February 9, according to Nat Geo UK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.80.252 (talk) 14:49, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

NatGeo (https://natgeotv.com/uk/air-crash-investigation/about) now lists 3rd Time Unlucky's airdate as February 10. Not sure exactly how to change the airdate listed on wikipedia. It seems like the dates are all wrong and don't seem to make any sense. (i.e. Some of the airdates are for Mondays, others are for Tuesdays. Some episodes have already aired but are dated as not having aired yet, etc.) Thoraxcorp (talk) 04:23, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2015
Cutekt81 (talk) 06:31, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Your request is blank. Stickee (talk) 07:34, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

We need some commas in the S14E05 description, S14E11 description and the UPS 6 description to improve punctuation:

'flips over, bursting into flames'

'As of February 2015, the Boeing 777-200ER has not been found'

'land back at the airport, but are unsuccessful'

Problems with Seahawk
JustPlaneEditing, Seahawk keeps changing M1 Plane Crash to Choosing Sides. If he keeps doing that, get an administrator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.16.116.44 (talk) 17:26, 3 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, I know I'm dealing with the user JustPlaneEditing (talk) 06:10, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Seahawk has entered Choosing Sides again. Revert the edit please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.113.234 (talk) 09:50, 13 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Reverted. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:49, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 Feb 2015
Here are the canadian names for Season 14:

S14E01: Choosing Sides

S14E02: Niki Lauda: Testing the Limits

S14E03: Vanishing Act

S14E04: Sideswiped

S14E05: The Final Push

S14E06: The Death of JFK Jr.

S14E07: Concorde - Up in Flames

S14E08: TBA

S14E09: TBA

S14E10: TBA

S14E11: What Happened to Malaysian 370? (SPECIAL!) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aci mayday (talk • contribs) 19:42, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2015
80.44.227.189 (talk) 14:18, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

The First Air 6560 episode has aired now on 24 February 2015. The link for it needs deleting.
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —  15:49, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Correction please
Someone messed up the Aeroflot 593 description by replacing 'and creating' to 'causing'. Can someone revert the edit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.219.152 (talk) 11:31, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svgTaken care of, albeit not exactly what was suggested - a stall isn't really 'created'. YSSYguy (talk) 09:51, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Season 14 Candian titles
The season 14 Candian titles are now going on the Mayday Discovery Canada website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.128.41 (talk) 10:44, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

The Candian titles should go up on the season 14 list now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.219.152 (talk) 12:25, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Discovery Canada started listing Mayday as Air Crash Investigation in PVR guides (specifically Rogers) starting with S14E02. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.35.58.112 (talk) 15:21, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

In the alternate titles section, you forgot to put an 'S' in the the title Niki Lauda: Testing the Limits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.219.152 (talk) 10:52, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Original Titles
As the original titles are going up in the 'alternate titles' section, shouldn't they also be going up in the actual list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.69.107.40 (talk) 02:14, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but the editors are not putting them up for some reason.

Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2015
Because the original season 14 titles are now being added to the alternate titles list, they need to go on the actual season 14 list.

2.101.85.10 (talk) 18:42, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —  23:44, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Unprotecting the page
Now that all season 14 episodes and original titles are confirmed, I think the page should be unprotected now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.100.32.199 (talk) 09:24, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2015
Can someone put the Season 14 Canadian titles on the actual season 14 list?

1. Choosing Sides

2. Niki Lauda: Testing the Limits

3. Vanishing Act

4. Sideswiped

5. The Final Push

6. The Death of JFK Jr

7. Concorde - Up in Flames

8. Accident or Assassination

9. No Clear Options

10. Death in the Arctic

11. What Happened to Malaysian 370?

2.100.32.199 (talk) 13:39, 17 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 20:40, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2015
2.100.32.199 (talk) 10:04, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Can someone delete the links for First Air 6560 and the airdate for Malaysian 370 as they are no longer needed?


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 20:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Seasons dates
I believe, the seasons should be dated by the respective release dates as with other TV series or films. MiewEN (talk) 20:58, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Season 15 episodes
We have video proof on YouTube (channel is 'theentsurgeon') that shows there will be an episode on El Al flight 1862 and one on United Express flight 5925. Can we add this to the list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.69.106.148 (talk) 08:39, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Wait until we have source for it, first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.100.20.86 (talk) 09:03, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

We also now have evidence that there will be an episode on Atlantic Airways flight 670. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.69.111.32 (talk) 04:08, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2015
The Season 13 Region 4 DVD will be released on 04/11/2015. Source: http://www.dvdwarehouse.com.au/air-crash-investigations-season-13-5021456207077.html

122.151.81.91 (talk) 03:52, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 * undefinedRed question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. &mdash;Skyllfully (talk &#124; contribs) 05:25, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The release had been added. Thank you. Ramos Can't hear you, TYPE LOUDER!! 17:42, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 September 2015
National Geographic's website states that the first episode of season 15 will air on September 21. The current table states that the air date is TBA, therefore change it to September 21, 2015. http://natgeotv.com/uk/air-crash-investigation


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The subject of this article "Mayday" refers to the Canadian version of the series. The source you cited references the UK version. The air dates may not necessarily be the same.  M w w 1 1 3    (talk) 23:56, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Page Protection
When is the page going to be unprotected?

Its indefinite so it will be protected forever unless someone removes the protection. If you want to edit this page, you must create an account and become Autoconfirmed. Class455fan1 (talk) 19:42, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 November 2015
Hey guys, Season 16 has been confirmed by cineflix rights with 10 episodes! Can someone put it up on the article?

92.16.116.120 (talk) 18:45, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I think we need a better source than that. Stickee (talk) 01:10, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Change link
S13E06 "Into the Eye of the Storm" links to Hurricane Hunters in general, but there's a NOAA Hurricane Hunters article that is more specific to the program that the plane in question was part of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOAA_Hurricane_Hunters Recommending a change of link from Hurricane Hunters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Hunters) to the link above. (I presume there's no link to the specific incident the episode focuses on, which is why it's linked to Hurricane Hunters instead.) 50.135.246.229 (talk) 22:46, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2015
Ntd 1512 (talk) 10:52, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
 * X mark.svg Not done No proper request here Class455fan1 (talk) 12:01, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 November 2015
For all of you NatGeo aviation fanatics, you may of heard of Air Crash Investigations. I'd like to confirm these are the new episodes (out of 10 episodes) of series 15 if you didn't know. 1.United Express 5925 (Beechcraft 1900C) 2.Asiana 214 (Boeing 777-200ER) 3.UPS 006 (Boeing 747-400F) 4.ElAl 1862 (Boeing 747-200F) 5.1961 Ndola DC-6 Crash (Douglas DC-6) 6.Atlantic 670 (BAe 146) 7.Garuda 200 (Boeing 737-400) 8.Spanair 5022 (McDonnell Douglas MD82) 9.Atlantic Southeast 2311 (Embraer 120) 10.TAM 402 (Fokker 100)


 * This would all need a reference from a WP:RS before being put in an article. Note- Imdb and Youtube don't qualify as reliable sources....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:32, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Wait until there's a reliable source for them.

TWG26 (talk) 12:36, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. clpo13(talk) 23:42, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

S13, E11
Cineflix isn't recognizing this ("Getting out Alive") episode any more. Was it only exclusive to Discovery Canada? TheAirplaneGuy (talk) 06:16, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

I was wondering, if they didn't recognize this special episode, then the episode number count would be 129. But in this source, http://www.cineflixproductions.com/news/show/262-Cineflix-s-Mayday-Starts-Production-on-Season-15, it says 130 episodes. Unless I am mistaken, and I may very well be, I think cineflix does recognize the "Getting out Alive" (s13e11) episode. Or does cineflix count the Tenerife disaster as one of the 130 episodes? Someone enlighten me. I notice in the Season 15 section intro text, it mentions 10 or 11 episodes, but the source mentioned earlier here says only 10, shouldn't that be changed? Demrep (talk) 00:01, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

New titles
According to Natgeo, Asiana 214 is called "Terror in San Francisco", while another unnamed flight, presumably ASA 2311, is called "Steep Impact" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.210.68.195 (talk) 22:04, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

http://natgeotv.com/uk/air-crash-investigation/about confirms this so Terror in San Francisco and Steep Impact (ASA 2311, the incident includes an astronaut and a former US senators) have been added. Thanks! Tntad (talk) 1:54, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

season 15 eps
Oh well someone can change this and find evidence for this later but these ARE the titles. S15E01: Fatal Transmission S15E02: Terror in San Francisco S15E03: High Rise Catastrophe S15E04: Fatal Delivery S15E05: Deadly Mystery

just I know for eps 1 -5. Fatal Transmission, Deadly Mystery, and Fatal Delivery are Canadian names. The rest are from Nat Geo. this is not an edit request just for your information :) If someone finds evidence for this later then go ahead, add it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ACIMayday15 (talk • contribs) 05:08, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

More season 15 eps
According to Natgeo.au there is an episode on United Express 5925 (titled "Fatal Transmission") and an episode on El Al 1862 (titled "High Rise Catastrophe"). It also shows that flight 5625 is episode 1, flight 214 is episode 2, flight 1862 is episode 3, and flight 6 is episode 4 (they seem to have mixed up the descriptions). Can someone please add this to the list? 118.210.87.73 (talk) 01:50, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2016
The Garuda 200 episode aired on Janaury 4th. Can someone change the date? 89.243.27.154 (talk) 10:51, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Im not sure what one you're talking about Class455fan1 (talk) 11:01, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Someone changed Janaury 4th to Janaury 5th.
 * Yes check.svg Done. Apologies for the confusion earlier, I was mislead by the source. was right. Class455fan1 (talk) 19:28, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2016
In the El Al 1862 section, can someone change 'A' into 'a' because capital letters always start at the beginning of a sentence.

89.243.27.154 (talk) 21:11, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done /wiae   /tlk  00:25, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

S15E01 and S15E02 air dates
Stop changing the air date for Fatal Transmission and Terror in San Francisco. http://www.natgeotv.com.au/tvguide/?day=2016-01-06 says 6 January 2016 and http://www.natgeotv.com.au/tvguide/?day=2016-01-13 says 13 January 2016 (see 8:30PM for both).

Also I think it has been discussed to not change the air dates of episodes that already aired in English unless it aired before. See previous section. Tntad (talk) 05:19, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Episode names, season 15
The 1961 Ndola United Nations DC-6 crash has been aired in Finland. The episode is called 'Deadly mission'. (not my translation, but read straight out of the screen)

Another episode that has been aired, but not listed at the moment, is called 'Edge of disaster'. The episode is about Atlantic Airways Flight 670. Hhhh80 (talk) 20:29, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Episode titles in Finland follow the original titling (Canada) Hhhh80 (talk) 21:03, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Please provide a link to the source. Tntad (talk) 00:12, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

This is a tough one. Finnish tv-listings are, of course, in Finnish. Maybe a screenshot of the episode showing the episode name.... Hhhh80 (talk) 08:48, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Here is the Finnish tv-listing translated with google translate, I don't know if it's any help https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnatgeotv.com%2Ffi%2Flentoturmatutkinta%2Finfo&edit-text= Hhhh80 (talk) 09:03, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

IMDB info
Should we trust the IMDB info regarding season 15? Or shall that wait?

-January 17, 2016 Marius2003Korn (talk) 20:19, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

IMDB is not permitted on the entire article since it is not a reliable source like YouTube and Dailymotion. If you find a reliable source for the information regarding S15 such as Natgeo, then it should be a decently reliable source. Keep in mind that English sources have priority.Tntad (talk) 22:48, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Australia Season 15 air-dates
Hello all, I just want to point out that the air dates should not change when the episode has already aired for the first time (from English sources like UK and Australia). The NatGeo abouts say when the episode will show on TV next, not always when the episode will first air. If you are unsure about the air date of an episode that already aired, check the TV guide of that particular country AND date to confirm. Please take this into consideration. Thank you and I hope you enjoy this seasons episodes! Tntad (talk) 01:48, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Season 14 Episode Titles
Hey all,

I am really busy ATM and maybe for a long time, but could someone change the titles for Season 14 to the Canadian names listed here: http://www.discovery.ca/Shows/Mayday  Go under season 14 and they are in order from bottom to top. Thanks! Tntad (talk) 14:17, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

I agree, it's been a long time since Season 14 has aired so I think we need to change the UK titles to the usual Canadian titles with the accidents and their descriptions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.83.191 (talk) 15:50, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattChatt18 (talk • contribs) 15:49, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Making Improvements
Just to let you know, I'm free to make any changes when necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattChatt18 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for some of the changes you've made. For next time, please don't list the cause of the episodes before the episode airs. It is not that pleasant for others. I understand you "can" make changes, but please do not change something simply because you "can". I am just asking. Thanks. Tntad (talk) 23:49, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Careening
Twice in the article the word "careering" is used. The correct word should be "careening". Could someone please correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.9.120.32 (talk) 18:50, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

I've done it, mate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattChatt18 (talk • contribs) 09:42, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Crash of the Century
I've got a theory that might explain this 'episode'.

"Crash of the Century" is a separate series, a one episode 'series/program' made in 2005 concurrently alongside Mayday (Air Disaster). It's stand-alone and 120 minutes (actual runtime closer to 128min). Someone must have figured "Since it's about a plane disaster, let's also edit it into the Mayday series with the same look and feel as any other episode." So now we also have a 60 minute (actual runtime 45:20) episode with the same Mayday format causing confusion. Here's my reasoning:

The copyright for 1x02 - Racing the Storm is: 2003, Near-Miss Productions Inc. / Near-Miss Productions (Ontario) Inc. / Galaxie Production / Media Production Services LTD. / France 5.

(Any other season uses Cineflix and Mayday with the season number fairly consistently, however season 3 has the most variability between episodes.)

The copyright for 2x01 - Blow Out is: 2004, Cineflix (Mayday 2) Productions Inc. / NF (Mayday 2) Inc. / Galaxie Production.

The copyright for "Crash of the Century" is: Galaxie Production, / Near-Miss Productions Inc. / Adéladïde Production, 2005.

The copyright for 3x14 - Crash of the Century is: 2005, Near-Miss Productions Inc. / Galaxie Productions / Adéladïde Production.

At the time, the episode typically aired at the end of season 3 (right after Ocean Landing) on Discovery Channel Canada, which is why I numbered it like this. The episode is the only one of the season to use the same copyright as the series (Near-Miss Productions) despite not being used since season 1.

Next is the title sequence: same as the early seasons but applied to the edited episode poorly. By "poorly" I mean the first second is cut off (the audio is noticably desynced) and the font for "MAYDAY" is different from the other pre-season 4 episodes.

Unique to 3x14 is the within-episode discretionary warning. DCC always has its own warning before starting/returning to the show, and never within. This one has its own at the beginning, and narrated by Bogaert.

Like all Mayday episodes, 3x14 is narrated by Bogaert. The 120min series is narrated by Halliley.

Mayday episodes in these early seasons aired on DCC with strict time constraints: 46 minutes to the second. 3x14 stands apart at 45:20 actual runtime. (These restrictions aren't present for their Air Crash counterparts.)

The title sequence does not label it as a "special", but it's also not in the official count of Mayday episodes listed by Cineflix.

Other than that it's a standard Mayday episode with a teaser at the beginning (this does not exist in the "Crash of the Century" program). The early seasons don't appear to be airing at this time, and unknown if 3x14 would air again with them. I happened to have recorded these early ones... I might be the only person that has this unique episode. I don't know about copyright issues but I may be able to upload screenshots and audio clips if needed. Stoikiometry (talk) 02:33, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Deadly Delay?
According to Natgeo.au, the title name for the episode on Spanair 5022 is 'Deadly Delay'. In Australia there is already an episode called Deadly Delay, Avianca 52. It seems odd to have two episodes have the same title, so I suspect that they mixed up the description just like they did with Fatal Delivery. I strongly suspect that Deadly Delay is not the title of the Spanair 5022 episode. 111.69.110.121 (talk) 18:23, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Although they're the same, they just cover different crashes. BTW, Avianca 52 was entitled Missing over New York in Canada, so i think Deadly Delay for Spanair 5022 could be for Canada when we find a source for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.44.230.151 (talk) 18:40, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

I suspected that too at first, but it is the only title available for the episode. I believe that the title for Spanair Flight 5022 will be different for NatGeo UK, but until then, Deadly Delay remains.Tntad (talk) 20:20, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

UK Title for Spanair 5022 is released at https://digiguide.tv/season.asp?id=217939&sid=all. Title has been changed to Fatal Delay.

The show aired under the title of "fatal delay". Can anyone please correct that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.9.120.32 (talk) 18:49, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

When S15E07 aired in the UK on National Geographic, my Virgin Media TiVo picked it up twice so far, once with each title: 2016/03/07 21:00 - Deadly Delay (marked as NEW, so I assume this was the first UK broadcast, especially given that I have it on permanent series link) 2016/03/28 15:00 - Fatal Delay Both episodes appeared identical in content (Spanair 5022) and neither of them carried an on-screen episode title, just to add to the fun. -A.S. 81.109.186.140 (talk) 01:34, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Wrong Type of aircraft
Season 10 (2010)

No 69 / # 3 / Title: Pilot Betrayed

-- Type of aircraft: -- Wrong: McDonnell Douglas MD-81 Right: McDonnell Douglas DC-9 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.85.57.231 (talk) 11:58, 7 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the correction but OY-KHO is a MD-81 refer to the related article, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 12:03, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm not relying on articles, but at the episode itself. I watched the episode and referred to DC-9 not the MD-81 Please watch the episode to confirm the data.


 * The official Swedish accident report says it was an MD-81; Mayday is clearly wrong. YSSYguy (talk) 08:08, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

As this page mentioned in the TV series Mayday and not in airplane accidents, it would be good to place a note, that this episode indicates wrong type of airplane.


 * Television programs make mistakes all the time....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:14, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

I did not understand. Will you place the note or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.85.57.231 (talk) 13:24, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

I suggest we don't put the note on the article because SAS 751 was an MD-81. Also point out that MD-80 aircraft are part of the DC-9 generation, but MD-81 was the OFFICIAL name for SAS 751. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattChatt18 (talk • contribs) 17:11, 10 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Couldn't see any harm in it, so Yes check.svg done YSSYguy (talk) 12:28, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Season 16!
On http://www.natgeotv.com.au/tv/air-crash-investigation/episodes.aspx, the first 3 episodes of season 16 and their air dates are already up. On 12 May 2016 episode 2, titled "Inside 9/11: The Pentagon Attack" features American Airlines Flight 77 and airs at 8:30pm in Australia and New Zealand. On 19 May 2016 episode 3, titled "Disaster at Tenerife", features an unspecified accident. On 26 May 2016 episode 4, titled "Deadly Detail", features an unspecified accident. Also, on http://www.natgeotv.com.au/tv/air-crash-investigation/episodes.aspx?series=15, episode 1 is titled "Deadly Silence" and features the 1999 South Dakota Learjet crash. These need to be added to the page since they are now confirmed. 111.69.108.236 (talk) 07:58, 29 April 2016 (UTC)


 * It's a little thin to be putting in the first two into the article at the moment because at least one of them has been done before as 'Crash of Century'. We don't have enough proof right this minute to say these are new episodes....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 13:05, 29 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I think that there is no doubt from the Australian NatGeo that the 1999 South Dakota Learjet crash (S16E01) and American Airlines Flight 77 (S16E02) are going to be on Season 16. It was like this for Season 15 and 14. I think the first two listed there should be put on the wikipedia article along with the NAMES of the other two along with all 4 airdates. I suspect that S16E03 is the Tenerife accident while S16E04 is China Airlines Flight 120. Although the Tenerife accident was done for "Crash of the Century", keep in mind that it was NOT an official episode and it did not really go into much detail of the investigation. I think we should not be too hasty in dismissing this. Tntad (talk) 17:25, 29 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I have checked the guide for natgeo Australia on my TV at home and it says that episode 1 is airing on Thursday 5th May. I don't know why this isn't said on the website. 111.69.108.236 (talk) 19:06, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that Disaster at Tenerife is a repeat of "Crash of the Century". There have been more than one air accident at Tenerife.Omega13a (talk) 05:55, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

There is a possibility that it will air on May 5th. How about we just wait until they are aired? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattChatt18 (talk • contribs) 14:30, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
 * That's what I think too. Remember Wikipedia is not a cyrstall ball...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:35, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Still, we can add them to the list can't we? Natgeo.au has them listed as a new season, there are confirmed airdates, and also now we have video proof on YouTube. What more could you ask for? 111.69.108.236 (talk) 08:39, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

We are going to wait until there are aired, and then they will be put on the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattChatt18 (talk • contribs) 09:40, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I also want to point out that NatGeo Australia IS a reliable source. It was used for the past two season to determine the episodes. It does seem odd how they are starting the new season a little early, but Seasons 11 and 12 also started earlier. I don't see any reason why we should not put the first two in the page along with only the names of the 3rd and 4th. Tntad (talk) 21:58, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

NatGeo Australia has now postponed the airings just like NatGeo UK did with season 14. Although the airdates are now not known, we can still add the titles and accidents to the page. 111.69.108.236 (talk) 07:55, 5 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Why should something be entered when the source for it isn't reliable. They said the show was going to be aired and then it wasn't. We're not a crystalball....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 09:51, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Very well then, WilliamJE. Let's just wait until Nat Geo UK has it, then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattChatt18 (talk • contribs) 16:32, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

You can't use that as your reasoning either since NatGeo UK has been known to make the exact same errors. I don't know what your problem is. For the past 2 seasons NatGeo Australia has been a reliable source, and now you say it isn't! 111.69.108.236 (talk) 04:58, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Let's just wait until they aired and see what happens. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattChatt18 (talk • contribs) 10:47, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

I live in New Zealand and 'Deadly Silence' just aired (7th June). It did document the Payne Stewart crash as expected. Are you happy enough to add it to the article now? 111.69.107.78 (talk) 08:44, 7 June 2016 (UTC)


 * It should be included in the official page if the first episode already aired. Not to mention that the NatGeoAU has also included videos of the episode. http://www.nationalgeographic.com.au/tv/air-crash-investigation/videos.aspx. Tntad (talk) 16:01, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

I think so too. Go ahead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattChatt18 (talk • contribs) 16:55, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

I'm going to add the first episode on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattChatt18 (talk • contribs) 18:06, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

done — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattChatt18 (talk • contribs) 18:18, 7 June 2016 (UTC)