Talk:List of actors nominated for Academy Awards for non-English performances

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Inclusion
Performances that are majority English and only contain a couple of lines in a foreign language should not be on the list. I am removing some of them. JDDJS (talk) 02:19, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

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Sign language
Should we include performances given in American Sign Language, such as Marlee Matlin in Children of a Lesser God or Sally Hawkins in The Shape of Water? Rinko Kikuchi is already listed for her performance in Japanese Sign Language.Sbb618 (talk) 21:27, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I would be all for including them, but we would have to change the title to "in languages other than English" first because American Sign Language isn't foreign. JDDJS (talk) 22:10, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 * American Sign Language *is* English. How are those performances listed under "non-English performances"? I think it's absurd and offensive. If speaking through voice is the decisive factor here, then all silent performances should also be listed, because I can guarantee you Emil Jannings didn't "speak" any English in The Last Command nor Janet Gaynor in 7th Heaven. Kumagoro-42 (talk) 01:19, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * @Kumagoro-42 Saying American Sign Language is English is absolutely absurd. American Sign Language is it's own language. Nobody considers it to be English. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 16:34, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 24 January 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved. There are no objections. (non-admin closure) В²C ☎ 20:50, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

List of actors nominated for Academy Awards for foreign language performances → List of actors nominated for Academy Awards for non-English performances – This will allow us to include sign language performances in the article, such as Marlee Matlin for Children of a Lesser God and Sally Hawkins for The Shape of Water JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 00:26, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * How about creating a separate list for actors nominated for Sign languages performances/non-speaking roles (such as Holly Hunter in The Piano and Max Von Sydow in Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close) instead of changing the title of this one? Zoolver (talk) 01:24, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * @Zoolver I wouldn't necessarily be oposed to doing that instead. However, what would we name that article? Also, how many entries would it have? JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 17:40, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I found these articles listing the actors nominated for non-speaking roles. Adding the sign language performances, that would make it about 16 actors. The list would be even bigger if we add the actors nominated for silent films from the 20s and 30s. I guess that's enough for a separate list here. I think "List of actors nominated for Academy Awards for Sign language or non-speaking performances", or just "List of actors nominated for Academy Awards for non-speaking performances" would be a good title.


 * https://www.goldderby.com/gallery/silent-oscars-nonspeaking-roles-nominated-academy-awards/
 * https://www.indiewire.com/2017/09/actors-oscar-nominations-disabilities-afflictions-1201879957/
 * https://deafniche.com/comprehensive-oscars/
 * https://www.filmsite.org/bestactress.html
 * https://www.filmsite.org/bestactor.html Zoolver (talk) 21:25, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Support. I was going to oppose on the basis of scope change, but there's already a Japanese sign language nomination in this article already, so I don't see why not. (If the consensus is to split this type of performance into a new article, then the article title should not be changed obviously.) Nohomersryan (talk) 08:01, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Move to List of actors nominated for Academy Awards for non-English performances - less wordy. -- Netoholic @ 08:13, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree that's a better title, so I'm changing the proposal to that. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 11:39, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


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