Talk:List of backmasked messages


 * Addition criteria: If you know of a valid, documented message, go ahead and add it to the correct section (keep the alphabetical order by artist). But no original research - the message must be documented somewhere reliable.

"Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)"
In the middle of this song played backwards, there is an incredible solo by Beyonce that sounds like Adhan, the call to prayers in Islamic faith.

"Gotta Find a Way"
The earliness makes this very important. This comment here seems to validate it: "Has anyone ever listened to the backward masking portion of "Gotta Find a Way" backwards and know what it says? It's the third earliest example of backwards masking I know of, preceded only by The Mothers of Invention "Hot Poop" and The Beatles "Revolution #9"."  Λυδ α cιτγ  04:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

"Find the Answer Within"
At the end of the Boo Radleys song "Find the Answer Within" from the album Wake Up!, one or two messages are deliberately inserted backwards (no lyrics at the end of the song make it really easy to notice). One said, "If you like a lot of fun (it could be saying fight, I really couldn't get it any clearer), join our fan club." The other said, "Have you seen the little doggies, doing doggy style?" You can hear these both repeated from about 0:15 to 1:15 when reversed. I just haven't been able to find any sources supporting it, other than just reversing the song and listening, though. Can anyone back me up with a source on this? Torpov 04:20, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure it says "If you like a lot of fighting in your football, join our club." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.120.20 (talk) 22:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

"Stormbringer"
 Λυδ α cιτγ  02:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

"When Heaven Burns"
Sounds real.  Λυδ α cιτγ  01:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

"Change the Channel"
 Λυδ α cιτγ  02:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

"Moby Dick"
There may be others, less clear. —Tamfang (talk) 03:20, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

"Now is Forever"
Was apparently cited at the above link, which now redirects (anyway, lyrics sites are copyvio). -Audacity 05:14, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

"Stimulate"
Cited at the lyrics site.  Λυδ α cιτγ  05:14, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

"Sadeness"
Lyrics found here, and inversion done with "Reverse" in GoldWave. -ExNoctem 18:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

"This City Never Sleeps"
//aktalo 18:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)


 * to listen. //aktalo 19:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Also documented here. //aktalo 20:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

"U Can't Touch This"
U Can't Touch This was MC Hammer's most widely-known single, propelling sales of its album, Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em, which for a time was the best-selling rap album of all time.

"Venus (In Our Blood)"
Accepted in forums such as this one.  Λυδ α cιτγ  05:31, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

"House of Horrors"
 Λυδ α cιτγ  02:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

"Message of Love"
Plausible.  Λυδ α cιτγ  18:21, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

"Message of Love"
 Λυδ α cιτγ  02:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

"Enjoy the Silence"
Sounds real.  Λυδ α cιτγ  11:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Example #22
It's obvious enough that I investigated it myself, all those years ago, by taking a tape cassette apart. —Tamfang (talk) 17:42, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

"Hung Up"
(Henningklevjer 17:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC))

"December is for Cynics"
Detailed here.  Λυδ α cιτγ  03:45, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

"Mic Commander"
Shown in (copyvio) lyric sites like this one.  Λυδ α cιτγ 

"Avoid the Light"
Given as an example here; also came up at sing365 (an illegal lyrics site).  Λυδ α cιτγ  01:35, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

"Tiger"
—Tamfang (talk) 21:12, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

"Outside the Wall"
(Henningklevjer 17:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC))

Actually, it's the (forwards) words "Isn't this where -" and gets cut off. It's the last moment on the last track of The Wall. The very beginning of "In The Flesh?" (the first song in The Wall) is the words "-we came in?" and generally the same music. It's supposed to indicate that the story of The Wall is circular rather than linear - the album can ostensibly be played on a continuous loop.--24.90.2.111 03:08, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

"Mother"
Ted 05:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

"Guitarras De Amor"
Talked about here.  Λυδ α cιτγ  03:04, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

"Deadwing"
I was listening to the Porcupine Tree album "Deadwing" the other day and I heard some deliberately reversed vocals in the song "Shallow". I reversed it in Sound Studio, but I can't exactly make out what he's saying... "Afterwards, uh... I guess I'll just...?" It's at about 2:57 (backwards time). Can anybody confirm / find a citation for this? Zackarotto 22:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

I checked this just then, it's a little difficult to make out the last word or so but it's definitely there. S'pose we'll need to find a citation though... Demonofthefall 12:04, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

"In Held 'Twas In I"
Mentioned, but not described, here.  Λυδ α cιτγ  23:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

"Dr. Mabuse"
Mentioned at a bunch of lyrics sites.  Λυδ α cιτγ  02:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

"Headlong"
 Λυδ α cιτγ  02:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

it is said 4 times, but not backwards, that is seriously said forwards 24.223.154.154 (talk) 02:57, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

"Taste the Pain"
Noted here.  Λυδ α cιτγ  23:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

"Everything is Cool"
I get no Google hits on this, but I'm positive it's a legitimate instance of backmasking, since Scott Klopfenstein is one of the singers and instrumentalists of RBF. Anyone else come across this yet? Warrenm (talk) 21:49, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

"Change the Channel"
Mentioned at the forum above.  Λυδ α cιτγ  22:50, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

"Pharao"
Seems to be described here.  Λυδ α cιτγ  04:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

"Change"
 Λυδ α cιτγ  02:10, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

"No Surrender 2005"
You can hear it at ytmnd (tnawrestlingsubliminalmessage) - but I don't think ytmnd is a reliable source.  Λυδ α cιτγ  18:19, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

"Smokey Roads"
—Tamfang (talk) 00:39, 11 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Speculation about its significance. —Tamfang (talk) 19:18, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

"Freezing Vertigo"
Sound real.  Λυδ α cιτγ  18:19, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

"There Will Be No Armageddon"
Sounds real.  Λυδ α cιτγ  23:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * How should I verify this one? I couldn't find one single citation about that message, although it is clearly audible. It's a stupid thing to wait for someone else to make the first step. - Jack's Revenge 01:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd love to just put all these messages in. But we're restricted by one policy: WP:OR. There's no way around it (except for starting your own website).  Λυδ α cιτγ  01:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

"Passion" and "Sanctuary"
Referenced here; discussed in many forums; but I can't find a good source that actually details the backwards messages.  Λυδ α cιτγ  18:39, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

"Anti-Satan Song For Mom"
Sounds real.  Λυδ α cιτγ  23:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

"Beautiful Death"
Mentioned at a bunch of lyrics sites.  Λυδ α cιτγ  18:39, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * }

removed in February 2020 by Sundayclose
"not in the sources cited" (or similar reasons) according to. —Tamfang (talk) 05:01, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

removed in March 2020 by Sundayclose
Removed for relying on fan sites and the like. —Tamfang (talk) 00:33, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Misc.

 * My two cents: The backmask on "Skin Ticket" (Slipknot) is accidental; forwards, it's "Keeping myself alive", and the backwards message is supposedly "I love myself". (Mininal) info on the "Skin Ticket" backmask here, along with a sample As for "Socio", keep an eye on Talk:Come What(Ever) May for more info. --Djwings (talk) 09:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

I listened to "Locomotive Breath" and "Justify My Love" backward without hearing anything clear. —Tamfang (talk) 03:16, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Didn't stop someone from adding "Justify My Love" since the last time I looked. —Tamfang (talk) 07:05, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Nothing clear in "Hypnotize". —Tamfang (talk) 20:56, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Nor in "Fox on the Run". —Tamfang (talk) 19:16, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Steve Vai - Whookam (on the real article)
Listen to the real track, do not rely on the official lyrics. I hear the song says: "Jesus cries, living at little black holes in our souls" + more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.234.206.50 (talk) 20:07, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


 * This guy's right. The lyrics on the page aren't at all the lyrics in the song. The song is actually mainly made up of different samples of Devin Townsend's singing on Vai's previous album, Sex and Religion. I think it goes:
 * Well Jesus Christ


 * When we got little black holes in our souls


 * and all our feelings are




 * What can you know about love


 * From the eyes of a child to the heavens above


 * but all




 * (choir vocals)




 * Holy Mary, mother of god, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb


 * (deep voice followed by breaking glass)


 * And that's the end of the song. I'm about 99% sure that I'm right. Knotrice (talk) 05:26, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

A few more
Some others that need more details and/or references. I recall that one of the tracks on Robert Fripp's album Exposure has a snippet of speech from the first episode of Monty Python ("One thing is for sure, the sheep is not a creature of the air"); sadly, I cannot remember which track. Similarly, there is an early Tangerine Dream track with backmasked instructions on how to apply for a passport to travel to the UK. Cluster's track "Tzima n'arki" contains Brian Eno reciting lyrics from "Kings Lead hat", plus a few other words (the track's title is also an interpretation of the word "Economist" spoken backwards, IIRC). Grutness...wha?  00:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Found a reference to the first one.Grutness...wha? 
 * The Tangerine Dream one is the last track from Electronic Meditation, but still no references found... Grutness...wha?  08:23, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Reorganise!
This page needs thorough reorganisation, as at the moment it is very difficult to edit. I'd like to suggest splitting the one massive table into separate tables for each letter of the alphabet, and moving artists so that they are alphabetised properly - i.e., by surname where appropriate. Frank Zappa should be under Z, not F, for instance. Grutness...wha?  01:05, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Tech N9ne
There are several cases of this artist reversing lyrics in his songs. However, the trouble is that since he's an "underground" artist, there's no real reliable citation covering these cases. The most prominent case would probably be his "Trapped in a Psycho's Body" which was released on his Absolute Power album. The chorus was played in reverse on this release, but was later released in original non-reversed form on his Vintage Tech compilation. On said compilation, he does introductions to each song at the end of the song proceeding it, where he openly admits to reversing the chorus due to being unable to clear the original with Donna Summer. (see: here)

Another perfect example would be the title track from his Absolute Power album, where the intro to the song is in reverse. It's the only one that I've found mentioned through searching Google on something other than Youtube or some forum. BackmaskOnline has this case listed on their site (see: here), however I'm unsure of the reliability of this as a source. I seem to recall seeing this site listed before as being unreliable. The "spoilers" for this song look a little off to me, which doesn't lend itself to being taken as a reliable source, sadly.

Outside of that, there are numerous other cases, such as "Freaky" which was released on the Vintage Tech compilation, "Dr. Frazier's Office (Intro)" from his Killer album, another case on Absolute Power in the form of the "Imma Tell" intro having a small reversal, and "My World" from Everready (The Religion) having a reversal in the chorus leading into and coming out of the third (his) verse.

Each of these are plain as day and not simply a case of phonetic reversal (which he has also been known to take a stab at), but as stated, aside from countless videos on Youtube demonstrating these... I've got nothing. Is his admittance of a reversal of the "Trapped in a Psycho's Body" chorus enough for inclusion? Where does BackmaskingOnline's credibility stand on being used as a source on this page? Perhaps some of your more interested in this subject know of some reliable sources that cover the subject of backmasking that may dig into these cases (and in turn, provide us with reliable sources regarding them), or simply ones that may have mentioned these, but have been pushed back a hundred pages on Google thanks to Youtube, haha.

Either way, figured I would at least put these on the radar of some of you, in hopes that at some point there is a strong enough case to include them on the page. Mizery Made ( talk  ·  contribs ) 01:00, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Which word is more correct?
I've recently removed a similar row about the song (No Anchovies, Please), as there should not be two rows about the same song. Just to let you know, in the line "It doesn't take a genius to tell the difference between chicken shit and chicken salad" (I assume it is 'tell'), is the underlined word "know" or "tell"? Merlion 444  19:22, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Voice of the Beehive
Anybody have any info on the backwards message during the instrumental break for Voice of the Beehive's "I'm Shooting Cupid? DanTD (talk) 22:24, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Tonight's post of an Angelfire, Egyptian and David Icke forum websites 2010-05-27
Angelfire is not a reliable site as it is a host site and subject to the whims of whomever posts a file or text there. The Egyptian website is not a WP:SOURCES website or repected journal like Scientific American. It is the rambling thoughts of somebody talking either to a friend or reporter. As for the David Icke forum, nope. This addition will be reverted. moreno oso (talk) 07:08, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

LET'S PLEASE ADDRESS THE NOT-ACTUALLY-BACKMASKED-MESSAGES ISSUE.
I've tried deleting these but this seems to be coming up over and over again: contributors continue to insert "examples" of backmasked messages which are in fact just plain-old regularly recorded messages that sound vaguely like words when played backwards. I don't care how much these messages sound like like "Turn me on, dead man" or "Sleep with me, I'm not too young;" anything can be played backwards and be interpreted as vaguely sounding like something else. If the message forward is far more comprehensible than the backwards message, it's probably not legit. If it's gibberish backwards and clear speech backwards, it probably is. Let us please not let this article pass off rumor, the pseudoscience of reverse speech, and other such coincidences of pareidolia as fact.--74.64.55.65 (talk) 17:24, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There's a process called "deletion". Please employ that process instead of complaining here. Cresix (talk) 23:10, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * God forbid the problem be discussed. But it's good seeing that I'm not the only contributor you've been unnecessarily overbearing with. PurpleChez (talk) 03:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Adding Utada Hikaru
I would like to suggest to add J-Pop singer Utada Hikaru to this list. She uses back masking on purpose in her Song "Passion/Sanctuary".

As it is written in the wiki entry for "Passion":

"Sanctuary", like "Passion", includes several instances of reversed lyrics throughout the song; these lyrics are the only official backwards lyrics. Played throughout the song are the lyrics "I need more affection than you know" in the "battleground" stanza, as well as the phrases "So many ups and downs" and "I need true emotions". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.25.90.65 (talk) 15:14, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * ❌ - Please provide a reliable source for this information. Cresix (talk) 16:26, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Won Ton On/No Not Now
I changed the source cited for this entry to a website that is already providing an apparently acceptable reference for another entry in this same list. I will seek out others as necessary. PurpleChez (talk) 03:10, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The source does not identify the backmasked messages that you state. In other words, regardless of whether the source is reliable, your edit fails verification by the source. Cresix (talk) 15:11, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * OK...that's actually some constructive input. So what I think you're saying is that in addition to a source stating that "Won Ton On" is "No Not Now" in reverse you would also like to see a source confirming that the "messages" include such phrases as "Epsom salts...maybe later...etc." At least that's what I'm taking from your statement. But if you would please clarify something for me... the source (which, as we've discussed, is apparently considered reliable elsewhere in the same article) does in fact confirm the information that it was tagged to, i.e. that Song B was Song A played backwards. Can that statement be confirmed by that reliable source, just so long as the statement in the "messages" column is substantiated by another reliabe source? PurpleChez (talk) 16:56, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * My major concern is that the actual backmasked messages are reliably sourced. I don't have any problem with the source that you most recently cited, but if the backmasked messages can't be sourced, there's no point in adding the item. Note also that the backmasking must be detailed in the source itself, not simply by the user listening to a sound file in reverse. Cresix (talk) 18:13, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for sounding dense...I just want to make sure that we're on the same page...when you say "message" you mean the "transcript" in (I think) the third column that tells what you would hear if you played the backmasked bit backwards...am I right? How would this be...you're saying that the source I've already used, which states that Won Ton On is indeed No Not Now played backwards, is OK...with that established, would a source confirming the lyrics of the original (No Not Now) be sufficient to confirm that that is what one would hear if they played the backmasked bit backwards, essentially reproducing the original "frontwards" song? (Sorry for all the silliness about "playing the backwards parts backwards"!) Thanks again for any info...this is also contributing indirectly to what I hope will be some major improvements to another "list" article I'm working with.... PurpleChez (talk) 20:53, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Duh..."message" is what is reproduced in the column titled "message"... Don't mind me.... PurpleChez (talk) 21:01, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I've never actually listened to any of the songs (although that is beside the point if it is reliably sourced), but just because something is spelled backward does not mean that it is heard that way when played backward (i.e., playing "No not now" doesn't necessarily render "Won ton on" auditorily). The source uses the phrase "a backward version of"; does that mean the entire song is played backward? Even if it does, is there a backmasked message that can be heard? That needs clarification. Cresix (talk) 22:00, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I see what you're getting at...and I see how it might have been unclear to someone who isn't familiar with "Thing-Fish." While "Won Ton On" is of course "No Not Now" spelled backwards, the "song" itself is also dialog spoken over an extended, backmasked replay of "No Not Now," so that both the title and the actual audio are both backwards. I'll make sure that the reference, as well as any addition to the list, are clear on this. Also...could you comment on my note farther up about the formatting of this page below the "Beatles" comment? Thanks again. PurpleChez (talk) 23:06, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

New page for backmasking by The Beatles?
Due to the amount of backwards messages in Beatles songs I suggest we have a separate page only for Backmasking in Beatle music, with a link at the top of this one guiding people to just The Beatles backmasking.


 * Much (most? all?) of the Beatles examples don't qualify for this list because they only sound like something else when you play them backwards..."turn me on, dead man," "I buried Paul." I think most of the bits that can actually be shown to be an original, frontwards recording played in reverse are already cited here.
 * I take (some of) that back...I think there is backmasked instrumental bits in "I'm Only Sleeping." And I think "Becuase" features Bach played backwards, althogh rather than being backmasked it might have been that they acutally performed the score backwards. PurpleChez (talk) 23:13, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Also...the entries below are obviously not intended to be subsections of this Beatles-related entry. Would it be acceptible to correct that, or do you leave "talk" entries as-is? PurpleChez (talk) 21:10, 25 March 2011 (UTC)


 * The subsections resulted from improper placement of this section between a heading and a subheading; thus, I moved it all to the bottom.
 * I don't see a need for a separate Beatles page, but if someone wants to create a proposed version in a user sandbox with a link here for us to look at, go ahead. But don't waste your time by adding a bunch of unsourced crap. Cresix (talk) 02:17, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I haven't actually checked sources but I've only been able to think of one additional Beatles song that would be appropriate for this list...certainly not enough to justify a separate article. Even a small handful of others could easily be accomodated here. People are probably thinking of all that "Paul is dead" stuff that sounds sort of like something if you really, really use your imagination.... PurpleChez (talk) 15:57, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Um, why are "I'm So Tired" and "Revolution 9" listed here? Neither of those tracks have actual reversed messages that The Beatles decided to put in. They're both just parts of the songs that paranoid people thought sounded like words when played backwards. You can do that with any song, it doesn't matter that there are "citations". I'm deleting them both but leaving the ones for "Rain" and "Free as a Bird" since those songs are examples of actual deliberate backmasking used by The Beatles.219.89.227.73 (talk) 00:20, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Lucifer 9 (interlude)
dj danger mouse. search anywhere. clearly audible back masked lyrics —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.177.76.4 (talk) 10:40, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
 * dj danger mouse. will not search anywhere. provide reliable source. your opinion not reliable source. Cresix (talk) 16:09, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Terry S. Taylor's Imaginarium
The song "Chiming In" of Terry Scott Taylor's Imaginarium: Songs from the Neverhood is in reverse. In reverse says "Ok go! You ready?" and "Play it again". Sources: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu94gt2Irco http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhmswrngTtE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.221.111.220 (talk) 03:06, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * YouTube is generally, not a reliable source, this being one of those instances. This is a WP:SPS that does not establish the notability of the information that is being inserted into the article, thus failing WP:WEIGHT. - SudoGhost 23:21, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * But this song does not have as many references as the other songs, try listening to the song yourself. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Trivia/TheNeverhood --190.221.111.220 (talk) 23:38, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia articles are not a complete exposition of all possible details. If it isn't reliable sourced by an independent, third-party source, it doesn't belong in the article.  The information must be documented somewhere reliable. - SudoGhost 13:31, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Iced Earth- Damien does state it
It does state that "You have done nothing" actually is the end of it.I have a video proving that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjWcVdaF99s Even read comments below on proof it is true: http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/76074/ I also have a suggestion too but i dunno if i should type it out.You're welcome for the helpNavexelac (talk) 05:58, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

The Beatles
Rain: "Rain... If the rain comes, they run and hide their heads" / (NOT when the rain comes!) It must be "If" Böri (talk) 10:12, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

source reliability
I have added the entry for Franco Battiato's "Shock in my town". User Sundayclose reverted my edit twice with this explanation:

"(rv. You -provide no THIRD-PARTY source from which you transcribe, only your personal interpretation of how it sounds. What you hear and what I hear could be different, especially backward. EVERY item in this article has a reliable third-party source.)"

My answer:

1- I think that no third party source is required for most entries in this article because of WP:Translation policy (expanded in WP:NOTOR essay). I agree that some cases may be questionable and being explained by pareidolia, but this is not the case. The reversed audio is clearly understandable and any person that understands Italian language and is able to use an audio editor can verify it. Note also that the sentence is present also in the normal direction in the same song, and it is really unlikely that this is a coincidence.

2- If other editors insist for reliable third-party sources, I note that the sources for many other entries are very questionable, some examples:

'http://www.ccsg.it/page2.html' (An anonymous site that reports subliminal messages virtually everywhere)

'alt.fan.frank-zappa FAQ, version 2.2' (a FAQ of a newsgroup)

'music.tetrap.com' (A personal site).

I think that these and some others should be removed. It is better to rely on the primary source.

3- If Sundayclose insists considers the aforementioned sources reliable, note that the first supports also my entry. you can add it.

Tcp-ip (talk) 18:45, 13 January 2015 (UTC) 18:45, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * 1. "The reversed audio is clearly understandable and any person that understands Italian language and is able to use an audio editor can verify it": Not to my co-worker whose native language is Italian. It is only "clearly understandable" in your opinion. ANYTHING that is challenged on Wikipedia must be cited to a third party source, or supported by clear consensus on this talk page. Don't revert again without a proper citation or a clear consensus.
 * 2. WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is not a rationale for adding more unsupported information. Feel free to remove, but don't add without providing a source. And primary sources are NEVER preferred. That's the way it works on the English Wikipedia. And by the way, in English there is a clear difference between "subliminal message" and "backmasked message"; look up the terms.
 * 3. Per WP:BURDEN it is the responsibility of the editor adding or restoring to provide an appropriate citation. That's also the way it works on the English Wikipedia Sundayclose (talk) 04:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

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"God is a woman"
Listening to God is a woman backwards you can hear "Lucifer Kill the boy", it should be added to the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diegomoontoya (talk • contribs) 22:02, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 * We need a reliable source for that. Sundayclose (talk) 00:43, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Addition to list
Artist - Billy Joel Album - Kontsert Message - Billy: "Stop lighting the audience! Let me do my show for Christ sake! — Leave him alone! CPepin73 (talk) 20:53, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * . We need a reliable source for that. And please don't link a video of the song. That's original research because it is your personal interpretation of what you hear. The source must clearly identify the backmasking. Read WP:RS for what a reliable source is. Sundayclose (talk) 22:44, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The source is the vinyl record. How'd you suppose we put that in? CPepin73 (talk) 00:29, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The vinyl record is not a reliable source because AGAIN that's your personal interpretation of what you hear. Look at all of the entries in the article. The actual song is never the source. And again, thoroughly read WP:RS before continuing with this request. Until you do that and give us an actual reliable source, you're wasting your time. Sundayclose (talk) 00:47, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * There are multiple entries without a citation for a source on them. How is this any different? CPepin73 (talk) 05:20, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * First of all, you're wrong. There are not "multiple entries without a citation". If I've overlooked one or two, let me know, but don't exaggerate and say it's "multiple". Secondly, "other crap exists" is not an excuse to add more crap. Feel free to remove or fix problems, but don't think that confers some special status on you to edit any way you wish. AGAIN, read WP:V and WP:RS. Until you do that and provide a reliable source, I'm finished here. So far you've been a colossal waste of time. Sundayclose (talk) 13:22, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * That's kind of rude considering I'm trying to contribute relevant information to this page. Here's something for you. The information is unverifiable. I've turned Google inside out. There are no published citations for this. It's just common knowledge among Billy Joel fans. CPepin73 (talk) 17:29, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It isn't rude to request that you follow a core policy of Wikipedia. What's rude is wasting others' time by refusing to get the point. If something is unverifiable, then it doesn't go in Wikipedia. We don't add something based on your personal speculation. This is not a blog. It is not your personal website. It's an encyclopedia. If everyone added anything they want, Wikipedia would be a chaotic, jumbled mess. Move on. Go waste your time at www.fandom.com. It's loaded with unsourced crap. This is my last comment unless you provide a reliable source. Sundayclose (talk) 18:21, 11 April 2023 (UTC)