Talk:List of heaviest people

New entry for the Top 3
August 2013 - [http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Saudi+man+weighing+96+stone+airlifted+to+hospital Saudi man weighing 96 stone airlifted to hospital his name is Corey Mcpherson he is fat ]. If that weight is confirmed then we have a new No. 2. 92.29.18.107 (talk) 15:18, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

What about Renee Williams? She is not on this list. MessiahsWife (talk) 21:00, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Conversions
All of the conversions to kilograms are incorrect, 1 lb=0.45359237 kg. And yes, various unconfirmed cases have been included; starting with Carol Yager, who's weight has never been verified by Guinness World Records – though they did recognize an earlier weight of 1,189 lb (539 kg) for her.

Shouldn't there be separate categories for men and women, with different minimum weights?

Well done Goveli (talk) 20:07, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Maybe remove the links
Perhaps we should remove the links to articles that dont exist?

Deleted info
This was a large block of text deleted from the article. It has no reference material but still could be useful if verified. --The_stuart 17:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Walter Hudson (1944? - 1991) of Hempstead, NY (born in Brooklyn, NY); 5 ft 10 in, measured at 1197 lbs (though the industrial scale broke in the process of weighing him). His chest was measured at 106 inches, his waist at 110. Hudson was discovered by the press in 1987, when he became wedged in the door of his bedroom and had to be cut free by rescue workers. An agoraphobic, he'd spent most of the past 27 years in bed. Hudson lived with his family, where his appetite was always indulged, and gave every indication that he was content with both his weight and his situation. "I just ate and enjoyed it," he said. Despite his massive size, Newsday reported that he was extraordinarily healthy: his heart, lungs, and kidneys all functioned normally, while astonished doctors noted that his cholesterol and blood-sugar levels "showed the chemistry of a healthy 21-year-old." Even so, activist-turned-nutritionist Dick Gregory managed to convince Hudson that losing weight was necessary to save his life. Gregory used Hudson to promote his Bahamian Diet, and claimed that his protegé lost at least 200 lbs (sometimes claiming as much as 800 lbs) under his care, but when Hudson refused to perform for the cameras on cue, Gregory summarily abandoned him. Other celebrities and diet promoters also claimed to have helped him lose massive amounts of weight, though Newsday noted that Hudson never seemed to look any thinner. (Gregory threatened to sue his rivals for $50 million.) Hudson himself gave conflicting stories, sometimes claiming to weigh as little as 480 lbs or as much as 1400. He only allowed himself to be weighed once. Hudson died in his sleep after years of intermittent starvation dieting, a few weeks after announcing wedding plans. His body was found to weigh 1125 lbs, and his massive coffin required twelve pallbearers.
 * Walter Hudson already has his own article. Maybe the deleted info could be incorporated into that? Roaming27 21:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Threshold
Comment via Articles for deletion/List of the heaviest people. I voted Keep, but 1000 lbs seems rather arbitrary and modern-biased. Particularly, it excludes the famously obese Daniel Lambert. Tearlach 01:02, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

And the shortest lifespan?
The guy who lost the most weight!! Check it out!! He didn't even make 20 and he lost 500+lbs; the rest, apart from the very most excessive, seemed to have broadly average lifespans (50-70+ years)

Dieting is worse than being even THIS fat?!!!


 * If you're referring to lifespan, yes, sometimes... despite the inherent health risks of being massively obese, crash dieting can be even worse... you'll note many stories of the mega-obese where they end up dying due to complications with losing the weight, rather than ccomplications caused by being that weight in the first place. Moral of the story I guess is it's better to avoid getting there in the first place, but be careful about how yo go about losing it.  75.70.123.215 (talk) 06:36, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

1,234 pound Man
Probably should include this: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070720210958.nxif5zgw&show_article=1. - MSTCrow 02:13, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * For the record -- link is to Manuel Uribe -- now included. - Fayenatic (talk) 17:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Rosalie Bradford: Which weight is correct?
This article says Ms. Bradford's peak weight was 1053 pounds, but the article all about her states her peak weight as 1199 pounds. Which one is correct?

T.J. Albert Jackson
Where is T.J. "Fat" Albert Jackson? He was Guinness Record holder for most obese alive for many years. I understand he lost weight, though, and got himself under 600.--Scottandrewhutchins 18:14, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Discrepancies
First of all, Janice Johnson did NOT weight 1000 lbs! She was some smokin hot, skinny bassist!

And second, I found a complete chart of 1000-pounders. http://valuewiki.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/fatlist.png

Savvy10 (talk) 18:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

American Diet
Apart from the Mexican Manuel Uribe, it is worth noting that every individual on the list is from the USA. Speaks volumes about our diet. In fact, Uribe's weight increase accelerated when he came to live in the USA. He moved back to Mexico to change his diet, but it was too late.


 * It is notable that these people are mostly quite recent. Unfortunately there are far more grossly obese people now than ever before. Even only 50 years ago, such obesity was virtually unknown. But to get back to a proper topic for a talk page, are there any records of larger people from previous centuries?203.184.41.226 (talk) 05:45, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Mark Minch
I remember seeing him featured on a TLC obesity show, and the doctors estimating his weight to be 1400 lbs. I found mention of him in two articles:   Is he mention-worthy for the list? Johnbiggs (talk) 21:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Peak weight not confirmed
For the "number one" person here it says that the Peak weight is not confirmed. If that is so, why the hell do we have this person listed AT ALL??? This seems like a horrible WP:BLP trainwreck to me, I don't care if some of the people are living and some are not. This is still horrible. JBsupreme (talk) 09:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree, it should be removed if the weight was unconfirmed. 64.229.176.75 (talk) 18:57, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Her weight of 1,200 lb is confirmed, so I restored her entry there. Her article still mentions the higher alleged weight, but with proper context of the source of that number. -- Amalthea Talk 19:24, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Were they really all American?
Unsurprising I suppose. Rwxrwxrwx (talk) 08:41, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

lol Abelzaal (talk) 09:54, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

They can't all be American, I'd wager there must be people as heavy in some other countries 24.154.94.169 (talk) 17:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks like 10 of 11. I see I wasn't the only one to notice this. 71.248.115.187 (talk) 22:26, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

"See Also?"
Why are Billy and Benny McCrary, Edward Bright and Daniel Lambert all listed under "See Also?" All of their weights seem to be verifiable and over 500 pounds, so why aren't they actually included in the list itself? Esprix (talk) 16:46, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The Most Fat People In The World — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.101.40.102 (talk) 15:10, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 5 December 2012
John "big Mac" Johnson 1983 - present Pheonix Arizona 2,012 pounds

72.198.61.143 (talk) 23:25, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Rivertorch (talk) 08:30, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

It would have been necessary to provide a link or other evidence for this request. And, on the other hand, it wasn't a good idea to "edit" the request, too. --Krawunsel (talk) 10:56, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Mayra Rosales and Carol Haffner
The link below describes her peak weight at 1,100lbs, and the documentary about her shows her weighing in at over 1100lbs as well.

http://www.crushable.com/2012/09/21/entertainment/tlc-half-ton-killer-true-story-mayra-rosales-obese-crush-nephew-facts-275/

Also, what about Carol Haffner at 1,023lbs?

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1995-03-01/features/9503010120_1_oxygen-tank-north-carolina-hospital-bed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.149.122 (talk) 19:25, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Rosales weight in pounds should be about 1030 pounds, not 1000 pounds. Should not weigh less in pounds than the next lower person in the list.71.207.162.156 (talk) 00:09, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Proposed No. 2 for the list
Twenty-two years old Khalid Mohsen Shaeri, weighing 610-kilogram, had to be extracted from the second floor of an apartment building with the use of a forklift. He was then flown to Riyadh on board a special plane, accompanied by a special medical team, and taken to the King Fahd Medical City (KFMC) for treatment.

http://www.arabnews.com/news/461794 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ar.makkawi (talk • contribs) 00:38, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed... there's a video over here, too. Esn (talk) 16:30, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Alison
Impossible to know, but the author of this blog might be one of the heaviest women who ever lived. I was unable to determine her full name or much about her, except a first name of Alison and a location of Plymouth, England, and an age of approximately 25 if she is still alive.

http://alisonsgut.blogspot.com/

Chutznik (talk) 00:55, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Catrina Raiford?
According to this article, Catrina Raiford weighed 995 pounds before her weight loss surgery. (I think there may be many people that weigh this much that go unknown.)

http://www.gofundme.com/7my5x8 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1000:B00A:1B5B:B997:923A:854F:3424 (talk) 12:41, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Renee T. Scarfa 1800lbs?
I have heard of a woman called Renee T. Scarfa who is said to have weighed 1800lbs. She passed away in 2008 at the age of 49. She is mentioned in several internet sources that I have listed below. I have no idea how accurate the listed sources are but if they are reliable she deserves to be at the top of the list.

Femalefeeder (talk) 18:20, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Buster Simcus
He's listed as number 1 in this ranking based on one source (Weekly World News). The source is highly questionable, and I can find no other mention of Buster's existence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:9:1F80:6E3:58C4:960:A74C:D3AF (talk) 06:38, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Succession box at Jon Brower Minnoch
There's a succession box at Jon Brower Minnoch which currently shows Francis John Lang preceding Minnoch as "Heaviest person ever recorded" and lists Minnoch as "Heaviest person ever recorded 1941-1983", 1941 being when he was born. Perhaps editors watching this page can help. I've opened a new talk-page section at Talk:Jon Brower Minnoch. NebY (talk) 11:23, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2015
Lindsay mendeleson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.24.128.170 (talk) 15:32, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Sean Milliken (Max 1003lb)
From a recent TLC program. He was weighed in hospital. Seems legit.

www.examiner.com/article/my-600-lb-life-takes-viewers-on-sean-s-story-on-tlc

Dyaimz (talk) 07:51, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Patrick Deuel
Death date not entered into list, but on personal page. Jesswuvs2laf (talk) 03:01, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

New Entry in the list
Abdul Jabbar

38 years old

weight: 490 KG

Nationality: Pakistani

City: Karachi

Reported on ARY News Pakistan on 1st September 2016 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 43.245.204.73 (talk) 07:48, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Strange numbers and letters
The lead says "(970 lb; 69 st 4 lb)." What is 69 st 4 lb.?? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:44, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * A stone is a unit of weight, equal to 14 pounds. Maproom (talk) 08:20, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * For interest, Anna, Stones have been a common unit of human weight in the UK (and, consequently, elsewhere in what is now the Commonwealth) for very many years. Despite the recent introduction of Metric weights, middle-aged and older Brits like myself invariably think of our weight in stones and pounds, and would have to stop and do mental arithmetic to convert to pounds only, while most of us probably have no clue what our weight in kilos is. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.212.15.178 (talk) 11:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Eman Ahmed is a woman - check the article!
Can someone please fix this? This seems to be a protected article. 159.153.4.51 (talk) 22:42, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Eman Ahmed Incorrect Information
Currently, Eman Ahmed is listed as "1100 lbs; 100 st 0 lb," but 1100 lbs is actually 78 st 8 lb. Since this article is protected, can someone look into fixing this, please? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.223.105.106 (talk) 19:09, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Page move
Should this be moved to "List of heaviest people"?

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:21, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

new entry
As seen in the 2018 Guiness World Records, the world's heaviest man is Juan Pedro Franco who was at his peak 1,311 pounds. He should be added to this list. -Mr krabs 993

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See also (fix/format)
The Fattest Man in Britain needs to be corrected in this sentence: Barry Austin and Jack Taylor, two obese British men documented in the comedy-drama The Fattest Man in Britain. 2600:1702:1690:E10:9C40:1339:5A58:3BD4 (talk) 22:44, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Problematic disambiguation terms
I cannot find this in the guidelines. Here are two problematic disambiguation terms:


 * Robert Butler (obesity)
 * Walter Hudson (1944–1991)

What if the term is pejorative?

Do we use birth and death dates?

What should be done here?

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:22, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * What should be done? I'd say "nothing".
 * Neither of the words "heaviest" or "obesity" are inherently pejorative.
 * Using birth and death years as a disambiguation is a normal way to be specific in a disambiguation list.
 * I don't think there's a policy based reason to choose one over the other; this means that it is an editorial choice by the editor who created or moved the page to its current disambiguated location. Overriding that choice would require a policy-based reason, which we don't seem to have.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 07:40, 4 September 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi jmcgnh. Thanks for the input.


 * It was an editorial choice, but maybe not the best choice. Overriding that choice would not require a policy-based reason, but only consensus on better a choice.


 * So, about the names, Robert Butler (obesity) uses "(obesity)" where "obese person" seems more appropriate, but possibly pejorative. Walter Hudson (1944–1991) uses "(1944–1991)", but I do not see that as conventional or even used elsewhere. If Butler is solved, Hudson can follow suit. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:32, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, a consensus-based change could be made. Should that consensus be formed here, at WP:WikiProject Disambiguation, or some other venue? I'm guessing that you are hoping to apply some degree of consistency to the article naming approach for these two people, but it's far too small a sample. Using (obesity) is more concise than (obese person). Since their weight is the sole reason they are notable, I could see using (obesity) as the qualifier for both. But I can also see leaving things just as they are as an acceptable outcome.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 02:03, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi jmcgnh. I guess this is an okay venue. So, fair enough. Let's let this sit here, and if others join in to push things in a certain direction, fine. Otherwise, we can let it be. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:06, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * After some consideration, I've come to the opinion that this topic, along with oldest cats and dirtiest man, along with other grotesques and oddities, probably should go into the list things that Wikipedia is NOT, but I'm not zealous enough about that opinion to campaign for it.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 20:21, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi jmcgnh. I think it would easily survive AfD. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:34, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Obvious weight loss discrepancy
Jon Brower Minnoch is listed as having lost 419 kg, the largest weight loss ever recorded, despite that the very next person, Khalid bin Mohsen Shaari, is stated to have lost 542 kg. Dimeirex (talk) 05:27, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Sean Milliken passed away
Sean Milliken who was featured in the "My 600-lb life" died on Sunday, February 17th 2019, at age 29. His father confirmed that Sean ahd passed away via FB and also to multiple news outlets. There are quite a few YT videos about Sean's death.

Reference 16: it’s Portuguese, not Spanish.
You German speakers can’t differentiate languages. Matatias (talk) 13:28, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2020
I would like to change the fact that Jon Brower Minnoch is not the heaviest person to have ever lived. I have sufficient evidence that a man called Luke Newcombe is heavier than Jon by 22kg. Ringworm seducer (talk) 04:22, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. After seeing your vandalism on List of tallest people I'm not holding my breath. Meters (talk) 04:44, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 June 2020
Kelsey Kasher should be added she weighs 677 lbs Juliaborny (talk) 05:07, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  JTP (talk • contribs) 05:24, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Weight at death
Maybye there should be another column, called weight at death, where it would list people weight at death, because some people lost their weight, until their death. Also where Is Khan Baba 5.173.129.208 (talk) 12:14, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

"LosPollosTV" ???
I am not an expert in this subject... I just happened upon this page while doing some googling, but I believe the LosPollosTV entry is vandalism. The notes just say "Burger King." 198.135.172.27 (talk) 02:01, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Arbab Khizer Hayat
Arbab Khaizer Hayat, is a Pakistani wrestler, known for his weight, known as 'Khan Baba', or 'Pakistani Hulk'. He claims to be 436kg (961 lbs), or according to some even 441kg (981 lbs) Source: https://broscience.com/khan-baba/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.231.63.57 (talk) 15:19, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 December 2022
Change the age at death for Andrés Moreno from 45 to 38. Coldrainwater (talk) 23:39, 7 December 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ ARandomName123 (talk) 16:23, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2023
2601:44:201:68F0:5047:B5EB:B8BC:3DC5 (talk) 18:27, 11 November 2023 (UTC) Heviest person is 1400 lb
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Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2024
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