Talk:List of ongoing armed conflicts

Wikidata list of ongoing conflicts
The following automatically generated list shows conflics that have start dates but no end date in wikidata. It is updated every 60s day. It might be useful in keeping this article up to date. The content of the table affects wikidata based infoboxes used in Wikipedia articles about wars on other Wikipedia versions, for example Databox used in Swedish Wikipedia. Please help by fixing any errors in the wikidata objects.

&sum; 62 items.

Corrections of Inaccuracies and Omissions
In the column showing location, there are several historical errors:

In Major Wars: The war involving Israel is misnamed and misleading. It was NOT the "Israeli- Palestinian conflict." It WAS named Israel War of Independence. The day after its statehood, Israel was attacked by Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and a formation from Saudi Arabia that fought under Egypt. Under 20,000 died in that war. Iraq and Yemen were not involved, and there were no "Palestinians " or "Palestine" in 1948. The term "Palestinian" was created by Arafat in 1964. The refugees from the War of Independence were called "refugees."

(The attacks on Israel from "refugees" began in the 1950s. The attacks on Christians and Jews in the area (now Israel) before statehood were from "Arabs" living in the region beginning with  Arab Colonialism in the 7th century.)

In Wars (1,000- 9,999): Israel is incorrectly shown as involved in the area 2014 Yemeni Civil War. Israel was not involved nor in any way related to the cause of this conflict. Placing Israel in this conflict as a location is both misleading and revisionist.

Yemen's current attacks are a new conflict and not just limited to Israel and include Saudi Arabia, US, Pakistan, Norway, UK, and Panama. Those countries should be included in "location" for 2023.

In the Minor Deaths Conflict.

In the 1948 Israeli-Lebanonese conflict, there is an icon and link to the Palestinian flag. There is no country named "Palestine" now, and there wasn't one in 1948. The 1948 attack on Israel by Lebanon had nothing to do with "Palestinians." By including an incorrect reference to them, the site contains revisionist history.

The Palestinian flag is incorrectly shown as being a country and participant in this war. The term "Palestinian" became a reference to refugees of this war in 1964 by Arafat.

In Deaths by Country

"Palestine" is not a country and is the only inclusion of an ethnic group. Please remove or reclassify it to what it currently really is.

Omissions: Sahel Indonesia Philippines Taiwon-China Dr.Donna23 (talk) 08:32, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The naming of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is not in the scope of this article as this is the name agreed to be used in various other articles on the topic. Furthermore, its inclusion today does not refer to the initial war of independence, but rather the low-intensity conflict between Israel and its neighbors which has seen intermittent flare-ups ever since.
 * Israeli involvement in the Yemeni civil war is tied to Houthi strikes as a result of the ongoing war against Hamas, hence Israel is marked as a belligerent party both here and on the article. Again, this grievance is not in this page's scope since editors here did not make the call to include it as a phase of the civil war in Yemen.
 * Palestine's inclusion in the Israeli-Lebanese conflict has been removed given that the PLO ceased participation decades ago (a fact reflected in the article as well).
 * Palestine is a de jure state with deaths on its territory due to one or more conflicts listed in this article and, as such, should be included. ACLED, the source of the casualty statistics, recognizes this and thus catalogues deaths which have occurred within Palestine's borders due to war.
 * The Sahel is not omitted (insurgency in the Maghreb under "major conflicts") nor is Indonesia (Papua conflict under "minor conflicts") or the Philippines (civil conflict and drug war under "minor conflicts"). The Chinese Civil War, though continuing under the Cross-Strait conflict, is omitted because no deaths have been recorded in the past or current calendar year as a result of it. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 09:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Why are the wars in Israel and Myanmar both dated back to 1948, while the war in Ukraine is dated to 2022, despite having ongoing disputes dating back to 2014? I understand this article is not the place where this is decided, so where is the place where that decision is made?
 * In all 3 cases, there were triggering events in 2022-2023 with subsequent large scale conflicts involving 10,000+ deaths, so I'm curious what the criteria difference is here for Ukraine in this case. As a reader, I think it is much clearer to differentiate between the immediate conflicts and the ongoing conflicts, for example, with the Myanmar coup leading to an outbreak of civil war. Fileyfood500 (talk) 03:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * List of ongoing armed conflicts has the Russo-Ukrainian War entry near the bottom of the table and it is dated to 2014 not 2022, so I don't understand where you get 2022 from? Kathleen&#39;s bike (talk) 03:32, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh that's right, ok, that makes sense, I mixed something up- Fileyfood500 (talk) 04:03, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
 * What is the 'Israel War of Independence'? Independence from who? 142.114.194.170 (talk) 17:01, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Maoist insurgency in Turkey
Maoist rebel groups are still active in turkey and skirmishes between Maoist insurgents and Turkish army is still happing so shouldn't the Maoist insurgency in turkey be added to “skirmishes and clashes” Christsos (talk) 01:29, 30 January 2024 (UTC)


 * There have not been any known deaths associated with this conflict in 2023 or this year so far in order for it to be on the list. Whitesin21 (talk) 23:39, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * here is a list of deaths due to this conflict
 * One person killed in attack on Istanbul courthouse | News | Al Jazeera Christsos (talk) 23:21, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 April 2024
The suggested edit is combine the entry for the Arab-Israeli conflict, and the Israeli-Lebanese conflict, which is listed as a subcategory of the Arab-Israeli conflict in wikidata: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q8669

In "Major wars (10,000 or more combat-related deaths in current or previous year)" section, change:


 * Arab–Israeli conflict
 * Israeli–Palestinian conflict
 * Gaza–Israel conflict
 * Israel–Hamas war
 * Red Sea crisis

To:


 * Arab–Israeli conflict
 * Israeli–Palestinian conflict
 * Gaza–Israel conflict
 * Israel–Hamas war
 * Red Sea crisis
 * Israeli–Lebanese conflict
 * Hezbollah–Israel conflict
 * Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)

In "Wars (1,000–9,999 combat-related deaths in current or previous year)" section, remove the row starting with:


 * Israeli–Lebanese conflict
 * Hezbollah–Israel conflict
 * Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)

Change the Cumulative Fatalities entry for the Arab-Israeli conflict row, using the same source: https://www.systemicpeace.org/warlist/warlist.htm

Fileyfood500 (talk) 17:36, 3 April 2024 (UTC) Fileyfood500 (talk) 17:36, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Appears to have already been done. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:04, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Make Belarus Yellow
^ 66.244.233.10 (talk) 23:24, 16 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm open to this. Can you provide any sources or documentation of ongoing fighting in Belarus? Also, is this conflict information reflected in wikidata? Fileyfood500 (talk) 03:11, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Good faith edits by user Illegitimate Barrister
While the edits were in good faith, there are several issues with the removal of all flags, the unlinking of all countries, and the listing of countries through commas. No other article does this. MOS:FLAG does NOT apply here, as this is a military article, and the flags both help the article visually and can help users distinguish between countries in ways outside their name. Also, the italics were on nations like Armenia and South Korea due to them being disputed states (which Illegitimate Barrister would've known had they read the CRITERIA "Italics indicate disputed territories and unrecognized states."). Then, the unlinking of countries to their respective articles is just kinda stupid, considering it makes it harder to find more info on the nations for people who aren't educated in the subject. Also, HARDLY ANY OTHER ARTICLE IS FORMATTED IN THIS FASHION. Look at most other lists around wikipedia. List of wars: 2003–present, Unusual articles, and the majority of other military-related articles. All would break the MOS:FLAG according to IB's edits on this page. Also, it just looks so damn horrible. Someone, please revert the edits. I cannot do so as I am not extended confirmed. Or hell, even better, @Illegitimate Barrister themselves revert the edits. IdioticAnarchist (talk) 02:59, 17 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I agree the edits should be reverted. The flags are in line with other articles and standards. Possibly @Illegitimate Barrister removed the flags because the article is controversial, and MOS:FLAG states that flags may be removed in controversial artricles. However, in this case, the flags do not appear to be the controversial aspect of the article, and the change is now inconsistent with List of wars: 2003–present, as @IdioticAnarchist points out. Fileyfood500 (talk) 03:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Inaccurate and tendentious categorisation of Israel-Hamas war
Grouping all of the wars Israel has been involved in since 1948 as one conflict is self-evidently non-factual, tendentious and deliberately intended to inflate the total casualty count (which itself is highly dubious; hundreds of thousands!? Add up the casualties in the 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982 and then other conflicts does not come close to 300,000). The total Arab casualties in all of the wars of the Arab-Israeli conflict in the Arab-Israeli conflict article is around 90,000. If you're actually saying Israel is a "belligerent in the Yemeni civil war", and then adding all of the deaths from that conflict (given Israel has not struck back at all and is not at war with Yemen or Houthis, and has not caused any deaths in Yemen) is so obviously biased, as is calling Israel a "belligerent" in what are, in fact, unlawful terror attacks by a non-state actor. I don't know how to do a signature here so sorry User:Idontknowhowtodothissorry -- 2 May 2024 2a02:6b6d:1338:0:fd31:8c17:3cf2:3a56

Legend and map have specified types of war
To preface, I do not think that there is an error, I do believe this is intentional, I just think it would be better done differently.

For the legend for the map: Yellow is "Skirmishes and Clashes (1-99)" Orange is "Minor conflicts (100-999) Red is "Wars (1,000-9,999)" Maroon is "Major wars (10,000 or more)"

Why does it take casualties as a measurement, and then apply a label to it? Wouldn't it make more sense for it to just be by casualties? It seems to be overstating these conflicts, especially considering many conflicts throughout the past 20 years have had well over 100,000 casualties, and in the past 100 years many that have reached millions dead. I am not saying these ongoing ones are not still horrific losses of life, any death is terrible, but calling anything with at least 10,000 casualties a 'Major War' seems a bit strange when looking at the number of deaths of other wars in history.

Pretty much I just think the map and legend should be by casualties alone, without labels such as "Minor conflict" or "Major war" being applied.

If I'm missing something obvious, please do point it out, I just want to make Wikipedia better. Texinova (talk) 18:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

why the Arab-Israeli conflict Casualties are high there are?
most source show there around 110,000-120,000 not 200,000+ like in table

like https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/total-casualties-arab-israeli-conflict Thetal1324 (talk) 10:37, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Time to update with UCDP data for 2023 and before
UCDP data for 2023 was published in 29 May 2024. See https://ucdp.uu.se/year/2023. As usual, many numbers are lower than in this table.

Who has time to update the table? (I often have done it previous years). Tomastvivlaren (talk) 21:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Done. I interpreted "Cumulative fatalities" as by 1 January 2023. Correct? Can this date be written in the table headers?
 * I used the nts instead of ntsh template, because mistakes can easilty be done with hidden values.Tomastvivlaren (talk) 09:19, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Mistake in Final Table
The last table in the article which lists countries by armed conflict deaths has the Democratic Republic of the Congo listed twice in the last column under 2023 deaths. I assume whoever made the error perhaps meant to type a different country such as the Republic of the Congo or perhaps more likely the Central African Repubic or Burkina Faso? The second appearance of the Democratic Republic of the Congo has a different figure for the number of deaths than the first, so perhaps that figure applies to a different country? If someone knows the answer, please edit accordingly. Thank you.66.91.36.8 (talk) 00:00, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Shouldn't the yellow section of the map be 2-99 not 1-99?
How do you have a skirmish with only 1 person? 2401:D002:B50C:2D00:651E:F814:BD5A:520C (talk) 00:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


 * It is possible to have only 1 casualty in a military confrontation (or even a war) involving multiple people. Clyde H. Mapping (talk) 05:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

The Ukraine-Russia war is dated wrong
In 2014 Russia was not conflicting party between Kiev and the breakaway former regions of Ukraine. Russia didn't invade Ukraine until 2022. The attack by Kiev on the separatists should be listed separately. 142.114.194.170 (talk) 16:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Who removed the flags?
Why did someone remove the country flags in the tables? It's harder to navigate the list without the flags, and I'm curious why someone made this decision. Game2Winter (talk) 05:58, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Change the minimum estimate of those killed in the conflict in Ukraine to 120,000+
At the moment, according to the minimally recorded obituaries on both sides, the number of deaths should exceed 120 thousand people; the information in the article is outdated: 1) 54,000+ dead on the Russian side https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/11/casualties_eng 2) 46,000+ dead on the Ukrainian side https://ualosses.org/ 3) 10,000+ civilian deaths https://ukraine.un.org/en/253322-civilian-deaths-ukraine-war-top-10000-un-says 4) there is no point in proving the number of deaths before a full-scale war, I think these numbers are already in the public domain: approximately 14,000 people

You have some 100,000 victims listed, it can no longer be such a low estimate, I ask you to remove this

Islamic insurgency in russia
There has not been 0 casualties this year in the Islamic insurgence in the north caucuses. This is proven by the crocus city hall attack which was perpetrated by isis and killed 145 people. The recent Dagestan attack may have also been an Islamic state attack Huumas (talk) 08:28, 24 June 2024 (UTC)