Talk:List of people claimed to be Jesus

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Inclusion of Jesus
For the sake of completeness, should Jesus be included in the list of people claiming to be Jesus? 96.241.84.177 (talk) 23:20, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Introduction of the article says it's about people claiming to be the reincarnation of Jesus, so historical and/or biblical Jesus would not be included. Mateussf (talk) 00:06, 7 March 2022 (UTC)


 * That's an artificial constraint introduced in the body of the article, there's no reason it can't be edited to reflect the new wider scope. 96.241.84.177 (talk) 00:56, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I believe it is obvious to every reader that Jesus of Nazareth claimed to be Jesus. We generally avoid stating the obvious in the encyclopedia unless there is a very good reason to do so, and the current structure and scope that omits an entry for Jesus of Nazareth (but which links to the article about him in the lead of the article) does not do so.  General Ization  Talk  01:21, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Division by century
What explains the division by centuries the way it currently is? There's a person born in 1964 in the 20th century section and a person born in 1950 in the 21st century section. I suggest sorting by birth year. Mateussf (talk) 00:05, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Mahdi
As belonging a minority group often attacked by both Sunni and Shia, is not in the best position to issue threats. But it is also true that neither Sunni nor Shia conflate between Jesus and Mahdi, well, unless they do it on purpose, in order to discredit somebody as an ignorant. tgeorgescu (talk) 01:32, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Mother Ann Lee
The source used does not actually state that she was the reincarnation of Christ - she 'represented' the 2nd Coming but was not actually Christ. Even language such as 'female component', which is vague and not very truthful, is not a proof of Mother Ann as Christ. Placing her in this article is incredibly misleading. 150.108.120.64 (talk) 16:06, 9 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Lol, I'm seeing now that the article states 'who have been claimed, either by themselves or by their followers, to be...the Second Coming of Christ.' Though I think that rather lessens this article's usefulness, Ann Lee is still misrepresented as an actual INCARNATION of Christ rather than just a prophet of His Second Coming. 150.108.238.161 (talk) 16:27, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

This article is not about people who are actually Jesus. None of the sources for any of the items states that the subject is the actual reincarnation of Christ. That would be a personal opinion, which would make the source unreliable. There is nothing misleading about including her. Followers claimed that she was Christ, and that is properly sourced. Do you have an equally reliable source that disputes that? Sundayclose (talk) 17:50, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Providence
About Providence (religious movement): people who claim that Rabbi Schneerson is the Messiah don't claim that he is Jesus, and don't claim that he is God. Apples and oranges. tgeorgescu (talk) 15:09, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I agree, and I removed that entry. Sundayclose (talk) 15:43, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * A number of former members from Jung's church have publicly stated that he claims to be the modern incarnation of Jesus in the modern age. In the Providence Wikipedia page, citation 24, a Korean information network has publicized these claims, as well as the claims being publicized in the new Netflix documentary In The Name of God: A Holy Betrayal. I believed that this would qualify him to be added to the list Whatnamesareleftnow (talk) 16:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
 * A couple of points. The sources must unequivocally indicate that he claims to be Jesus, not what others claim. Carefully read WP:BLP. Second point: Citations to sources belong in the article that you are editing, not another article or a talk page. Read WP:V, WP:RS, and WP:BURDEN. Sundayclose (talk) 22:36, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Removed David Koresh
In the spirit of Be Bold I deleted the section on David Koresh. He positively did not claim to be Jesus and therefore doesn't belong on this list. He claimed to be the seventh seal and the "sinful messiah", two other characters that he identified in the Bible, whose coming he said would precede the coming of Jesus, but he explicitly disclaimed the idea that he was Jesus. His inclusion in this article was in error. 71.211.139.147 (talk) 03:28, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

List of people **who** claimed to be jesus?
The title makes no sense to me, but maybe it does. I don't know. how about moving it? Is it grammatically correct? Chicken4War (talk) 02:15, 9 January 2024 (UTC)


 * "List of people who claimed to be Jesus" already exists, it redirects here. Request to move is possible, but since it already redirects here it doesn't seem necessary. Vghfr (talk) 16:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC)