Talk:List of pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States in 2024

Article size
With U.S. protests alone, this article is nearly back above 9,000 words. Per WP:ARTICLESIZE, suggestion for further splits based on section sizes: California, Massachusetts, New York, and Texas. To clarify, I'm not proposing splitting this time, but instead suggesting it should happen boldly as necessary, and to avoid putting too long templates in sections. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 09:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)


 * some of these campus protest need to be turned into their own articles, maybe. that can also help reduce size by a lot. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 04:25, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Actually, some of these have already been turned into their own pages! USC in particular has its own page, but there are more now.
 * Theres still a paragraph of info on here, that can probably be turned into a single sentence now. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 04:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Maybe we can remove the subsubheaders for the most important protests i.e. Columbia, UCLA, since they have their own articles? We should still emphasize them somehow though. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 04:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes there are quite a few campus occupation articles, as seen from the list here. While it's great to see, it hasn't reduced the article size, as usually it's a paragraph from here that's expanded on to create a full article with background, timeline and responses etc. Personally I don't think we should be reducing child articles to single sentences, they should be full paragraphs or more per WP:SUMMARY.
 * To me this is more or less unrelated to article size. If contributors are willing to create these articles, to include more detail, then that's clearly beneficial and should continue to be encouraged. But ultimately it won't/hasn't helped to keep the article below 9,000 words.
 * Hence as an example, if List of pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in California in 2024 were created, there could (legitimately) be a much more refined summary of that child article here, and the California-based campus occupation "grandchildren" articles could become single sentences (as would become child articles of Cali protests by default). If that makes any sense?
 * I also think this could potentially become a non-issue if protests are dying down in the U.S. and the article stays under 15,000 words. It wouldn't be the worst scenario, even if not ideal and completely avoidable. Per WP:SIZERULE, upto 15,000 words and "the scope of a topic can sometimes justify the added reading material"., which in this case would probably be true.
 * I'm just suggesting that if anyone were to split off lengthy state section to a new article, in order to reduce the article size here with a more concise summary, I think it'd be a good idea overall. Maybe eventually I'll end up doing it to test the water as it were. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 18:16, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Separate page from California
I've gone ahead and created List of pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in California in 2024. I've just copied and pasted the section from this page over there. It obviously needs work. Perhaps someone else would like to consult about what this section should look like. Kire1975 (talk) 14:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Ideally the new article would have an expanded lead to a fuller paragraph, even if only a list of universities with protests for now. It could also include a summary of where the protests started, or spread, or where there were mass arrests etc. Then this could be copied back to this article. Maybe I'll look at doing so another time. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 15:53, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Ohio State University
Just as a heads up for any contributors following this talk page, the main contributor and creator of the 2024 Ohio State University pro-Palestinian campus protests article @Onlineone22 is currently unable to continue contributing to that article, so if anyone is able to help keep it up to date in the meantime it would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. CNC (talk) 11:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Request to add sniper photograph to Ohio State University excerpt
I request we add this to the Ohio State University section of the article:



Onlineone22 (talk) 03:03, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Requesting assistance editing Ohio State University protest article.
I recently created a related article detailing the college protests at Ohio State University. After this article was made extended-protected, I lost my ability to edit the article because I do not have EP permissions. Substantial details are missing from this article, so until I regain my permissions, I have been adding suggestions to the talk page of this article. But no one has been implementing my suggestions on the talk page, despite the fact they are supported by multiple sources and add significant missing details from the article.

If members of this community could please visit the talk page of this article and implement my requested changes, this would be deeply appreciated. Thank you!

Onlineone22 (talk) 17:15, 28 June 2024 (UTC)