Talk:Mean Girls

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Awful page
The over-long plot description is a train-wreck. It reads like a seventh grade book report where the kid only watched the movie. Someone should just delete the entire thing, wikipedia isn't supposed to have a line-by-line description of a movie. A short paragraph would suffice. Sorry if the author spent a lot of time on the piece, but, from reading it, the author probably spent a lot of time getting dressed this morning.

Some of the quotes are wrong as well. I know it's only a small thing but I think we are striving for the most accurate depiction of people, places and things. The quote should read "ignorant band of loyal followers.


 * I agree. In addition, some comments on how the film was critically received would be helpful. Aaron 14:18, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Attempted to streamline the plot somewhat. Still clunky, though. -- Captainsam8

ending
"Along with several of the film's loose ends, some viewers found this resolution to be unsatisfactory and maintained that this was a "cop out" by the writers."

I find that truly bizarre. To me, that was one of the funniest jokes in the whole movie. An error of George W. Bush proportions, to mistake "Lebanese" for "Lesbian". Not only does it completely tie off a loose end, it was hilarious, and the writers were smart enough to deliver it when least expected. Kasreyn 18:31, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

The limit
I believe it doesn't exist. L'Hopital's rule yields the following: $$\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{ln(1-x)-sin(x)}{sin(x)^2}$$ $$=\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{\frac{-1}{1-x}-cos(x)}{2sin(x)cos(x)}$$ Which goes to $$\frac{-1-1}{2*0*1}=\frac{-2}{0}$$, meaning that it is nonexistant. However, if it had said ln(1+x), then it might be different. Also, I believe that the movie said Sexually Active Band Geeks, not Sexually Active Nerds. JustPlainUncool

--I took this out. The limit does not exist. JustPlainUncool is correct. mlw1235


 * This was certainly the most intellectually compelling aspect of the film. I immediately recognized the "indeterminant form" and applied l'Hôpital's Rule; indeed, the limit does not converge to any number; and the assetion by the lovely Miss Lohan was quite correct. This must be added back to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.211.195.122 (talk) 20:57, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


 * @JustPlainUncool In both cases you are correct! -Gretchen Skeleton RemusSandersRegretsEverything (talk) (pronouns) 20:57, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Movie Summary
Anyone else think this summary needs a good once-over? Not only does it contain numerous typographical errors, but also some factual errors (eg, incorrect quotes/plotpoints) and is generally overly long. Sentences like "Regina gets hit by a bus, wicked hard" don't quite seem all that encyclopedic in effort. 68.212.217.104 00:55, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

song
what is the 'theme song' in this movie? it doesn't say it on the wiki page and it doesn't say it on the official website, what is it? (does it even exist as a real song?) [by the way i mean the one that is played at the end of the 'Spring Fling'/ and... (i can't remember when they first play it!!)] If you know can you pleasssssssssssssssse tell me! 203.214.135.82 10:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)JG ROX

it's called 'Built This Way' by Samantha Ronson, and the particlar version in the movie is the Slow Remix. does anyone know the name of the song playing at Cady's party?? 68.19.244.203 05:37, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Janis
It says in the analysis that Janis is revealed to be "unequivocably straight" at the end of the film, but she could be bisexual. I think that I can change this. Epa101 09:13, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

A goof
Did anyone notice that Cady is taking two math classes? She is taking Calculus with Aaron, but she is also in Janus's class too. Would this mean that she is taking two math classes? Plus, you can see in the beginning that Mrs. Norbury's room is very math-oriented, which would support that this is also a math class. So unless Mrs. Norbury might teach the subject, I think someone should add the goof into the Trivia section.


 * This is not a goof. Cady and Janis are in the same homeroom, though this is not explicitly stated in the film.  Many American public high schools begin the day by sorting students into homerooms before first period. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 18.244.6.113 (talk • contribs).


 * oh, it is stated in the film, as Ms. Norbury says, "I'm your homeroom teacher," or something similar. RemusSandersRegretsEverything (talk) 20:47, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Trivia
I was just wondering why my trivia (the one about the cafeteria montage using the theme music for futurama) was deleted. I cant seem to find an explanation in the edit history. if anyone has a reason, please contact me! YaddaYaddaBlahBlahBlah 07:48, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I wish I knew also. I enjoyed that fact and shared it with friends as we were watching this movie. Maybe you should try putting it back. I feel it is interesting enough... all trivia is "pointless" but it's always fun to know things like this. -RKJ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.128.234.186 (talk) 21:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC).
 * Wikipedia doesn't like trivia sections. It also isn't the Futurama theme but a song by Pierre Henry "Psyché Rock". The Futurama theme was partially inspired by "Psyché Rock." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.129.202.141 (talk) 16:26, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

pronunciation
Why specify that Cady is pronounced kay-dee? I'm as imaginative as the next chap but is there really another way to pronounce it in, y'know, English? &mdash;Tamfang 08:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * CAH-dee perhaps? I'd say it warrants a mention; the mispronunciation of her name was revisited multiple times in the movie. Pumpkingrrl 05:37, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Coach Carr thought
This is just a random thing I thought of when it reaired on TBS today but isn't it sort of creepy that John Mark Karr and Coach Carr are just sort of similar? I dunno.-Babylon pride 04:51, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Carpal Tunnel error
Tina Fey herself said on The E True Hollywood Story that after filming, they realized that Mr. Duvall was wearing his cast for an entire school year, which is more time than would be needed in real life. I added that to his character and someone deleted it. That should be put in there, as it's more information on the whole "carpal tunnel/cast" for Mr. Duvall.

Why shouldn't this be included?
 * This is why: WP:TriviaCander0000 (talk) 05:12, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

This is very funny and I agree that it should be added. I had the surgery myself and only had a bandage on for 10 days. 82.38.83.222 15:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Black comedy vandal
Can some one tell me who this vandal who puts movie in the "black comdey film" catogory ,he added this film ,fight club and some other films into the catogory --TheManWithThePlan666 19:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Plot?
There's no plot overview at all. Can someone who's seen the film please add one? Thanks ~Sushi 06:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Done! -RV @HyperSushi21 RemusSandersRegretsEverything (talk) 20:48, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Toronto
Should it be mentioned that the Matholympics scene was filmed in Convocation Hall at the University of Toronto?192.30.202.15 17:19, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Many of the schools scenes such as the talent show as well as attend the dance at the end of the film take place at a high school in Toronto - though for the life of me, I cannot recall the name of it. (Galaxycat (talk) 18:44, 19 October 2010 (UTC))

Trivia
WHO REMOVED ALL THE TRIVIA. it was so fun and interesting to read.someone needs to put it back. what happened?!
 * Articles should not have trivia sections. ShadowHalo 04:12, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Plot Rewrite
I have rewritten the plot. It's not very good, but it's better than before. Feel free to change the details. I've also deleted the "Characters" section. Film articles are not supposed to have this section - see WikiProject Films/Style guidelines.— н¡ρρi   iρρ¡   13:36, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't have the epilogue where Regina is playing field hockey. Or lacrosse. 202.169.180.156 (talk) 04:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I liked the character section. Is there any way that we can have more info about the characters?

Field hockey or lacrosse?
There is a minor edit war going on about the game Regina is playing at the end of the film: field hockey or lacrosse. I'm seeking consensus from people who are knowledgeable. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 18:36, 31 December 2007 (UTC)


 * According to the narration in the film it is Lacrosse. --User:Tarheelz123 (talk) 15:42, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Music of Japan - Article links here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Japan#Arrival_of_Western_music

I was reading this article and clicked on the link to "The Plastics" and was led here. --Ofunniku (talk) 12:48, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Updating the Plot/Cast and other Sections
After reading this film page, I believe that it is in need of some changing. Over the next several days, I am planning to make the following changes to this page:

1.) Updating the plot section. The overall plot just hits some of the major points of the movie and doesn't really go into much detail behind why some things happened in the movie.

2.) I will also work on updating the cast section. As you can see, it goes into no detail about the actors or characters in the film. I will give a brief description of each and try to elaborate more on this section.

3.) The box office section also needs some work I think. It tells about the success of the movie but doesn't really give any individual critics on the movie. I will find some reviews on the movie and post them over the next few days.


 * These are just some change that I have thought up off the top of my head. If anyone else can think of anything else or sees any other changes that need to be made, please let me know. Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paige08 (talk • contribs) 15:48, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * re.1. The plot section should just be a general synopsis and not a blow-by-blow account which is how that section used to be. Thedarxide (talk) 16:48, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

I have edited the cast section with a brief description of each character and their importance in the movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paige08 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay so a few days ago, I added to the cast/character section and now all my stuff is gone. Anyone have any idea why? I thought it would be helpful for people to know about the characters in the movie. :/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paige08 (talk • contribs) 01:11, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Several reasons. Some of it was POV (e.g., "the 2nd highest 'Plastic'"; "the dull math teacher"). These are your analyses, which is not allowed without a reliable source to back it up. Some of your writing is unencyclopedic (e.g., "Not the brightest crayon in the box"). And in your edits to the Soundtrack, you made a mess of the wikilinks (e.g., there are no articles for performed by The Donnas or written by Billy Idol and Tony James). Ward3001 (talk) 01:39, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Cast List?
Why is there no actual cast list? Can someone add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.117.155 (talk) 01:06, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

"I know, right?"
This film introduced the phrase into the national lexicon. Shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? --98.232.188.173 (talk) 10:04, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Reference to Wizard of Oz
The 'Reference to Wizard of Oz' section is the dumbest thing I ever read, and it needs citation. Striped socks ≠ Wizard of Oz reference. 121.223.110.215 (talk) 19:37, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

"Mean Girls" is a 4 Marx Brothers Comedy
In case no one has noticed it, the movie "Mean Girls" is a Marx Brothers comedy. It's got Zeppo, Groucho, Chico and Harpo. Up to their usual antics. Just ask Tina Fey. And I've got two personally autographed 8 x 10 glossies of Lindsay Lohan to me, so I've been following Lindsay's career. "Just My Luck" was a re-write of "Nightmare Alley" and "Parent Trap II" was a re-write of "Three Smart Girls" and "Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen" was just a re-write of "Hello Dolly!". Films are based upon other films. There's a whole lexicon of film that builds sequentially, it's called Hollywood. 69.228.116.149 (talk) 22:34, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Mean Moms
Mean Moms redirects here, however, there is no mention of it anywhere on this page. I'll be adding a new subsection underneath the already-present Legacy section about it. I'll also fix the redirect. However, as a date is already planned for Mean Moms to be released, an entirely new page should probably created for it. Appalling (talk) 01:05, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

False commentary
The parenthetical, unattributed commentary "It is important to note that this school is actually based off of the National Cathedral School, which is a private school in Washington DC" is false and should be removed.

As the Development section of the article accurately explains, the movie screenplay is Tina Fey's rewrite of Rosalind Wiseman's book "Queen Bees and Wannabes," based in part on Fey's high school experience in suburban Philadelphia. In a 2014 interview, Wiseman noted some of Fey's sharp departures from her book, including elements the screenplay got wrong.

Wiseman's book, meanwhile, was drawn from her experiences teaching at "30-plus private schools" through her program Woman's Way (a.k.a. The Empower Program ), as well as from workshops Woman's Way orchestrated for teenagers.

National Cathedral School became erroneously identified as "the Mean Girls school" through a 2002 article in the New York Times Magazine. Margaret Talbot's article begins outside Wiseman's class for NCS sixth-graders -- that is, 11- and 12-year-olds, rather than teenagers, as in the movie. Talbot went on to mention other schools, including an unnamed high school in suburban Maryland; a student there provided the quote ("Monday is fancy day -- like black pants or maybe you bust out with a skirt") that became "On Wednesdays we wear pink" in the movie. But Talbot's mention of NCS in the lede associated the school with Wiseman's book and thus the movie. Typokiller (talk) 15:18, 2 February 2016 (UTC)


 * ✅ Pursuant to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, the disputed statement has been removed because it was challenged and also lacked an in-line citation. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Altamel (talk) 02:47, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Merger proposal
Hi. I propose that Mean Girls DS be merged into this article, specifically by expanding the "Video game" section and redirecting the Mean Girls DS article to that section. Note that the game was planned but never actually released, hence there really isn't much to say about it in its own article. Because it was never released, there are no critical reviews of it. The Mean Girls DS article has a review section, but the supposed "mixed reviews" is a broken link to a forum. The only reliable sources I can find on it are from when plans for the game were initially announced. Any comments or objections? Bennv3771 (talk) 11:24, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Cast Update
Amy Poehler as June George, Regina's pushover mother I thought this should be: Amy Poehler as June George, Regina's pushover mother and self proclaimed "cool mom." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrscolden (talk • contribs) 01:21, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

Draft:List of Mean Girls characters
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"Northwestern University in Chicago"
Northwestern is in Evanston, not Chicago Popopopper (talk) 17:20, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Legacy
The New York Times mentions Mean Girls in a 2019 article about lesbian representation Hollywood and is critical of the fact that the film marginalizes lesbians, as opposed to later movies such as Blockers and Booksmart. In terms of Legacy it shows how the film has aged, but also if someone finds more sources it might be worth exploring the lesbian panic themes of the film. -- 109.79.161.241 (talk) 23:34, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 July 2019
121.216.196.168 (talk) 08:22, 5 July 2019 (UTC)I know what it is about and have seen the movie
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A show was shown
This article doesn't mention how a kid was watching, Girls Gone Wild, a film series. Obviously, that film series is not suitable for kids. Not a proper source but... [https://www.commonsensemedia.org/movie-reviews/mean-girls#:~:text=Parents%20need%20to%20know%20that,underage%20drinking%2C%20and%20comic%20violence. Mean Girls Movie Review | Common Sense Media] Also, forgot to add that I know that Wikipedia is a place to add trivial info. Manual of Style/Trivia sections I was just wondering if this was needed. I am aware that a reliable source is required per WP:RS policy. (talk) 03:13, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

"LGBT-related films"?
In the category section, this is is listed under "LGBT-related comedy films". I don't see how it is one because the plot doesn't revolve around an LGBT character or theme. (SPOILER) Janis Ian was only rumored to be a lesbian by Regina George (because George mistook "Lebanese" for "lesbian"). Furthermore, Damian is just a gay character in the background. His homosexuality isn't the highlight of the film and the story doesn't really focus on his life. Also, the film doesn't really feature LGBT themes. That's why I believe "LGBT-related films" is a misrepresentation of the film and should be removed. 203.220.40.43 (talk) 05:08, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 14 January 2024
Mean Girls → Mean Girls (2004 film) – While it is more widely known as the Mean Girls, this film is still no longer the only one with that name, and almost all references to the 2024 film refer to it simply as "Mean Girls" (rather than mentioning its musical status or whatever). I'm fairly sure that this is no longer the primary topic. AveryTheComrade (talk) 02:40, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose (for now). WP:RECENTISM.  Walrasiad (talk) 03:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose: I regard this the primary topic. Kailash29792 (talk)  03:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose: Per the reasons cited above. Underclass King (talk) 04:25, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Strong Oppose: It is definitely still the primary topic. JDDJS  ( talk to me  •  see what I've done ) 06:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose: It's clear to me that this is still the primary topic, plus recentism as already mentioned. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 08:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose: WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:RECENT. For comparison, The Lion King (1994) is still its primary topic despite the 2019 remake. Wasabi OS (talk) 14:59, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose per above. 162 etc. (talk) 16:59, 14 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose, it was the original work. --Shivertimbers433 (talk) 21:21, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

New movie/musical
On a quick overview, I found no mention of the new Mean Girls musical movie. It wasn't in the inspired works at least. If it was miscategorized, let me know. I'm new to Wikipedia but I thought it should be mentioned. 47.229.96.171 (talk) 23:55, 13 February 2024 (UTC)