Talk:National without household registration

English term
The term I have seen most commonly used in the translation of the Household Registration Law and the NIA website is "unregistered national." "National without household registration" only shows up fewer than 20 times on the internet.--Jiang (talk) 10:42, 23 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Are you thinking of another law? I don't see any mention of this in the latest household registration law (Chinese nor English). Anyway I picked the title based on the following search results:


 * Restricted to gov.tw:
 * "Unregistered nationals": 6 non-duplicate hits
 * "Nationals without household registration": 22 non-duplicate hits
 * "Nationals without citizenship": 5 non-duplicate hits


 * Restricted to .tw:
 * "Unregistered nationals": 6 non-duplicate hits
 * "Nationals without household registration": 25 non-duplicate hits
 * "Nationals without citizenship": 31 non-duplicate hits


 * Most internet-wide results "unregistered national" are unrelated (e.g. "unregistered national land", or they have nothing to do with Taiwan at all). I tried filtering out the flotsam and ended up with 20 hits: . The NIA uses both terms (e.g. this guide). I'd say "nationals without citizenship" is a misleading translation, but between "unregistered nationals" or "nationals without household registration" I'm pretty neutral. One is more explicit about what "registration" we're talking about, the other rolls off the tongue much more easily. With such tiny numbers of GHits it's really hard to argue that one is overwhelmingly more common than the other. Eric Baer (talk) 18:44, 23 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Given the information you provided, I don't really have a preference either.
 * Some mention of Mongolian citizens prior to 2002 should be made, but I'm not sure where to fit it in.--Jiang (talk) 07:30, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Added a bit about Mongolians in the "Overview" section. But I'm starting to think the stuff about mainland/HK/Macau people should go into a separate article, because the laws and regulations are mostly disjoint from those regarding unregistered nationals. Not sure what to call the new article, though. Eric Baer (talk) 09:09, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps an article on the Mainland area of the Republic of China to complement free area of the Republic of China could have "Mainland area person" as a major heading?
 * Something else to add to this article: Overseas Chinese certificates being issued to anyone residing overseas of Chinese descent and these certificates being used to apply for ROC passports until 2002. The requirement now seems to be restricted to either birth within the ROC's official borders or descent from someone with a ROC passport.--Jiang (talk) 12:36, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination

 * Glad you liked it. Thanks for your editing & corrections. Cheers, Eric Baer (talk) 05:36, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

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