Talk:November 2015 Paris attacks

It was not the bloodiest attacks in France since World War Two
the Paris Massacre of 1961 killed up to 300 people, the november 2015 terrorist attacks killed 137 people, they are the second deadliest attacks since WW2 The basque savior (talk) 16:03, 26 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The statement "deadliest attacks since WW2" is sourced to two newspaper articles. I guess the Paris Massacre of 1961 death toll is disputed or something? I'd be inclined to leave this as-is since it is well sourced. – Novem Linguae (talk) 16:07, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The death toll of the 1961 massacre is disputed but there are scholarly sources giving a higher death toll:
 * 200 deaths per this 2020 book (pp. 2-3)
 * Furthermore, there were other, far larger, massacres that took place during the France Algeria war which was legally an integral part of France, such as the Sétif and Guelma massacre.
 * I would not consider two news articles "well sourced". Usually journalists are not experts in history so they might not know about other massacre incidents and their death toll.
 * A wording such as "one of the largest" would ensure we are not putting a disputable claim in wikivoice and make sure to clarify it refers to "metropolitan France" only. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  17:50, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Works for me. – Novem Linguae (talk) 18:27, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Islamic attack or not
Verses (Q5:32–33) have been quoted to denounce killing, by using an abbreviated form such as, "If anyone kills a person, it would be as if he killed the whole people: and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people".

these verses denounce killing. killing is prohibited. 109.69.161.178 (talk) 14:52, 12 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The attacks were the work of the Brussels Islamic State terror cell. There is a difference between sensible Muslims and people who misuse religion to pursue their own extremist agendas.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 16:17, 12 July 2023 (UTC)