Talk:Parental abuse by children

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 16 August 2018 and 7 December 2018. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Jessicasmith12.

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Article
As a University of Oklahoma assignment, a classmate and I created this article on adolescent abuse towards parents. We are not experts on this subject but based on personal experience of people close to us, we believed this taboo subject needs to be talked about and shared with others. Never having posted anything to Wikipedia before, we know this article is a work-in-progress and we encourage editing by anyone who can assist with this subject. We hope you find our posting helpful and encourage anyone who experiences abuse of any kind to seek help. Angel Maldonado angel.l.maldonado-1@ou.edu and  Linda Eriksen linda.eriksen-1@ou.eduAngelandlinda (talk) 11:58, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

I found it very helpful thank you and I would like to know how can I repost it on my Facebook page? $DiamondCookie1683 (talk) 17:38, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was move. Cúchullain t/ c 14:04, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Parental abuse → Parental abuse by children – Needs to be renamed to clarify ambiguity - parental abuse can either mean abuse of children by parents or vice versa. The rename overwrites a redirect that goes to a section on this subject in the abuse article and predates this article. Penbat (talk) 18:15, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Basically support – Improving the clarity of the title is a good idea. I suggest calling it "Abuse of parents by adolescents" or "Adolescent abuse towards parents". The latter phrase is used as the headline in the lead paragraph and is used in a prior description on the Talk page. –BarrelProof (talk) 20:47, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Personally Im happy with "children". Quite a few studies refer to children, eg http://familylives.org.uk/sites/default/files/When%20family%20hurts%202010.pdf Note that most of the 17 cited refs at the end of that study refer to "children" and only one refers to "adolescents". --Penbat (talk) 07:02, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support I agree with the above. It is more clear with 'with children'. Btw this discussion should close soon since it's been ten days. Till 09:07, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support a second RM to "by adolescents" could happen later, but for the time being this is an improvement. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:02, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

NPOV
This article needs to be heavily revised to have an NPOV. It currently reads like an oratory trying to convince people that parental abuse by children is a major problem. In fact, it is (see the top of the talk page). --HGK745 (talk) 15:12, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Rubbish. It is a reasonably well sourced article. I think that it is commonly denied that the problem exists at all when it certainly does exist to some extent at least. Obviously nobody knows exactly how common it is. To those concerned it is bound to be a major problem. Do you have any credible source to support your case that it isnt a major problem ? --Penbat (talk) 15:22, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Abused Parents
Since, due to the ambiguity brought about by non-linguistic interpretation of "parental abuse", I have two suggestions for removing the ambiguity: My first choice will be "abuse of parents", without any reference to minority of children. The other choice will be "abused parents", because when a child abuses a parent, the past tense establishes the existence of abuse, which is different from preparing parents who might be abused by their children one day, and caters to the immediate need of parents who are being abused and who are looking for help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.200.188.235 (talk) 15:00, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

adult children
so what is Parental abuse by adult children? Referring to elder abuse by spoiled children. This article focuses on teens and adolescents. BUT the little abusers grow up and return to live with their elderly parents...60 year olds abusing their 90 year old parents...what is that called? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.209.22.7 (talk) 19:20, 2 May 2014 (UTC)


 * good point but elder abuse probably covers your example.--Penbat (talk) 19:25, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

As I was rading through this article, I found some things concerning. One thing in particular is found in the beginning of the article. First, there is a quote that is believed to be found in a book by Declan Coogan. I searched the book and tried to find where this quote is located and was unable to link it to this specific book stated in the article. I also found that the quote used went directly against the point that is made in this paragraph. It begins with talking about how abusers do not always come from abusive homes. Then, it continues on with the quote that talks about how violence follows violence- which is the opposite of what the previous sentence is saying. This paragraph just needs some alterations to improve the point being made.Nicolecorn98 (talk) 21:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)


 * I believe the title should be changed to Parental abuse by adolescent children since the article does not talk about abuse by adult children
 * Foodbrain (talk) 03:21, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Wtf
Wtf 2601:146:4002:3590:D49C:642B:6A1F:1749 (talk) 15:22, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Gaslighting
This article reads like it is written to convince abused kids that everything IS indeed their fault. Like what are the agendas of the authors? Based off my experience researching the sources in this article, I can't help but wonder if this whole topic is a cop out of abusive parents not taking responsibility for raising their children. 97.84.144.123 (talk) 07:59, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

under-researched and under-recognized??
I'm not comfortable with the way this article peppers in claims that the topic is under-researched, under-recognized and misunderstood etc. It very well may be all those things (many things are) but can we have a separate small paragraph about that rather that littering it into other points? It just needs a couple of sentences (with citations) saying something like "Some consider this topic to be under-researched in the field of psychology. There is criticism of the idea that ...." I think that would make it read much better, more like a Wikipedia article than an argumentative essay. I'm also unhappy with anything saying that it is "one of the most" under-researched etc areas in psychology. Not only is it a bold claim, but it's one that a LOT of topics could claim, and doesn't realistically mean much. Djelibey (talk) 09:09, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Parental abuse by children for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Parental abuse by children is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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