Talk:Pittsburgh Steelers/Archive 2

Notable moments
The "Notable moments" section is huge, it should be toned down to a few of the most important or moved to another article. Any suggestions? Blackngold29 (talk) 23:20, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

"The team also enjoys a fanbase nicknamed Steeler Nation, that is rivaled by few teams." I don't know if this meets the standards of wikipedia. Also, can we lose any fluff about the Steelers that begins with "arguably"?

"They will appear in their record setting 14th Conference Championship Game and have hosted more conference championship games than any other NFL franchise." To be balanced, maybe we should also note that they have the most Conference Championship losses and are the only team who has hosted more than one Conference Championship game to have a losing record at home.Brekfest (talk) 05:36, 15 January 2009 (UTC)brekfest


 * All good points. The majority of this article is unsourced and not written very well. It is difficult to keep such an article with so many edits in good shape. If you have reliable sources to back up any of those figures then they could and probably should be added.  black ngold29  07:25, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Whyd we delete the jaguars section and the spygate comments
Personally, I dont see why the jaguars would NOT be considered a rival. As a Steeler fan and avid follower, its easy to see. They've recently been at eachother like mad and on top of that they make some of the best football games. You also cant deny the previous division connections. If were going to have a rivals section we might as well have em all, even if Steelers have a dozen of them.

And bng, i know you love the jag's games. And I wrote it from a pretty clean standpoint, I was quick to point out JAX's supremacy in recent times.

As far as the spygate comments, I agree they were a touch opinionated, but they did cite the reference that was brought up by NFL.com and other sites. Its worthy of being inserted. Although I can understand why not, as it is more explained in the spygate article on Wikipedia.
 * I think the Jags info is worth including, my problem is with the whole "Rivals" section which has gotten excessive. If you would like to help, please see the re-write that is currently being worked on. The Spygate stuff was, in my opinion, a bit much. If it were to be added it should be on the 2007 Pittsburgh Steelers season, I don't see it as notable within the scope of the history of the Steelers franchise. Again, if add a section to the re-write and we can see how it fits into the overall picture. We have to remember that this article is about the Steelers franchise, not a news source for the latest info on the Steelers. It's all good info, but it's just a bit much. If someone disagrees with good reason, I will not remove it if it is added again. Blackngold29 (talk) 01:20, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I hear you. I personally feel there should be a separate page dedicated to Rivalries, and have a brief paragraph on the main page to link to it. Because I will agree its diving in too deep for a more general page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.39.208.218 (talk) 15:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually the Jags-Steelers rivilary is much larger and historic than the Steelers-Pats. The NFL knows it too. In the past there have been plenty of epic games between the two franchises. 2006 was a Monday Night Football Game, 2007 playoff game, 2008 Sunday Night Football. Not to mention the past altercations between Jax mascot: Jaxson de Ville and Dan Rooney as well as the supposed face mask call during the playoffs, Fred Taylor criticism of Heinz Field, etc... --Pennsylvania Penguin (talk) 15:46, 22 July 2008 (UTC) i know not fair  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meatbal49 (talk • contribs) 22:37, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

I think the rivalry section overall is questionable since rivalry tends to be a rather subjective classification. If rivals are included it should be limited to a few at most (you could make a case for any one of a dozen or so teams being their rivals)...the fact that there were a few hotly contested games in recent memory does not constitute a real rivalry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sefinke (talk • contribs) 21:02, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Overhaul
The Steelers WikiProject is currently overhauling the article here; anyone and everyone (inculding non-members of the project) is welcome and encouraged to help. All suggestions are welcome. Please leave them on the discussion page. Thank you.  Black  ngold29   16:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Steely McBeam merger proposal
I have proposed this merge becuase the article concerning Steely McBeam is very short. I have added a section to this article (See: Pittsburgh Steelers that I feel presents enough coverage of the mascot of the Steelers.  Black  ngold29   20:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Famous fans
The list of "famous fans" grows and grows, and yet none of them are sourced. I understand that most of them are fans, but a reliable source should be included for each one listed.  Black  ngold29   03:52, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Season-by season records
Hey everyone, I think we should include something like the past five seasons on this article. It seems to be what all of the other teams include. Thoughts?  Black  ngold29   04:48, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Restructure
I recently re-structured the whole article. To put is blatently: The quality of this article is not good at all. It certainly has quality info, but it is plagued from unneccessary detail (especially in the new section about ownership restructure) and WP:OR. I removed two whole sections: Memorable moments which was completely unsourced and easily POV and Unofficially retired numbers which shared the same problems. If there's anything you wish to discuss please let me know. Due to the large amount of edits this page gets I don't know if it will ever be able to be a GA for long, and to get it anywhere near the quality will take a lot of work.  Black  ngold29   19:57, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It probably should be it's own article. I saw on the Penguins article that they made mention of the new arena during the talks. I probably should just make an article and just place a link to it on the Steelers main article. It did get very long, very quickly. The whole Steelers restructure (or sale) will take a long time to complete. Dan Rooney has a lot of money to come up with, plus he has to battle Druckenmiller and other who may still become majority owner --Pennsylvania Penguin (talk) 21:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know if it warrent's its own article just yet. I added a paragraph to 2008 Pittsburgh Steelers season, which covers the basics. I think that same paragraph would also be adaquate for this article. If there is a long version, it should be in History of the Pittsburgh Steelers, but I don't know if it would be worth writing too much just yet, because not much has really happend.  Black  ngold29   23:39, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

"Other notable former players" section
I think this section should be removed. While there are a few interesting inclusions it has no criteria, and has basically become a list of favorite players. I can't see how it contributes to making the article any better. Are there any objections to its removal?  Black  ngold29   17:14, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There has been no opposition for a week now, I have removed the section.  Black  ngold29   20:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Ownership
The infobox on this page lists Dan Rooney as the owner of the Steelers, but his is only a part owner of team. This is inaccurate and the listing for owners of the team should read: The Rooney Family. Dan Rooney and his son only own %15 of the team. Each Rooney Brother owns %15 of the team, while the McGinely's own 20%. This breakdown shows that the majority owners of the team are the Rooney Brothers, not just Dan. Now this will probably change with the fighting over the Steelers by the Rooneys and may even lead to a possible new owner, but as for now the current owners are the Rooney Family.

Does anyone mind if I change this? --Pennsylvania Penguin (talk) 17:32, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I thought it was 16%, but no matter. Yeah it should probably be corrected.  Black  ngold29   18:38, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah it is 16%. My bad. --Pennsylvania Penguin (talk) 21:02, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Piece of Trivia
I don't know where to put this piece of Trivia, The steelers were the first team to win a game 10:11. SteelersRull (talk) 01:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It is documented in the 2008 Pittsburgh Steelers season article. I don't really think it's big enough to include here.  black ngold29  07:22, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Bill Cowher Era section problems
There are some mechanical issues in this section. Part of the rings photograph is overlapping some of the body text, and on the right side, there are three edit buttons next to each other. I'm not sure how to fix this, but I'd like to let someone know who does know how. Fdssdf (talk) 18:45, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Mike Tomlin now deserves his own section
Mike Tomlin should be separated from the Bill Cowher era. There should be a section created for Mike, discussing his accomplishments in the short period he has been with the Steelers' organization. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.117.7.128 (talk) 06:16, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. SteelersRull (talk) 01:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Requesting a re-format
Mostly the page states "Founded in 1933, Pittsburgh has won more Super Bowl titles (6), won more AFC Championship Games (7) and hosted more conference championship games (10) than any than any other AFC or NFC team." This information could be better organized for an easier read if it was listed under the Championships secton on the right or formatted similar to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFC_Championship_Game records section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MDThaDoc (talk • contribs) 00:18, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I concur that this section could stand to be reformatted.--Deejayk (talk) 05:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

That is incorrect information!The Dallas Cowboys have won 8 NFC Championship Games to the Pittsburg Steelers 7 AFC Championship Games NFC Championship Game Wildman74
 * The article states that the Steelers have won the most AFC Championship games, which is true. I would think that the article could include a reference to the Cowboys 8 SB appearances, though.--Deejayk (talk) 05:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Steeler Nation Page
Has anyone noticed that the Steeler Nation article associated with this one has been subject to a back-and-forth editing battle in regards to the content added by a particular user recently?

Specifically, the placement and wording of the “scientific study” at the beginning of the article, and the whole of the “Criticisms” section seem to only serve the purpose of being incendiary, opinionated, and demeaning.

While I’m not sure if these sections violate the letter of Wikipedia law, they appear to at least violate the spirit. Is there any way this situation can be cleaned up without devolving into a protracted edit war?

(Note: I would have added this to the article’s own talk page, but there doesn’t seem to be much traffic there.)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.20.61.57 (talk) 00:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Edit under Rivals Section
Regarding the Carson palmer knee injury in the Rivals section (Cincinnati Bengals), it was Kimo Von Olhoffen who collided with Palmer, not Casey Hampton. This is reflected in another of your Steeler articles. Just an FYI with a correction. Thanks.

Frank a loyal Steelers Fan


 * Done, thank you.  Grsz 11  22:19, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

The Eagles a rival? If anything, there is sympathetic little brother sentiment (not extended to hockey). Bturin (talk) 21:40, 10 March 2009 (UTC)Ben

I'd like to request that the decription of the Carson Palmer Injury in the Division Rivalry: Cincinnati section be edited to be less predujicial in tone —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.61.222.82 (talk) 15:34, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Lynn Swann TV Appearances / "Figures with broadcasting resumés" section
Shouldn't it be mentioned that Lynn Swann briefly had a recurring role on the show Family Matters as Aunt Rachel's love interest? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.171.51.108 (talk) 16:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * This seems like something that might be appropriate in the Lynn Swann article, but not on the franchise page. In fact, in my opinion the entire Figures with broadcasting resumés section could be excised completely without a negative impact on the quality of this article. If this section is to be retained, I would prefer to see it as a separate article.--Deejayk (talk) 04:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree the section should be removed. It's completely unsourced, doesn't include every former player who it into broadcasting, nor does it have a real significance to the franchise itself.  black ngold29  15:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I broke out this section into its own article. -- Deejayk (talk) 02:41, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Update: I attempted to move this section to its own article, until my change was reverted by Grsz11, who cited WP:SS. My argument is that this topic is not even sufficiently important to the overall topic of the Pittsburgh Steelers that it merits a summary in this article.  I gave it a link, and that's all I feel it deserves.  Any opinions? -- Deejayk (talk) 03:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I do not feel that such a list should be included in this article, let alone deserving of its own. I understand, and think that it is interesting, that the Steelers have a representitive on each network, but I don't think that means we should have a list which is basically WP:OR.  black ngold29  03:49, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with your assessment. My thinking was that by breaking the section out (rather than deleting it), I might assuage those who seem to feel any change this article (particularly deletion) is worth reverting &mdash; so much for that reasoning.  Maybe it's just not worth it to spend time on this project. -- Deejayk (talk) 04:07, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I took another swing at excising this section from the franchise article. I left a brief summary of the content and a link to the full article. -- Deejayk (talk) 21:27, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Mike Tomlin, Super Bowl champion
Under the Mike Tomlin Era, it should definitely be noted that he won Super Bowl XLIII and was just the second African-American coach to win a Super Bowl as a head coach. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HurricanesFan5 (talk • contribs) 00:37, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

John Mitchell article submitted for peer review
I have submitted the article on Steelers assistant head coach John Mitchell for peer review. Please take a look at the article and let me know what you think. -- Deejayk (talk) 17:58, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Ownership Restructure
surely that does deserve to have its own headline —Preceding unsigned comment added by SteelersLUFC (talk • contribs) 00:52, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

A request for a "Controversies" section.
The immaculate reception, Super Bowl XL, XLIII, and the 70s steroid dynasty all warrant a separate section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spartan9199 (talk • contribs) 17:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Somewhere there's the tiniest violin ever playing a medley of Elton John songs for you. 71.60.21.223 (talk) 01:15, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit request
Undo this edit please. It was missed, apparently. 71.126.47.230 (talk) 02:36, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ after verifying the source. -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 02:51, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Dick LeBeau listed as a Steelers Hall of Famer?
I don't agree with listing Dick LeBeau in the Pro Football Hall of Famers section of this article. LeBeau's only association with the Steelers is as a coach, whereas he was inducted into the HoF as a player (at least officially). Since he is still coaching, he is ineligible for induction based on his coaching performance.

While it is widely assumed that his coaching career played a large part in his selection, WP should not be used to document such assumptions.

If LeBeau is listed as a Steeler, then a guy like Russ Grimm (who also served as a Steelers assistant coach, but was inducted as a player and never played for the Steelers) should be listed as well. Clearly that is not what this list is meant to capture.&mdash; DeeJayK (talk) 15:26, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 24.239.103.55, 26 September 2010
24.239.103.55 (talk) 21:47, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Celestra (talk) 22:20, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Additional Notible Facts
I think it'd be worth noting in the article that Post-merger, the Steeler's have won more regular season games then any other NFL franchise (375 wins) and have a better regular season winning percentage than any other francise (60.7%). Also, in the history of the NFL (pre or post-merger) the Steelers have played in the second most playoff games (50, second to Dallas' 58), won the second most playoff games (31, second to Dallas' 33), and have the highest playoff winning percentage (62%). All these facts and more can be found at: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/tgl_finder.cgi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.179.65.158 (talk) 22:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit Request
The Steelers have won 6 Super Bowls, not 7 as stated in the season-by-season records section. Also, the first Super Bowl was played in 1967 and not 1970. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NealSNIK$ (talk • contribs) 18:25, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

and as defined by Roman Numerals are the only team to have appeared in a Super Bowl each decade.
Hi all, not the type to post discussion topics on facts but over the years there has been at least one deletion of this fact. So in the interest of good faith lets all go back to 7th grade math (or possibly even before). As we all recall there was never a year zero, a roman numeral zero, and decades begin with numerals ending in Is or numbers beginning in 1s. Again I am trying desperately not to sound elementary here but evidently there are a few wikipedians that not only don't seem to know this but seem so secure in their ignorance of this fact that they delete actual facts. So just to graphically put this to rest once and for all:

There was no Super Bowl ZERO, Thus 1967-1976 (2), 1977-1986 (2), 1987-1996 (1), 1997-2006 (1), 2007-Present (1)


 * Every 10 Super Bowls by decade:
 * FIRST DECADE BEGINS
 * 1st of 1st:I
 * 2nd of 1st:II
 * 3rd of 1st:III
 * 4th of 1st:IV
 * 5th of 1st:V
 * 6th of 1st:VI
 * 7th of 1st:VII
 * 8th of 1st:VIII
 * 9th of 1st:IX-1975 Steelers vs. Vikings
 * 10th of 1st:X-1976 Steelers vs. Cowboys
 * SECOND DECADE BEGINS
 * 1st of 2nd:XI
 * 2nd of 2nd:XII
 * 3rd of 2nd:XIII-1979 Steelers vs. Cowboys
 * 4th of 2nd:XIV-1980 Steelers vs. Rams
 * 5th of 2nd:XV
 * 6th of 2nd:XVI
 * 7th of 2nd:XVII
 * 8th of 2nd:XVIII
 * 9th of 2nd:XIX
 * 10th of 2nd:XX
 * THIRD DECADE BEGINS
 * 1st of 3rd:XXI
 * 2nd of 3rd:XXII
 * 3rd of 3rd:XXIII
 * 4th of 3rd:XXIV
 * 5th of 3rd:XXV
 * 6th of 3rd:XXVI
 * 7th of 3rd:XXVII
 * 8th of 3rd:XXVIII
 * 9th of 3rd:XXIX
 * 10th of 3rd:XXX Cowboys vs. Steelers
 * FOURTH DECADE BEGINS
 * 1st of 4th:XXXI
 * 2nd of 4th:XXXII
 * 3rd of 4th:XXXIII
 * 4th of 4th:XXXIV
 * 5th of 4th:XXXV
 * 6th of 4th:XXXVI
 * 7th of 4th:XXXVII
 * 8th of 4th:XXXVIII
 * 9th of 4th:XXXIX
 * 10th of 4th:XL Steelers vs. Seahawks
 * FIFTH DECADE BEGINS
 * 1st of 5th:XLI
 * 2nd of 5th:XLII
 * 3rd of 5th:XLIII Steelers vs. Cardinals
 * 4th of 5th:XLIV

As far as a point on relevance, I have yet to meet one (1) student, player, employee or fan of the National Football League that has ever told me a point like this is irrelevant. If this was an article on Nuclear Physics or Apple Pie I would defer to the experts (or at the very least multi-contributing wikipedian hobbyists) on the matter. I happen to be the latter on this matter. The Steelers' super bowl record is a small reflection of an ESPN study years ago that ranked all franchises on the 5+ wins a season vs. 5+ losses a season (stay with me here non-experts or non-hobbyists but then again you really shouldn't be considering deleting facts if you aren't comprehending this five by five) the Steelers ranked number 1 by a very large margin in this metric, and their super bowl appearances are a reflection of that. For those serious contributors and students of the game you would realize that is the very definition of relevance. For those just interested in randomly deleting facts based on something less then evidence (again trying to say this with all due belief that you are operating in good faith) let me take an extra minute and explain. The ESPN study conducted by former players, administrators and press professionals were ranking teams on their ability to sustain success and how they preformed throughout the generations (roughly consistent with the Super Bowl era, it ranked them based on post 1970 merger stats). ESPN and the players, admins and reporters knew the relevancy of the 5+ wins vs. 5+ losses measurement for the same reason appearances by decade can be relevant. It shows the difference between like the Patriots and Steelers, the Cowboys and the Colts, consistency vs. recent or historical greatness, a fact that is most relevant at everything from ticket purchases to black out television broadcasts to attendance at victory parades (Pittsburgh 350,000+, Indianapolis less than 10,000), those are very very hard things to call irrelevant.

Long story short I would never presume to delete facts from an Apple Pie or Nuclear Physics wiki page based on my view of "relevance". Facts by their very definition are relevant, my opinion on relevance of something I really don't live on a week by week basis is not any justification for deletion of facts on wikipedia, no matter how strongly I feel about them. In fact it's the basis for vandalism. Thank you for your time, contributions and future discussions prior to deletions. Hholt01 (talk) 12:42, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I see what you're getting at, but this looks like original research or original synthesis. Where have you ever seen a source that talks about the "decades" of the Super Bowl championships? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:22, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Baseball Bugs. To answer your question "decades" is what defines Super Bowls, I wish I could find a way to answer it more academically but that's pretty much it.  They do use Roman Numerals to "count" (we do count them in English not Latin so Super Bowl five and Super Bowl fifteen etc. defines eras in football more so then other sports using years as their decades).  Being that it is basically a "count-up" the only real thing it compares to is how we perceive years, which we also measure (in part) in decades.  Football is absolutely unique in this way to define its champions.  You may be asking what I can quote for "as defined by Roman Numerals are the only team to have appeared in a Super Bowl each decade." and the answer to that is I don't have anything at the moment, so if one claims "synthesis" you may have a point.  Using this point however does question other statements of "synthesis" fact in the Steelers page and wikipages such as the Los Angeles Lakers when citing "the most wins (3,027), the highest winning percentage (61.9%), and the most NBA Finals appearances (31)." in the fourth paragraph of that page (it does list not one but two citations but alas neither states what that quote claims).  So does the New York Yankees page "It has more championships than any other franchise in North American professional sports history, exceeding the 24 Stanley Cups won by the Montreal Canadiens" in which the three sources they cite two fail to defend that statement at all, and the third is a dead link.  Please let me know if we will be enforcing a strict NOR-delete-first policy, I will be happy to assist Wikipedia in deleting Laker, Yankee and yes Steeler, Pirate, Penguins, Browns, Buckeyes etc. facts or synthesis facts.  It is a guess on my part that these citations on sports wikipages are indeed factual interpretations of the data on which there is no dispute even if it might border on synthesis, that's why I hesitate deleting that the Yankees have the most titles or that the Lakers lead in winning percentage, total wins etc.  In coming full circle if NBA wins are defined by score after 60 minutes and Super Bowls are defined by Roman Numerals it's my humble opinion we should leave those synthesis facts (though no actual source quote exists) as encyclopedic. Thank you for discussing this matter and please let me know if we have consensus on strict NOR standards for all franchises.  Although I have expertise on the narrow band of topics I contribute to on Wikipedia, I am an eager student of wikipolicy so I look forward to any way I can further assist in making Wikipedia a great resource and am open to guidance on this.  I hate deletions but am willing to help if that is furthering wikipedia's goals.  Hholt01 (talk) 14:54, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Is this really necessary - doesn't the fact that they have appeared in the Superbowl in the past 5 actual decades (based on years) just as important accomplishment....I am not sure what is meant by "decades is what defines" Superbowls. The pitfall of this open editing on an emotional topic such as the Steelers is that everyone feels their own viewpoint is relevant - whether the facts exist or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sefinke (talk • contribs) 21:16, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

2nd Paragraph Misinformation
The second paragraph of the opening paragraphs says that Pittsburgh is the 5th oldest franchise. I know that this is taken directly from PDF of the 2007 Media guide, which is referenced. However, it is simply false.

The Steelers, along with the Eagles, are tied for 7th-oldest. The older teams, in order, are the Cardinals, the Bears, the Packers, the Giants, the Lions, and the Redskins.

I suggest simply deleting that first phrase and retaining the rest of the sentence as is. Joshuaag (talk) 16:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Since no one has responded I have followed your suggestions to remove the first phrase which, while cited, is clearly incorrect. - Ektar (talk) 04:33, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Unoffically retired numbers
Do you have a reference for this list of numbers? Without a source it has the appearance of being just a list of great players.

Dk100 (talk) 17:26, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree. The list is both unreferenced and missing criteria for membership. Please add  and  immediately below the section heading for Pittsburgh Steelers.  Thanks in advance. 68.165.77.208 (talk) 01:32, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I added the  to the section. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 22:02, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I removed this entire section. I've never seen a source that indicates that the Steelers keep some list of "unoffically retired" numbers. Sure, these numbers haven't been re-assigned, but until the team announces that they are officially retired, such a list has no place in an encyclopedic entry. &mdash; DeeJayK (talk) 19:31, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I think this section should be added back in. Here's a reputable source, as well as this  Charles (Kznf) (talk) 23:45, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request from 70.123.97.97, 4 February 2011
edit semi-protected

The article states that the Steelers were the only NFL team to draft four or even three future hall of famers in a single draft. It is true that they were the only team to draft four future hall of famers in one year but it is not true that no other team has not drafted three future hall of famers in one year. The Dallas Cowboys drafted Bob Hayes, Mel Renfro, and Roger Staubach in the 1964 draft and all three are in the hall of fame. Change the statement from "The Pittsburgh Steelers' 1974 draft was their best ever, and no other team has ever drafted four or even three future Hall of Famers in one year, and only very few (including the 1970 Steelers) have drafted two in one year." to "The Pittsburgh Steelers' 1974 draft was their best ever, and no other team has ever drafted four Hall of Famers in one year, and only very few (including the 1970 Steelers) have drafted three in one year."

70.123.97.97 (talk) 23:42, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: Hopefully satisfactory. -Atmoz (talk) 14:52, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from MRbucks1997, 20 February 2011
To edit the away jeresey and remove the superbowl 45 logo

MRbucks1997 (talk) 16:35, 20 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes check.svg Done. The image has been reverted. However, you may need to refresh your web browser's cache to see the updated image. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 17:16, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Cjpump, 8 September 2011
After this section:

Fight songs

The Steelers have no official fight song, but many fan versions of "Here we go Steelers" and the "Steelers Polka" by ethnic singer "Jimmy Pol", both originating in the 1970s, have been recorded. During Steelers games, Styx's "Renegade" is often used to rally the crowd. Also, considered the fight song of the Pittsburgh Steelers is as of the 2010 NFL Season is Black and Yellow by Wiz Khalifa.

Should be added:

In 2011, SloFunkPump released "Steelers Anthem (Est. 1933)", an original fight song that contains specific references to "black" and "gold" and steel sounds.

These links may be helpful as part of the entry are as its bibliography:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl9gkGTAfwY&feature=channel_video_title http://www.slofunkpump.com Cjpump (talk) 06:52, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Cjpump (talk) 06:52, 8 September 2011 (UTC)


 * "Youtube" is not a reliable source.  Chzz  ► 01:39, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Are the steelers the best team in the power rankings overall this season other than the Packers? Manofmyth (talk) 19:35, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 10 December 2011
Please change, "The franchise has won the most regular season games.." to "At the start of the 2011 season, the franchise has won the most regular season games(384; Miami Dolphins are second at 379).."

Reason: Gives specifics and thus improves accuracy. Source: Using a calculator and adding the win totals from 1970-2010. Double checked the results.

206.45.1.23 (talk) 21:18, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It is good to see the awareness of the need for a source, but " " does not meet WP:CITE requirements. Please supply a reference that could be cited. 72.244.200.39 (talk) 07:31, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 26 January 2012
The Denver Broncos section under Rivals should be updated to reflect their seventh playoff meeting, along with the results, and the historical significance of the first overtime game under the NFL's new rules

Reason: Current page is out of date


 * Done, updated it but left "neither team has won more than 3 in a row", is that still accurate? MarketDiamond 05:55, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that is still correct. The first part of the section needs to be revised still however, as the Broncos and Raiders are no longer tied. Also believe it should read Tim Tebow led, not Tim Tebow lead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.37.244.132 (talk) 00:52, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Logo and uniforms
It is mentionned in this section that Pittsburg is unique in having the teams of its city using all the same colors. That might be an exageration; I can at least think of Montreal, whose Expos (R.I.P.), Canadiens and Allouettes are all Red White and Blue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.203.245.6 (talk) 13:58, 6 October 2008‎
 * Who are the Allouettes? I don't know if the Pittsburgh color thing is true, but at this point they seem to be the only one with three major sports teams (of the four major sports leagues MLB, NHL, NFL, NBA) to share.  Black  ngold29   14:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The Allouettes is the Canadian Football League (CFL) team from Montreal. (Had to do some research myself to find that.)
 * Perhaps it's prudent to say it's the only "American" city with a shared color scheme for all three of their major professional sports teams.
 * Interesting sidebar - Pittsburgh's first [indoor] soccer team (the Pittsburgh Spirit) had the team colors as also Black & Gold. I seem to remember reading somewhere that the city has on the books that it is encouraged for all professional sports teams to share the same color scheme.  (I don't think it's a civic law or anything like that.)  The city's flag and seal are also black & gold.  Black & Gold is also the team colors for our Continental Basketball Team (Xplosion) & our women's football team (Pittsburgh Passion).  The current soccer team (The Riverhounds) uses black, blue, & white.  Our Rugby team (The Harlequins) uses red, white, & blue.  The defunct USFL Maulers were Orange and Purple.  Before moving to Tampa Bay and being renamed "The Storm," our arena football team (Pittsburgh Galdiators) wore blue and gold. Medleystudios72 (talk) 15:31, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The statement in the article "unique to Pittsburgh" is ambiguous. What is unique to Pittsburgh? The black and gold coloring? The fact that the coloring scheme is shared by all their professional sports teams?  The fact that the coloring is shared by 3 professional sports teams? Furthermore, I'm requesting a citation for this alleged fact.  Seattle consistently uses green/blue and optionally silver in almost all of their sports teams' colors, the Sounders, the Mariners, and the Seahawks.  They also have minor league teams that use this coloring scheme, the Thunderbirds in the WHL. The Sonics, however, do not follow the pattern and use green and gold.Mojodaddy (talk) 21:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually - the Harlequins are not the only Pittsburgh Rugby team - the Pittsburgh Rugby Club - which is actually the more high profile team in the area does wear black and gold - of course neither of these teams are professional. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sefinke (talk • contribs) 21:06, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

PcGnome (talk) 10:46, 28 September 2012 (UTC) If the team colors are Black, Gold & White - how does one explain that orange stripe down the middle of the helmet? My guess is that they didn't want a suggestion of a "yellow stripe down the back" calling into question their courage. At the very least, if orange is a color on the team's helmets, shouldn't it at least be mentioned as one of the team's colors?

PcGnome (talk) 10:46, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The helmet stripe appears to be gold (in the Black helmet color-scheme)) or black (if the yellow helmet scheme is being used). Shearonink (talk) 11:50, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

PcGnome (talk) 13:33, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Well, I have the image that shows clearly orange stripes on four helmets and three gold sleeves. Screen capture from a preseason game 2012-08-09 between the Steelers & Eagles. Apparently I need to write an article just to bring it here as talk pages are not allowed. If anyone can tell me how to show it here, I'd sure appreciate it. Hopefully it would meet "fair use" conditions, but the more I read, the less I understand.

PcGnome (talk) 13:33, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

For the record, the best view is from the back of the helmet straight on - a view that is maddeningly hard to locate. Some front helmet views look gold and some look orange. All views from the rear that I've seen look orange to me.

If you have the game available, it's 4 minutes 57.961 seconds into the game.

PcGnome (talk) 13:37, 28 September 2012 (UTC) PcGnome (talk) 13:38, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You would need to find a published reliable source that states the colors are as you describe. If no published reliable sources state that 'the helmet color-stripe is orange', then that assertion cannot be added to the article.  To add an unpublished color description that is as described by an private individual would constitute original research (which is against Wikipedia guidelines).  After all, one of the fundamental principles of Wikipedia is that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, which means Wikipedia is a repository of published information from independent reliable sources.  Hope this helps, Shearonink (talk) 14:33, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Well, that's kind of why I don't put things in the article, but raise them on talk pages where I stand less chance of running foul of rules I don't clearly understand (clearly don't understand?).

So, gold is a version of yellow - then it seems the Pittsburgh Steelers DO have a yellow streak running down their back, right?

Nevertheless, I change my question to "how come the stated gold stripe on the helmet looks very orange?".

The gold stripe is stated way down this page:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_meaning_of_the_Pittsburgh_Steelers_emblem

For reference, I hope the following link is reasonably acceptable. If not, I'm sure some knowledgeable soul will correct it. Until then, the picture in question can be seen here:

http://bayimg.com/haDKbAaec

PcGnome (talk) 14:27, 28 September 2012 (UTC) PcGnome (talk) 15:06, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
 * The color is the color, the interpretation of that color is what needs to be found in a published reliable source. What you think the color is and what I think the color is are both irrelevant...how the color is regarded has to be found in a published reliable source.  A reliable source is a published source with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy and that also has editorial oversight.  If an article in Sports Illustrated or in the New York Times or from a similar type of publication characterizes the stripe-color as being orange, then that statement, along with a citation to the source, could probably be included in the article.  In regards to your link from "wiki.answers.com"...References from user-submitted websites (which have no editorial oversight and can be changed at will by readers), such as "answers.com" (or even other Wikipedia articles), cannot be used as a source for a statement in a Wikipedia article. Shearonink (talk) 15:37, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Request for Comment: Steeler Nation Criticism
Please feel free to read & comment here. Thank you. Marketdiamond (talk) 14:32, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 September 2012
Please add this following information about Dick LeBeau to the article because LeBeau's legendary defense coaching skills have helped the Steelers to succeed in 2 superbowls since returning to as the Steelers Defense Coordinator in 2004.

Dick LeBeau, otherwise known as "Coach Daddy" first joined the Steelers coaching staff as secondary head coach beginning in 1992. From 1995-1997 Dick LeBeau returned as the Defensive Coordinator of the Steelers, and aiding in the Steelers road to Superbowl XXX against the Dallas Cowboys. Leaving the Steelers coaching staff in 1997, LeBeau went on to coach the Cincinnati Bengals. Upon his return to the Steelers as Defensive Coordinator in 2004, then coaching the Steelers to win two more superbowls in that time. Dick LeBeau has also been inducted into te Honored Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2012 for his coaching and his years as a player.

Chyaxjess (talk) 01:50, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: mainly due to lack of reliable sources provided. The proposed wording also needs to be copy edited for grammar issues. For example, the "Upon his return..." statement is not a complete sentence. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 14:04, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Ownership
Now that Haslam is the owner of the Cleveland Browns, does he retain any shares in the Steelers? I'd assume not, but we need a source for any edits to be made.Leon Stauffer (talk) 22:27, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

He does not retain any shares. With his buyout, the largest shareholders are now Art Rooney II, the Paul family, and Dan Rooney and his children. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1357asd (talk • contribs) 17:37, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Proposed split into Pittsburgh Steelers training camp
I propose splitting Pittsburgh Steelers into Pittsburgh Steelers training camp. I think there will be enough material sources to justify an article. Any comment?--GrapedApe (talk) 13:01, 10 January 2013 (UTC) Support There's more than enough material to justify its own article. Jgera5 (talk) 01:15, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * See also Commons:Category:Pittsburgh Steelers training camp--GrapedApe (talk) 13:02, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Home Field
The phrase is "home field", and "homefield" is not a word in the English language. Beware making compound words that are not in common use. Likewise, "home court", "home turf", and "home pool" are the correct spellings. 98.67.110.98 (talk) 01:50, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
You need the wikilink Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.98.67.110.98 (talk) 02:02, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Pittsburgh Steelers
The Pittsburgh Steelers is the oldest franchise in the AFC, and NOT the Pittsburgh Steelers are the oldest franchise... The Pittsburgh Steelers is a corporation and all corporations are singular, such as General Motors is..., Texas Instruments is..., Cisco Systems is..., and Delta Air Lines is... 98.67.110.98 (talk) 02:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Steelers-Titans franchise rivalry
Somebody should add that the 1979 AFC Championship game had that infamous play. It's no small detail. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.81.33.59 (talk) 04:34, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2014
In the area of retired numbers Jack Ham (number 59) is listed. In 1984 LB Todd Seabaugh was given his number. Todd was only with the team one year and the number has not been assigned since, but he did have it. In fact on another wikipedia page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Seabaugh - it mentions he had Jack Ham's number.

108.64.166.53 (talk) 18:03, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I found a reference to confirm this, and added the reference, with a link to it, to the article. I'm a bit concerned about how to handle this in the main article about the team without taking anything away from Ham's legacy and giving undue weight to Seabaugh. Maybe an asterisk and a footnote is appropriate. I see that an admin has lowered protection to the "pending changes" level, so perhaps you could submit a pending change with your suggested means of clarifying this minor detail, then someone could review it. Thanks. Wbm1058 (talk) 12:51, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Is white an "official color"?
In response to this pending revision by 74.178.41.86 which was rejected. I think that all teams have "Color" and "White" uniforms, for home and away games. Is it necessary to state the obvious, that white is an "official" color, if every team in the league has to have a white uniform? Comparing with the articles for other teams, I see that many do state that white is an official color, however others, such as the Green Bay Packers and Oakland Raiders pages do not. Wbm1058 (talk) 17:34, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

See Away colours for more discussion about white uniforms. Dallas Cowboys of course lists white as an official team color. Wbm1058 (talk) 18:07, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Grammar
Should the pronoun used for the noun "family" be "which" or "who?" This AP Style Manual rules discussion uses "which." http://www.kuediting.com/grammar/qa-is-a-family-a-‘who’-or-a-‘that’/ RaqiwasSushi (talk) 17:44, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

Number of Super Bowl Appearances
The paragraph "In contrast with their status as perennial also-rans in the pre-merger NFL, where Pittsburgh were the oldest team to never win a championship, the Steelers are one of the most successful NFL franchises of the modern era. Pittsburgh has won more Super Bowl titles (six), won more AFC Championship Games (eight), and played in (fifteen) and hosted more (eleven) conference championship games than any other NFL team. The Steelers share the record for most Super Bowl appearances with the Dallas Cowboys (eight)." should be changed to read "In contrast with their status as perennial bottom-dwellers in the pre-merger NFL, where Pittsburgh was the oldest team to never win a league championship, the Steelers of the post-merger era are one of the most successful NFL franchises. Pittsburgh has won more Super Bowl titles (six) and played in (fifteen) and hosted more (eleven) conference championship games than any other NFL team. They share the record for most AFC Championships with the New England Patriots (eight) and also share the record for most Super Bowl appearances with the New England Patriots and Dallas Cowboys (eight)." - Thank you, Joshua 98.28.129.216 (talk) 04:43, 19 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Joshua. While changes to the page are subject to review, you should be able to edit this page yourself. Simply click the "Edit" button towards the top right of the article. Please see H:EDIT for help on how to edit, or ask if you have any questions.  meamemg (talk) 02:54, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Looking at List of Pittsburgh Steelers seasons, I see that while their status in the pre-merger NFL might be characterized as "perennial also-rans", they were not "perennial bottom-dwellers". The latter implies that they always finished in last place. There were several years when they finished in second place: 1942, 47, 49 and 1962. Wbm1058 (talk) 05:11, 20 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I updated that part of the lead section, reflecting the Patriots' win on Sunday, and confirmed the records with List of National Football League records (team) and AFC Championship Game. Wbm1058 (talk) 06:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Jerome Bettis
Jerome Bettis is left out of the Hall of Fame section — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megacheez (talk • contribs) 00:13, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2016
I edited one part (Line 98) in a passage in the Mike Tomlin era...you decided to revert my edit because according to you, no change was needed.

Yes, it needs that change. The last time the Steelers lost more than 11 games was during Chuck Noll's inaugural season in 1969 (1-13). Since then, they have never lost more than 11 games in a season REGARDLESS of whether it was a 14-game or a 16-game season. They DID lose 13 games in 1969, so they have not lost 12 games or more for the past 46 seasons. That counts for something! Please re-consider the reversion of my edit. Thank you.

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Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. We would require a source stating that they did not have a 12+ loss season since 1969. meamemg (talk) 23:55, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

2015 Season
Under the "Mike Tomlin Era" section:

Change X: Through the 2014 season, Tomlin's record is 87–50. He is the first Pittsburgh coach without a losing season. The 2014 season was known for record performances from the "killer B's". This trio consisted of Antonio Brown, Ben Rothlisberger and Leveon Bell.

To Y: In the 2015 season, Mike Tomlin hit his 90th win with the Steelers, making him the third head coach to do so. The Pittsburgh Steelers finished their season with a 16-23 loss to the Denver Broncos on January 17th. His total record currently stands at 92-52
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Black and Gold
Are the colors of the Steelers notable for the disambiguation page Black and Gold? See also move proposal at Talk:Black and Gold (Sam Sparro song). In ictu oculi (talk) 18:36, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Colors deleted from disambiguation page again. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:45, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Add info to pittsburgh steelers page
How do i do it? A needed update Plumed (talk) 01:00, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2017
In the ownership section of the Pittsburgh Steelers, certain owners including Robert Citrone of Discovery Capital and David Tepper of Appaloosa Capital are missing. The article should list Rob Citrone of Discovery Capital; David Tepper of Appalooa Management.

Also, the article should change the order to start with the Paul Family, and then, Citrone, Tepper, and Rauner and then Thomas Tull as that is the order of ownership percentage. Guacchamp (talk) 01:35, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
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Top 3 Players on the Steelers team
So far we all know that the Steelers are the best team in the National Football League but do we all know who are the top 3 offensive players on the team well no need to do your research there because I already know. At number 3 we have La'Veon Bell the running back. The reason I put him at number 3 is because he's super awesome but not good enough to be number 1 or 2. He doesn't always get the ball (not his fault) but that reason would be at his practices, if you will he must not be as good as the other 2. Now, at number 2, we the Big Ben. The QB for the Steelers. Now he's at number 3 because sometimes he throws interceptions but that's very rarely. Usually he's just plain flawless. He throws touchdown passes bout every 5 seconds. That is why Big Ben deserves to be number 2. And now, at number 1, the wide receiver legend we have Antonio Brown. He's at number one because the only times he doesn't run touchdowns (very rarely) he's running the ball like 80 yards down the whole field. The other reason is he can also slip through the crowd like a piece of paper. Thank you so much for your time and I will see you the next time put something else out. Byyyeeeee!!!!!

Poiklaq (talk) 00:21, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Ownership detail (Rauner)
Listing should include that Rauner is also Governor of Illinois.

64.186.55.2 (talk) 17:26, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 January 2017
not only are you article writers redundant, but you repeat yourselves.

"The Steelers share the record for most AFC championships with the New England Patriots and the Denver Broncos (8), and the record for most conference championship games played in with the San Francisco 49ers (15). The Steelers share the record for most Super Bowl appearances with the Patriots, Broncos, and Dallas Cowboys (8). " Mariofan794 (talk) 04:45, 29 January 2017 (UTC)


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Leveon
change ((Leveon Bell)) to ((Le'Veon Bell))

Done meamemg (talk) 19:15, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Rothlisberger
change ((Ben Rothlisberger)) to ((Ben Roethlisberger))

Done meamemg (talk) 20:32, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

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Ownership
The ownership table should be updated to reflect the Paul family as the second largest owner of the steelers. an article written in the la times on 10/24/17 makes that reference. http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-steelers-paul-red-cross-award-20171024-story.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steerate1 (talk • contribs) 04:03, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Season by season records section
Needs to be updated. The Steelers are not tied for first in super bowl appearances at 8, New England has 9 (maybe ten after January 21, 2018) Hercbat8 (talk) 15:02, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

New England Patriots rivalry
This needs updating. The Patriots currently hold a 16-15 overall series advantage Source: https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/new-england-patriots/teamvsteam?opp=25

Hercbat8 (talk) 15:40, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2018
hi ɓɶɗɗضصصدīجف Joyridejunkie (talk) 00:54, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2018
In the ownership section, move the paul family to the top as they have been identified multiple times in the press as the second largest shareholder behind art rooney. the quote, "Paul played a key role in several philanthropic partnerships, including ones with Disney and the NFL. His family is the second-largest owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers." comes from the LA times nfl writer. the article citation is http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-steelers-paul-red-cross-award-20171024-story.html#. Steerate2 (talk) 00:33, 6 July 2018 (UTC) Steerate2 (talk) 00:33, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: Did not add the quote, as I am unsure whether you want to add it and where to put it. --Danski454 (talk) 12:36, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Ownership
The ownership table should be updated to reflect the Paul family as the second largest owner of the steelers. an article written in the la times on 10/24/17 makes that reference. http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-steelers-paul-red-cross-award-20171024-story.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steerate1 (talk • contribs) 04:03, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Season by season records section
Needs to be updated. The Steelers are not tied for first in super bowl appearances at 8, New England has 9 (maybe ten after January 21, 2018) Hercbat8 (talk) 15:02, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

New England Patriots rivalry
This needs updating. The Patriots currently hold a 16-15 overall series advantage Source: https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/new-england-patriots/teamvsteam?opp=25

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Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2018
hi ɓɶɗɗضصصدīجف Joyridejunkie (talk) 00:54, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2018
In the ownership section, move the paul family to the top as they have been identified multiple times in the press as the second largest shareholder behind art rooney. the quote, "Paul played a key role in several philanthropic partnerships, including ones with Disney and the NFL. His family is the second-largest owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers." comes from the LA times nfl writer. the article citation is http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-steelers-paul-red-cross-award-20171024-story.html#. Steerate2 (talk) 00:33, 6 July 2018 (UTC) Steerate2 (talk) 00:33, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
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Team nicknames?
I can see how Steel Curtain can be used as a team nickname, but I'm not so sure that Steeler Nation is appropriate here. That's a nickname for the fanbase, not the team. Guessing we can't change a heading on an Infobox template? If that's true, we should probably find a better place to mention Steeler Nation. Just my two-cents worth. OrdinaryArtery (talk) 21:08, 27 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Agreed. I removed it since it's about the fanbase. The "Black and Gold" is a nickname I've heard, and "Blitzburgh" is also still fairly common. Just a simple Google search for "Blitzburgh" comes up with several Steelers entries. --JonRidinger (talk) 23:04, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Antonio Brown's #84
Should not be listed as not re-issued. He was traded and didn't retire, therefore the number is still open to be reissued. 2605:A000:1102:631F:DC0F:8E0:B0A8:838E (talk) 21:05, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 03 May 2019

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Brown's #84 should be removed from the not re-issued numbers, as Brown was traded and didn't retire from the team. 2605:A000:1102:631F:18C:BE19:4BCF:B98C (talk) 15:59, 10 May 2019 (UTC)


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Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2020
Will the color rush alternate uniforms be added to the chart? Pitt3484 (talk) 04:43, 21 January 2020 (UTC)


 * ❌. It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 05:01, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Updated Jerseys
To clarify, on the right side of the page where the jerseys are illustrated, why are the Color Rush alternate uniforms not displayed? Sorry for the confusion before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pitt3484 (talk • contribs) 04:24, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2020
To clarify, on the right side of the page where the jerseys are illustrated, why are the Color Rush alternate uniforms not displayed? Sorry for the confusion before. Pitt3484 (talk) 04:00, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


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Semi-protected edit request on 21 February 2021
Randy fichner isn’t the offensive coordinator anymore. Matt Canada is the new offensive coordinator 174.242.140.227 (talk) 16:19, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 17:09, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 December 2021
Change The announcers are Bill Hillgrove and Tunch Ilkin. Craig Wolfley is the sideline reporter. to The announcers are Bill Hillgrove and Craig Wolfley. Max Starks is the sideline reporter.

Note: Tunch Ilkin passed away on 4 September 2021. 148.87.23.8 (talk) 19:17, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Sirdog (talk) 21:00, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2022
In the NFL's "modern era" (since the AFL–NFL merger in 1970) the Steelers have posted the best record in the league. In 2017, they became the first team to reach 450 victories in the regular season since the 1970 merger. [27] The franchise has won the most regular-season games, the most playoff games (33 playoff wins; the Dallas Cowboys are second with 32), won the most divisional titles (20), has played in the most conference championship games (15), hosted the most conference championship games (11), and is tied with the Dallas Cowboys, the Denver Broncos and the New England Patriots for the most Super Bowl appearances (8). The Steelers have the best winning percentage (including every expansion team), earned the most All-Pro nominations, and have accumulated the most Super Bowl wins (6) since the modern game started in 1970. In 2017, they became the first team to reach 450 victories in the regular season since the 1970 merger. [27][28] The Steelers are 36-26 (.580) in the postseason, with all but one (the 1947 playoff) having been played since the merger.

This section has inaccurate information about the Steelers records. They no longer have the most super bowl appearances, division championships, and are now tied with the New England patriots for the most super bowl wins, please change this section to reflect that. 108.20.178.27 (talk) 14:08, 4 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —Kpddg  (talk)  03:34, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2022
Under the table, "Pittsburgh Steelers Hall of Famers," Kevin Green should be included. Currently, this player is under the table, "Steelers in the Hall for contributions elsewhere," which is incorrect. The source included is also irrelevant and pertains to a separate person entirely. The proper source for this is as follows: https://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/greene-chooses-steelers-not-rams-for-ring-ceremony/article_0c6cb3e5-9f54-505c-b576-3c296252e3d1.html. This is also confirmed on the Kevin Greene page, with this sourrce. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Greene_(American_football) 216.250.42.178 (talk) 03:09, 18 January 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ but if I messed up the chart by accident please ping me casualdejekyll  20:27, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello. I was wondering if someone could amend Kevin Greene's time with the Steelers to 1993-1995. He played three seasons there.
 * Thank you. 108.29.18.127 (talk) 05:42, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ This was amended on 4/18/22. Bringingthewood (talk) 04:30, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Mike Tomlin
One article of information that can be added is that Mike Tomlin has never had a losing season. https://theshadowleague.com/mike-tomlin-becomes-first-coach-in-nfl-history-with-15-consecutive-non-losing-seasons-get-his-hall-of-fame-bust-ready-now/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grace.k.e. (talk • contribs) 19:56, 31 January 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ This information is listed under "The Mike Tomlin era" section. Bringingthewood (talk) 04:40, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Steeler Training Camp
Underneath the tap holding information entitled "Steeler Training Camp," the information will need to be changed. As of recent, and because of the Covid-19 pandemic, Steeler training camp has been held at Heinz Field, in Pittsburgh, PA, instead of at Saint Vincent College in Latrobe, PA. Grace.k.e. (talk) 19:44, 31 January 2022 (UTC) https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/steelers-2021-training-camp-tracking-tuesdays-practice-at-heinz-field/ar-AAMCHNT#:~:text=The%20Pittsburgh%20Steelers%20are%20now%20in%20full%20swing,there%20is%20still%20plenty%20to%20report%20about%20practice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grace.k.e. (talk • contribs) 20:02, 31 January 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ This information is now listed under the "Training camp" section. Bringingthewood (talk) 05:17, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Something to consider adding
I am not sure if this is something that would be considered as relevant, but in correlation with the mascot, Steely McBeam, information could be added about the former Steeler cheerleading squad, the Steelerettes. They were dissolved in 1969, but it is historical to the Steelers because they were one of the first teams in the NFL to declare a cheerleading squad, and now, they are one of the only NFL teams without one. Grace.k.e. (talk) 19:49, 31 January 2022 (UTC) http://www.brooklineconnection.com/history/Facts/Steelerettes.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grace.k.e. (talk • contribs) 19:59, 31 January 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ This information is now listed under the "Culture" section. Bringingthewood (talk) 06:34, 5 June 2022 (UTC)