Talk:Platform screen doors

Barcelona
There is at least one station in Barcelona that has platform screen doors as well, but oddly enough these screen doors only stretch along half of the station, therefore rendering them useless. --Abdull 11:29, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Lists

 * I am beginning to wonder if a long list of airport people-mover systems with platform edge doors (which is, well, just about all the airport people-movers I've seen) is terribly worthwhile in the context of this article - they don't say that much that's new. --Mike 23:46, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Re Japan: Platform screen doors have been used on all the Automated elevated LRT systems since the Portliner opened in Kobe in 1981. the Osaka new tram (not a tram but an automated elevated LRT),the Rokko liner (in Kobe again) and the Yurikamome in Tokyo, are the best known examples. JLB from Vancouver

PSD or PED?
In the first pic of Paris' metro, the caption says that it is a Platform Screen Door. But according to the first paragraph, it should be considered a Platform Edge Door since the door does not reach full height towards the ceiling. Just to clarify... Herenthere 04:00, 4 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The search results from Google Images for both terms do not indicate any difference in meaning. Stating a difference is original but not even research. The "Types" section has a 'citation needed' tag since 2011. Seven years is more than enough. I'm going to delete that statement. --Rainald62 (talk) 12:05, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Cleanup
I feel that the lists that appear in the article should be removed and replaced with more reader-friendly sentences. Stephenchou0722 03:52, 25 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Agree, it is now completely senseless to list all the system which has applied the PSD. I'm not a native English speaker, so here are my suggestion to rewrite the article: Horizontal Lift of Saint-Petersburg Metro should be mentioned first in the History part. And then refering to VAL. Finally only selecting few representative examples in the list like the MTR, installing PSD during operation; Paris Metro, the unique vault-supporting design. -- Sameboat - 同舟 16:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

List
The directory of who-has-what was unverified, permanently incomplete and failed WP:NOT. I've left up the Singapore example. By all means find sources which detail notable events or incidents involving screen doors (such as the claim a guy jumped over and died in Japan) and include them.  Dei z  talk 08:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Atlanta airport
I know that the Atlanta airport has a short subway system that employs platform screen doors. Would this be appropriate to include here? That's the only example of PSDs I can think of in the United States, but the article makes it sound like none exist at all. 68.216.95.39 (talk) 16:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds great! But you would need to try and find at least one reference about it, and even better with a picture (in Wikipedia of course)! -Herenthere (Talk) 22:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * The majority -- perhaps all -- of the nearly twenty automated airport people movers (which are arguably distinct from "subway systems") in the U.S. have some form of platform screen door. You can find a list of these systems at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airport_people_mover_systems -- we can include these as a distinct subsection of the article, if necessary, but it is inadvisable to include separate line-items for the SeaTac or Atlanta systems, especially if they are inaccurately described as "unique."

Reduction of Singapore section
Copied from user talk:Sameboat:

I would like to ask about the undoing of my edit on the article mentioned above. I would like to clarify these statements:

1. I was just indicating the manufacturer of the platform screen doors in the Singapore paragraph. 2. The Changi Airport Skytrain's previous batch of platform screen doors did feature train service buttons, but based on my previous experience with these doors I felt that these buttons were unnecessary (unless you were in a rush), and that was probably why the present batch of doors did not feature these buttons. 3. The Changi Airport Skytrain's previous batch of platform screen doors featured the Westinghouse Electric (1886) logo on the doors' edges, even though there is a huge difference between that and the Westnghouse Brake And Systems Co. Ltd..

I hope you provide a good reason for this edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbssbs (talk • contribs) 09:36, 23 March 2009 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I plan to further trim the contents of Singapore section. As stated in my edit summary, and there's lacking of citation to backup your fact. Even they're well sourced, it should be moved to the respective Singapore railway article rather than here. And I feel your materials to be trivially detailed. Reasons for installing PSD in Singapore also reduplicate the statements in Door types section which is quite redundant. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk) 11:14, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Solid 'lift type' doors
The Gatwick airport terminal transit (currently closed for renovation) had these, the train was only visible through the windows at the end of the platform.

Doors are visible at the end of these videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iow4Y0RYst4&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bvjH1mNRXQ&feature=related —Preceding unsigned comment added by Markxz (talk • contribs) 22:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Why was edit reverted?
To User Morel: Can you give me a reason why you removed the video example I added? 211.47.82.160 (talk) 17:55, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You should add outgoing links at the end of the article in a separate section.--Morel (talk) 17:59, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

About the list of pictures
I am beginning to feel that there are way too much pictures of examples of PSDs around the world. Does it really help the reader in any way? No. Some of them should be removed. レミリア・ スカーレット~Scarlet Devil (talk) 03:10, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Footnote 12 goes to the wrong place/date.
Footnote 12 about a Shanghai fatality leads to a newpaper site, but the site is to the current issue, not the one covering the accident. Can some-one fix this?Kdammers (talk) 05:27, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Climate Control
The section on Platform Screen Doors states as an advantage:

"Improve climate control within the station (heating, ventilation, and air conditioning are more effective when the station is physically isolated from the tunnel)."

Then under disadvantages:

"They also impede natural ventilation, increasing climate control costs."

Something of a contradiction. --212.62.26.100 (talk) 13:58, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Gallery purpose
A photo gallery should not automatically be deprecated for existing, without any consideration of its purpose and alternatives. The purpose of the gallery in this article is to show the diversity of platform screen door installations around the world, with many different designs and functions. The existence of the galley also makes it easier to restrict photos in the main body of the article to images which relate directly to the text they are adjacent to. The tendency of random editors to keep stuffing in photos still requires monitoring and pruning, but removing the gallery completely will reduce the overall quality and completeness of the article. Reify-tech (talk) 17:32, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

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Longest platform doors/gates?
Currently, the article reads (section Japan): "In 2018, automatic platform gates will be installed on the Sōbu Rapid Line platforms at Shin-Koiwa. As these trains are 300 m (980 ft) long, it is believed that this will break the world record for the longest platform doors at East Tsim Sha Tsui Station in Hong Kong." The picture in one of the references makes it seem like the gates installed on the Soubu line will be gates and not full-height doors.

However, the Toukaidou Shinkansen currently operates trains of around 400 m length and has platform gates on certain stations (e.g. Kyouto and Yokohama, iirc). That would render both records moot since the Shinkansen is a good 100 metres longer. Did I miss something? – 2405:6584:82A0:2600:C8F3:59BA:BC2A:B328 (talk) 15:26, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

History
The Singapore MRT is indicated as "the first metro system in the world to incorporate glass PSDs into its stations for safety reasons, rather than due to architectural constraints" but the fully automated Lille Metro predate it by five year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:CB08:81F9:BA00:8189:6200:2C28:8551 (talk) 00:01, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Automatic platform gate into Platform screen doors
These devices are virtually identical in purpose, just differing in design. Considering lack of citations for this specific topic, should we consider merging the two topics? There is much that can be discussed together about both technologies. « « «  SOME GADGET GEEK  » » » (talk) 09:31, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge The subjects of these articles are so similar that in my opinion Automatic platform gate doesn't require its own article. It could be adequately discussed in a section of this one. QuadColour (talk) 17:48, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge They are pretty much the same thing. Automatic platform gate already has its own little section here. Eti15TrSf (talk) 01:32, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Klbrain (talk) 09:14, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

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Dublin Metrolink
but it should be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.204.129.5 (talk) 15:55, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Proposal
I am proposing to split the history section into either continents or time periods to elaborate on the adoption of PSDs worldwide. Individual PSD development on their respective metros should go on those pages instead.

Meanwhile, we can perhaps create a list to detail when each country/metro first adopted PSDs. Anyone else have any thoughts? Seloloving (talk) 09:34, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I could agree with splitting PSD details to the metros' articles. Meanwhile, we can perhaps create a list to detail when each country/metro first adopted PSDs. - I propose making a table with at least three columns: country; system with PSDs; and the year PSDs were first installed in the system. There can be a "references" column as well. I feel like the table should be simple, i.e. without adding extra details about the minutiae of specific lines, unless these are particularly notable. – Epicgenius (talk) 12:50, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

ROK
This needs updating: "All stations in South Korea will have platform screen doors by 2018.[63] " Was this accomplished? Kdammers (talk) 18:28, 29 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pointing this out. I've added a template to the section so hopefully other editors will notice and update it. Helper201 (talk) 02:51, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Less common designs
Should these less common designs be featured in this entry too? 58.152.72.237 (talk) 13:02, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * File:Rideaux_de_quai_de_Vanves-Malakoff.jpg
 * File:JR_Yokohama-Line_Fuchinobe_Station_Platform.jpg
 * File:Takatsuki_station_screen_door_closed.JPG
 * File:Takatsuki_station_screen_door_opened.JPG
 * File:Platform_doors_(operation_test)_in_Sagami_Railway_2.jpg

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