Talk:Pride of Britain Awards

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If anyone could add this to an appropriate stub category and associate this with a WikiProject, that would be helpful.--h i s  s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 21:30, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Created by Piers Morgan?
I'm not sure about this: "The awards were created by Piers Morgan and the Daily Mirror." The Pride of Britain Q&A states that they were founded by Peter Willis. I can't find any reference to Piers Morgan being the creator on the Pride of Britain website, only on his NBC biography. There's also no mention of Willis in the article. Thoughts? — Matt Eason (Talk &#149; Contribs) 13:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Further to this, I've just found this Jordan Times article which says the awards were the idea of Morgan and Richard Branson. I think we need to clarify what we mean by "created" - did Morgan and Branson come up with the idea and pass it over to Peter Willis to make it happen? — Matt Eason (Talk &#149; Contribs) 13:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Man, I thought this was complicated before you found evidence that Morgan was credited for any direct influence on the show. Just to clarify the potential COI which may be involved here; Willis was Morgan's showbiz correspondant at the Mirror, is now an "associate editor" whatever that is, and took over Morgan's place as chair of the judging panel when Morgan got fired in 2004. Kelvin MacKenzie's parody of Morgan's memoirs suggests they might not exactly be on hugging terms (to be fair Morgan was next onstage and called MacKenzie a "fucking liar"). It all seems a bit Jimbo Wales to me, but so long as we keep to the facts drawn from these various sources that have surfaced, I think it can still be represented accurately. BigBlueFish (talk) 13:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Now just a minute. You're 'clarifying' it by giving the credit to Peter Willis? He couldn't found a village tea party, let alone one of the most notable award ceremonies in the UK! And the awards have descended into a bloody shambles over the last few years under the keen eye of Mr Willis. As regards Kelv, he's a true genius and a total bastard. I'd love to shake him by the hand and kick him in the shins at the same time, and that's meant as a compliment if you're reading this, Kelvin... Piers Morgan (talk) 14:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I was going to ask what happened to the Awards 2008! Did they even happen? Anyhow, yes that's what I'm clarifying, since a number of people said so. If you dispute it, you need to find a source (I've tried, trust me!) or make one yourself. Seriously, blog it, slip it into the obituaries section of the Mail on Sunday, anything would make a difference if it's that important to you :) BigBlueFish (talk) 16:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

merger proposal
The daughter subjects have a low notability and are attested to by the existence of only self-published sources. The articles, which list category winners of little importance or notability, are unencyclopaedic, and I feel the "annual awards" articles could simply be redirected to this parent article. --  Ohc  ¡digame! 03:11, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Award ceremonies not awards
The separate articles are about ceremonies not about the award .. arguably this article is not about the award either. (It is in the name). Thanks, GerardM (talk) 20:15, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Support the proposed merges. The ceremonies are not independently notable, but would benefit (indeed, need), the context of the Pride of Britain Awards page. Klbrain (talk) 22:13, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

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Honorifics are incorrect and incomplete
The honorifics used are incorrect for Sir John in two ways. First, he was a Commissioner Sir; 'Commissioner' being a title earned by merit whilst in uniformed service. And, second, he is now a baron and rightly The Baron Stevens or Lord Stevens depending on his preference where 'The' in 'The Baron' is included to indicate the barony was created for him.

Richard Branson is a knight, but it is not mentioned.

I suggest removing the honorifics from this page and let the person's individual entry page contain the correct titles to eliminate cross updates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.115.61.114 (talk) 19:59, 14 October 2015 (UTC)


 * A good suggestion, especially for those not familiar with many titles and honorifics used in the UK.--DThomsen8 (talk) 02:06, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Re 'Commissioner' the term 'Police Commissioner' is a police rank not a merit award, and is not specifically British Hugo999 (talk) 23:50, 31 August 2016 (UTC)