Talk:Quincy Jones/Archive 1

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Reply to: Nesbitt14@hotmail.com.

There is a rumour that Mr. Quincy D. Jones, Jr. stated that his great-grandfather is from Lake City, SC. My name is Kyle S. Nesbitt and my great-grandfather was named Cleveland Jones(1890-1948?) and he was a musician fron that area. His father was named Davis Jones. There are a lot of musicians from this family. There are the Jones Family of Hollywood-Miami, FLA and the Nesbitt's of Lake City, SC. There is also a Jones Family in Scranton, SC, and Mr. Franklin Jones of Rochester, NY. Mr. Jones can contact me at this E-mail address or 212-928-1651 and my address is Kyle S. Nesbitt; 280 Ft. Washington Ave #35; New York, NY 10032-1306. I am not a musician, just part a family full of musicians(mostly piano)and I love family geneology and history.

Thanks:

Kyle S. Nesbitt

PBS special & Jones' family history
Henry Louis Gates of Harvard delved into much of Jones' family's history. I was wondring how quency jones was inspired to play music
 * It's Quincy Jones, not Quency. Also, look at the article for information. -- MISTER ALCOHOL  TC 03:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
Why has Gareth Kegg removed innocuous, factually correct items? Jones is distinctive for working across genres.

Let Kegg explain his vandalism. Does he see a POV issue?

Maybe Kegg believes that I have vandalized the article. The problem lies with Firefox. Firefox lops off the end of edited articles.

I have never had this problem with Firefox before. The Jones article currently abruptly ends at 'My Definition of a Boombastic Jazz Style of their debut album And Now, the Legacy Begins in 1991. It was a theme for the 1998 soccer World Cup. [1]'. Could you please restore the rest of the article? and sign your comments? Gareth E Kegg 17:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Was told my change was not constructive... had actually removed an offensive and unnecessary racial characterization. I thought it was constructive.

Reply / Administrators please note: long article issues resulting in temporary lopping off of end of article
You were fortunate not to have this problem with Firefox. Which version are you using? Are you using Windows XP? I had this experience previously with another article. The article restored after a few days. Wikipedia has acknowledged that there are problems with long articles and some browsers. Go to some long sites in Firefox and note wikipedia's note about this problem. It says that they have alerted Google about the matter. (However, google is a search engine, not a browser. The problem is with Wikipedia and browsers.)  I repeat: I had this problem previously with another long article.  It restored in a few days. I have tried to restore the article. The established article was visible in edit mode. I scroll to the bottom and then click save page I can see it in edit mode, so I suspect that you can see it there too.

You still did not respond to my query : Why did you remove, wholesale an entire PH? Why did you remove comments about the genres of artists that he arranged/ produced? Dogru144 19:07, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I probably inadvertently removed the para and genre comments as i removed the edits by you, which i incorrectly thought were vandalism. Please don't see me as a prig, as i have made many edits to this great page about a true musical genius. I can see the whole old page in edit mode too, but is annoying not to see the whole page now! Anyho, i'm off to listen to Ella and Basie Gareth E Kegg 18:23, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

If you like Quincy Jones, you'd probably also like the Thad Jones (no relation I think) / Mel Lewis big band of the late 60s and early 70s. That band also has a swinging, soul-based sound. Dogru144

Attention administrators / pages getting lopped off after references added
As noted above, most of the latter part of the article got lopped off after an edit. It remains visible in edit mode. Dear Administrators: Given that the article gets lopped off after a footnote, perhaps could the action of adding a footnote temporarily lop off the article from the public view? That would be unfortunate. After all, wikipedia is trying to bolster its reputation by encouraging documentation through the provision of references. Regardless, I hope you guys resolve this problem and I hope that this tip helps towards that end. Dogru144, 00:36, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Career
The reference to Q and RC meeting in Washington is incorrect - they first met in Seattle. I removed this part of the sentence.

www.raycharles.com has RC referring to them meeting in Seattle [ During my time in Seattle, I met and worked with some musicians who later made names for themselves. There was a fellow named Bumps Blackwell who had a band. As I recall, he hired me to play a gig one night with him. There was a young guy named Quincy Jones in the band. ]

Middle Name
Is his middle name Delightt or Delight? (I've seen it both ways.) FWIW, Google turns up a similar number of hits for "Quincy Delightt Jones" and "Quincy Delight Jones". Alan smithee 04:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

hi its delight with one t — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.225.75.58 (talk) 21:03, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Mercury Records era
I think it's fascinating that he had a great deal to do with Lesley Gore's first LP, I'll Cry If I Want To (Mercury MG 20805), which had her first big hits, "It's My Party" and "Judy's Turn to Cry". He apparently wrote the liner notes for that 1963 album. Would it be worth adding a section for "Albums He Has Worked On" to this article somewhere, or to link to such a list that already exists elsewhere?

Typofixer76 03:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Better picture?
There has got to be a better picture of the man somewhere out there. I did find one but I am unsure if I can upload it to wikipedia located here. User:Cadsuane Melaidhrin


 * Yeah I agree about the photo. The thing is that since there is a free image of him we have to use it until a "better" free image comes along. It stinks, but that is the way it goes. I'd love to see a better image, too. This one is not very flattering. (Mind meal 02:23, 16 June 2007 (UTC))

BoA - Quincy
"BoA, a popular artist in Japan, released a single called Quincy in 2004 that was a "soul disco" song in homage to his legacy." Quincy / Kono Yo no Shirushi

I would like to know where the source of the statement came from. This song says nothing about Quincy Jones.Dumaka (talk) 16:41, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

More Grammy Awards
I think that Quincy has many more grammy winning and grammy nominated songs the he is accredited to.For example Kanye West's 2006 single "Good Life" won a grammy for Best Rap Single.Technically this is a win for Quincy,he is also official credited as an writer of the song because the song heavily samples Michael Jacksons "P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)" which Quincy Jones wrote and produced.The grammys also lists him as one of the writers.Does anyone think that songs such as this one should be included in his award history?

Daverich313 (talk) 22:49, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Honorary Degree
He's going to be receiving an honorary degree from St Louis' Washingto U. on the 16th May at the same time as Phyllis Schlafly, I just couldn't stand on the same stage as her (without boxing gloves). TheresaWilson (talk) 14:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

House in Paris
don't know if this is relevant, but Jones still has a house in Paris (he has in fact had a residence in France for 5 decades). I don't know how often he visits his parisian place every year, but those (such as my brother) who live nearby, "frequently" see him in the local streets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.216.5 (talk) 07:50, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Bond with 50 Cent?
I've heard rumours that Quincy Jones helped 50 Cent with some songs/albums. Is this true? -- MISTER ALCOHOL  TC 03:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

New image


This image just popped up. Is it necessary for the Quincy Jones article? Please feel free to reply. -- MISTER ALCOHOL  TC 03:38, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
 * For now, I've removed it. Now comment whether you want it on the page or not. Thank you. -- MISTER ALCOHOL  TC 03:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello, I think just a good a question would be, "why is it necessary to remove it"? What we have here is a professional quality image of Quincy Jones presenting platinum copies of the song "Fly Me to the Moon" from It Might as Well Be Swing, the album he produced in conjunction with Frank Sinatra, to the first American to orbit the Earth, Senator John Glenn, and the first Human being to step foot on another planet, Neil Armstrong. I would certainly say that makes it not only very relevant to the section it was in, but also to the article as a whole. In fact I think Mr. Jones looks so much better in this image than in the others we have that I was thinking of cropping him out from the other two to use as the photo in the infobox. That's my rationale for posting it here. Tell me why you think it shouldn't be here? Thanks! &mdash;Elipongo (Talk contribs) 03:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


 * We do have here an image of Quincy Jones presenting platinum copies of the song "Fly Me to the Moon" from It Might as Well Be Swing. But this should be used on the "Fly Me to the Moon" article. I removed it because I thought it wouldn't be needed here. If this image were to be used on the Quincy Jones article, it should not be in the infobox as the picture of Quincy at Davos 2004 has been used for the last year or so. (I mean, I'd refrain.}
 * Speaking of which, Quincy Jones is the world's most popular black musician but this image shouldn't be used in the infobox also because of this statement:
 * "It has more than one person in the picture."
 * If it can be used, use it, but only out of the infobox (and possibly this article), as a result.
 * Thanks for taking your time to read this. -- MISTER ALCOHOL  TC 06:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Can't see any reason to exclude this image from the article, but as Elipongo said, putting it in the infobox would require little cropping, otherwise using it in the Awards or a similar section would make sense. While we're at it, I'd actually question why the image in the infobox is even in the article - its an amateur photo which makes the poor guy look like someone caught him in the middle of flapping his arms. I think the infobox could quickly be improved, maybe with Image:Quincy Jones 2008.jpg unless someone wants to crop one of the other images for this purpose? (or if there's a consensus on which one to crop, I would be happy to do that part) Shell    babelfish 07:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello. I agree that all three of them shouldn't be in the infobox together, I said that he could be cropped out so that he appeared alone. I have done so and you can see the result at right. Your note that the image may be appropriate for the "Fly Me to the Moon" article may be true, but it is off-topic. If I am understanding you correctly, your main objection to the image is that Mr. Jones doesn't appear alone in it- I can't agree with that assessment. There is no requirement that a subject appear solo in article illustrations. Unless you have other reasons for it being removed from the article, I'd have to say it should be put back. &mdash;Elipongo (Talk contribs) 07:31, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, it's been a couple of more days without anymore comments or objections. I'm going to put the group image back in and I'm going to replace the image in the infobox with the cropped version. Cheers! Elipongo 02:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Not so fast! You can't do that without consensus. So all we can do is just stand by, and wait for MORE comments. We object to the change, and it has been reverted. Cheers?! Or should we say "Stand by"? The IP Known As 92.22.185.146 (talk) 06:30, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I rather thought we had consensus with two editors for the change and no rebuttals for two days. Could you please explain exactly what your objections to the two images are? Thank you. &mdash;Elipongo (Talk contribs) 07:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Never mind what Alberto and that other guy said.
 * Our objections are about your recent edit. What we say is that the group image can easily be put in an article about NASA and that the one-man image can easily be put in a section called Media Appearances. That's what we say. The IP Known As 92.22.185.146 (talk) 15:50, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The group image is in several articles already, so I doubt that's a concern. However, the current image being used in the infobox is really horrible - the one Elipongo cropped out is certainly an improvement.  Do you have any reasons why you believe the current infobox image is the best representation for the lead of the article?  Shell    babelfish 20:27, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Everybody's opinions are given due weight, please do not tell us to "never mind" what others have said. I'm not sure what you object to about my edit per se other than it having put these images into the article. Please allow me to explain why I think these images belong in this article:
 * The group image is a high quality photo of Mr. Jones presenting platinum copies of an album he arranged to two other very famous people. It demonstrates Mr. Jones' own importance as a celebrity to be in this photo with them. I frankly can't think of any living person of more historical importance than Neil Armstrong &mdash; his name will be remembered throughout history right up there with Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Christopher Columbus, etc. Being in a photo with Armstrong is especially significant due to the fact that he has generally avoided public scrutiny and there is a general dearth of photos of him at all. The placement of this image near to the article's mention of the album involved (i.e. in the "Work with Frank Sinatra" section) also provides a visual break in what is otherwise an overlong section of plain text.
 * The cropped out head-shot is a high quality photo with Mr. Jones looking directly into the camera with a very nice smile on his face while wearing a very flattering white suit. It is certainly more appropriate for the infobox than the one there now which has him with his coat and shirt collar in disarray, his name badge up on his shoulder, and holding up his just removed necktie while pointing at the sign behind him showing that he's avoiding a five franc donation &mdash; hardly a flattering portrait of the man in more ways than simply visual.

I thank you for your thoughts on other places these images might be useful, but now that I have given a detailed rationale why I put them here, could you please actually give a reason why these images shouldn't be used in this article? Thank you. &mdash;Elipongo (Talk contribs) 00:22, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, it has been another week now without a response. If there isn't going to be any more discussion, then around this time tomorrow I will be changing the infobox image at the very least for the reasons I gave above. &mdash;Elipongo (Talk contribs) 03:05, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I prefer the 'starry night' image the best. It and the Davos photo show more of Q's natural spirit than the cropped photo with no neck, with a pair of kitchen cabinet handles distracting the viewer. What a shame we can't find a photo of him not in his 80's. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 16:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You mean Image:Roll2 Frame28 QuincyJones.jpg? It's definitely a step up from the current one in the infobox. To my mind the points against it are that it's in black and white, it's low resolution, and &mdash; most importantly &mdash; his hand is terribly out of focus. You're right about the cabinets behind him in the image I posted, I've made another image with the background cropped away, tell me what you think. By the way, if anybody out there is better with image editing software, feel free to fix up my work! &mdash;Elipongo (Talk contribs) 03:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Philanthropy and Foundation
Adding info on the Quincy Jones Foundation would be nice. He is very philanthropic —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.207.140 (talk) 22:42, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Best Known For....
"He is best known as the producer of the album Thriller, by pop icon Michael Jackson"

Really? I would've thought he was best known for his film scores. Jh39 (talk) 17:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Ray Charles template
I was a bit surprised to see the Ray Charles template appended to the end of this Quincy Jones article. The article itself does not go into much detail about the friendship and significant career collaborations of these two giants. I guess I would expect to see more about Ray Charles in the article but adding the Ray Charles template (which is mainly a Charles discography) still seems a bit out of place here. Pugetbill (talk) 18:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Somerset Academy?
I removed the wiki link to Somerset Academy as it links to a disambiguation page. Does anyone know which "Somerset Academy" Jones attended? Is it the one in Athens, Maine? If not, where? and when? I tried searching on the web but virtually every reference to "Quincy Jones" at "Somerset Academy" was taken from this wikipedia article.
 * "...he attended Seattle's Garfield High School. He then attended Somerset Academy..."

I can't find an independent source for this info on the web but I hope someone can find it (in his autobiography or other published document) and add the reference citation to this Wikipedia article. Pugetbill (talk) 22:02, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Quincy Jones producer of The Beatles Yellow Submarine
I can't find any reference of Quincy Jones having worked with the Beatles, let alone having produced Yellow Submarine, as stated in the first paragraph of this article. Even the Wikipedia articles related to the movie, soundtrack, remixes, etc of Yellow Submarine, all credit George Martin as producer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Acoleasa (talk • contribs) 23:01, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

why nothing about the stroke?
that caused him to stop playing horn, c. 1969/70, iirc? 72.228.177.92 (talk) 19:43, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Question about date
The article states that Jones became the vice-president of Mercury labels in 1964, whereas his official website dates his promotion to this position in 1961: http://www.quincyjones.com/about-2/about. Which one is accurate? 198.73.178.6 (talk) 17:24, 9 August 2012 (UTC) Brady S.

His co founding of Playground Sessions
Quincy co founded an online site for teaching people to play music. Would this be relevant to add to the page? Sushilover boy (talk) 16:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)