Talk:Savory spinach pie

Spinach Pie
ok i dont know about you guys but where I live "spinach pie" at a mediterranean restaurant refers to something TOTALLY DIFFERENT from spanakopita (different and DELICIOUS) so maybe "spinach pie" should not be a redirect here

talking about these things:

http://www.habeeb.com/images/lebanese.food.spinach.pie.jpg

they are always triangular shaped like that and have spinach in them and similar crust constituency but the mixture of seasonings can vary a fair amount. i think pine nuts as part of the filling is not uncommon.


 * I don't know what a "mediterranean restaurant" is but I doubt you'd get much that's authentic from it. I've been to "European restaurants" in Asia and they serve some really weird shit. "Spanakopita" literally means spinach pie, therefore it redirects here.Gymnophoria (talk) 14:59, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Dill
Every recipe I've seen has Dill included, should we add dill to the article?

Official Recipe?
Is there such a thing as the offical recipe of how this is traditionally prepared? That would be a good addition to this article imho. (unsigned comment)


 * There is no single official or traditional version, because there is no person or organization qualified or recognized as an ultimate authority or judge. Traditional cooking in most societies (including among Greeks) was based on making the best use of what is available and popular, rather than abstract authenticity for its own sake. The (partial) exception would be the version made for religious fasting; for that version there are clear rules on what categories of food must not be included, but there is still some freedom to include other ingredients outside those categories. TooManyFingers (talk) 20:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Almost no dishes have "official" recipes (see Original, authentic, and traditional) and anyway WP does not publish recipes (see WP:Recipe). --Macrakis (talk) 22:47, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Response to all above

 * There are many variants of spanakopita, and "spinach pie" may also refer to many different things (including spanakopita). So it is not surprising that some spanakopitas are different from some spinach pies. If there are other types of spinach pie that should be documented, let's document them.
 * There are many variants of spanakopita. Dill is used in some, but not all. It can certainly be mentioned as an optional ingredient.
 * There are many variants of spanakopita, and therefore many different recipes. We could not possibly document them all, and choosing one would be problematic. Anyway, since Wikipedia is not a cookbook (see WP:NOT), recipes are not allowed in articles. --Macrakis 13:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

In Serbia we have the same dish except its called pita od spanaca. Wouldn't you know? :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.70.128.82 (talk) 03:38, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Ricotta is cheaper?
Where? I don't suppose it's cheaper in Greece, it's certainly not true in the UK where I am. Ricotta is quite pricey whereas feta is much the same price as other cheese. I think more likely ricotta is added to make it more rich and creamy.Gymnophoria (talk) 14:56, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Savory pie
In English this type of pie is called savory pie, not borek or whatever you may want to call it, please stop this racist altitude to try to call every greek dish with a turkish name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.107.58.142 (talk) 13:50, 9 July 2016 (UTC)


 * "Savory pie" is an very broad category, including things like Cornish pasties, Italian crostata, Russian piroshki (though interestingly that name probably comes from börek), Indian samosa, etc. made with a wide variety of pastries and found in a broad variety of cuisines. Spanakopita, on the other hand, is generally made with phyllo pastry and is part of the common legacy of Ottoman cuisine. It may or may not ultimately derive from earlier Greek or other traditions, but it is now found in many countries formerly ruled by the Ottoman Empire, under a variety of names — Turkish ıspanaklı börek, Bulgarian Баница, Albanian byrek mi spinaq, and even Greek μπουρέκι/ακι (pron. bu'reki). The name börek covers this specific tradition, and is much more accurate than the vague "savory pie".


 * By the way, I recommend you read our policy on personal attacks, and avoid accusing other editors of "racist altitude [sic]". As it happens, many dishes are common between Greek and Turkish cuisines, and many of them have Turkish names: briami, turlu, boureki, baklava, halva, dolma, yakhni, moussaka, tarama, tzatziki, yuvarlakia, keftethes, pligouri, yaourti, pilafi, trahanas, patsas, imam (bayildi), kourabies, pilâki, kataifi, revani, raki, meze, kafe, tsai, kima, .... Of course, a few of these foods have common, specific English names like meatballs (though we distinguish the kofta family and have a separate article on yuvarlakia), appetizer (though we distinguish meze and tapas), and tripe soup (in which we cover both the Greek and the Turkish versiona: πατσά and işkembe çorbası). But most don't, and we don't try to shoehorn things into broader, English-name articles if there is something specific about them: taramosalata is separate from roe, qurabiya is separate from cookie, pilaf is separate from rice.


 * Turkish has also borrowed from Greek, though mostly for ingredients rather than dishes: poğaça, fasolye, sardalya, pide, patates, domates, fava, midye, enginar, levrek, kefal. Of course, many of these names ultimately derive from yet other languages (Italian, Persian, Arabic), and come from other places (obviously tomatoes, potatoes, and green beans are from the New World). Since these are ingredients, most of them have common and specific English names, so we use those in the English Wikipedia. --Macrakis (talk) 21:43, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Spanakopitakia
In Greece, Spanakopita are actually known by their traditional name of Spanakopitakia (or Σπανακοπιτάκια). It is a mistake often made by would-be modern linguists to confuse Spanakopita (the name used in Northern Europe) with the traditiona (unsigned, undated comment)

Baloney! Spanakopitakia (or Σπανακοπιτάκια) is just a diminutive. Both words are used in Greece.Kostaki mou (talk) 01:18, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Spanakotyropita (σπανακοτυρóπιτα)
This is an alternative name (spinach and cheese pie), since this dish includes both spinach and cheese.