Talk:Smith & Wesson Model 500

Jagged Alliance game was made before 2003... Hmm... So, how? --Varnav 18:56, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

the ammo
a picture of a round used in this gun should be included. I don't have one. Kalmia 19:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

There, now you have one. Klauth 00:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Animals
Is there a reference for the animals taken with this gun? Do elephant poachers go public with their arsenals? matt kane&#39;s brain 01:26, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

You don't have to be a poacher to hunt elephant. Most nations with elephant hold lotteries and give out a limited number of hunting license for them. That's assuming one can afford the license if they win the lottery.

Beleive it or not, there are many areas where the elephant are considered overpopulated. This is because despite the fact the elephants are endangered, the areas where they do live are often to small to support what animals that do live there.. (Hence the need for more habitat for the elephants) Also the reason the lotteries are conducted for hunting licenses.

Klauth 09:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

pop culture
Please refrain from adding these reference to the page. There are two pages created specifically for this where this type of into can go: These types of reference don't really belong in Wikipedia articles, please see What Wikipedia is not (specifically "List of trivia"). --Deon Steyn 05:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * List of firearms in video games
 * List of firearms in films

Removed reference to elephants
I removed reference to elephants because its should probably have been documented and because it was inflammatory. No use leading people to think that owners of this revolver go around shooting elephants on a regular basis. --Droll 00:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Let me clarify my propose. Most ethical hunters try to use weapons that will kill the game they are trying to take as cleanly as possible. For example a person can take a mule deer with a .22 Long Rifle and many have been taken that way. Today must hunters will not use a round much smaller than 6 mm. I do not doubt that this round could kill and elephant but would it be the right thing to do. Certainly this revolver was not designed with elephant hunting in mind. I am sure the manufacturer would not recommend such use. Of course if I was being charged by a rouge bull elephant and all I had was a pistol then this would be a good one to have. --Droll 00:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Most Powerful??
Is the .500 S&W the most powerful or the .460 S&W? The wiki page on the .460 also states it is the most powerful with more energy than the .500 due to its high velocity of over 2300 fps.


 * The last paragraph states that the .460 achieves over "2400 ft-lbs of energy" while the .500 S&W achieves over 2600 ft-lbs of energy". This is at the muzzle and is calculated based on mass and velocity. Using the word "most" is probably ill advised as it can only be true for some undetermined period of time. --Droll 00:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Never used to commit a crime?
This I'm unsure of, I'd like someone to cite that statement in the article. I think its a little to bold a statement to make without anything to back it up. (1sttomars 21:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC))

You can't prove a negative, if you don't like the statement then cite some proof to the contrary —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.138.237.81 (talk) 19:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Citation for "most powerful"
While it MAY be outdated, a citation I came across (ironically, that lead me TO this article) was from http://www.popularmechanics.com/outdoors/sports/1277336.html

It was written in 2003. I'm new to the subject, so things may have changed since then...


 * They haven't. The 500 is still the most powerful.  Unfortunately I don't have a newer citation handy.  But now that I know, I'll keep an eye out.  That said, I think this is a situation that so long as we have a citation and no newer evidence to the contrary, there's no reason for a change.  —Thernlund (Talk 21:15, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Advertisement
The first section of this article reads like an advert. Man with two legs 10:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

backordered?
The place I go has had one or two + .460 for sale sence they were released, I don't think there was much of a back order. (becouse he still has the same ones minus the .460)

Single action or double action?
The article doesn't specify whether the Smith & Wesson 500 is a single or double action revolver. 24.20.105.177 23:13, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Removed reference to handloader experiment
My research could find no reference to a load his hot. The Hodgdon web site lists the hottest load at 2002 fps. with a 325 grain bullet. To encourage readers to exceed maximum pressure ratings, IMO, would not be unethical --DRoll (talk) 05:01, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Amputation Hazard
There is a picture circulating on the internet of a finger that was shortened by the blast from the B/c gap of a 500. The picture may or may not be authentic-probably is as the side blast from a 44 magnum will cut through blue denim after a few repetitions. --Mcumpston (talk) 14:54, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

See this http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-391097.html, it is about the cylinder / barrel gap hazard in revolvers and this particular post.Gocontributor (talk) 00:52, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

"hunt extremely large african game"
Someone wrote it and posted a reference that in no way supports the claim made. A claim that this kind of gun could kill a rhino or elephant, or even a buffalo could only be made by a person who has little knowledge of ballistics and nature of penetration. please, I beg you please, do not let wikipedia embarass itself again like this.99.231.50.118 (talk) 05:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)Pavel Golikov.


 * Dude, did you even read the reference? &mdash;  Dan MP5  14:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Cape buffalo and elephants have been harvested with .44 Magnum and .454 Casull revolvers for decades. The key is very heavy and hard solid bullets.  The .500 S&W Magnum is more powerful than either one of those.  --D.E. Watters (talk) 14:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Can someone remove that whole sentece? I'm not arguing with it, but hunting for any extremely large african game is illegal. Or am I to understand that Wikipedia encourages it? GMRE (talk) 15:33, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Large Recoil?
I think the picture of the girl firing is over dramatized, She probably didnt know the proper way of handling the gun.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.187.75.183 (talk) 14:11, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

capacity?
any six shot versions available? i believe someone once told me about a 6 shot S&W 500 magnum pistol —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.171.244.37 (talk) 08:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Consolidate
Consolidate, merge, combine (or whatever Wiki speak is used) this article with .500 S&W Magnum and clean up the redundant S&W links.

To answer the six shot model question - - - NO, S&W makes only a 5 shot version. The operating pressure is too great to make a 6 shot cylinder for this frame. Maybe S&W will make a "Y" frame?? of course it will weigh more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.179.189.65 (talk) 06:19, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Bullet weight
Question from someone who doesn't know too much about guns: The article states "The Model 500 can fire a bullet weighing 350 gr ( 22.7 g; 0.8 oz)" So, is it 350gr, or 22.7 gr? And what does the other number mean than?

GameLegend (talk) 21:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


 * 350 grains, 22.7 grams, or 0.8 ounces. --174.71.116.124 (talk) 00:56, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Load compatibility
A paragraph concerning whether or not this revolver can capably fire other .50 caliber cartridges, specifically the .50 Action Express ("Desert Eagle") round and the .50 Beowulf, would be very useful. I would do it myself, but was unable to find any reliable discussion by notable sources.--Froglich (talk) 19:52, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

The .50 AE is based on the .44 magnum cartridge and will not fit properly (too small) in a 500 S&W magnum. A 500 S&W will not fit in a .50 AE (too big). See .50 Action Express. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gocontributor (talk • contribs) 02:09, 29 April 2016 (UTC)