Talk:Sumatra

sumatra questions
What is the capital of Sumatra? What sort of political system does it have? Who is the current president? I'm just curious because I want to use Sumatra in a story, but anyways, more info is needed. Citizen Premier 02:16, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Sumatra is not a country; it is one island in Indonesia. I'd check that article for answers to your questions. There are several provinces of Indonesia located on Sumatra. CDC   (talk)  20:44, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Contradiction in entry
Is Sumatra the sixth or eighth largest island in the world? Both "facts" are listed in this entry. Need to confirm and correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.194.134.2 (talk • contribs)


 * If you read more carefully, it is said that Sumatra is the sixth largest and the eight highest (altitude above see level) island in the world, so there is no contradiction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Masagus aa (talk • contribs)
 * Please sign your posts. Thanks. --Merbabu 08:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Distinguish
"DAB links are not intended for this purpose" - Caniago
 * Please show exact quoting of the policy or consensuses from discussion. --Voidvector 07:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That's just silly. (although it probably makes sense the other way around). What's next? 'Did you mean Austria" after one types in Australia? --Merbabu 08:10, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes it's silly. Should we also make "distinguish" because of typo between Asia, Atia, Aria, Avia, Alia, Apia, Adia, Agia? &mdash; Indon ( reply ) &mdash; 08:17, 27 February 2007 (UTC)


 * They are called disambiguation links so that people can choose between alternate meanings of a term. They are not intended to correct spelling mistakes. Please use Google search which provides spelling correction if you have trouble typing in the right name. (Caniago 09:27, 27 February 2007 (UTC))


 * Most of the uses of Template:Distinguish and Template:Distinguish2 are in fact for spelling differences, many of which are of totally different topic. This is in fact similar topic: both Sumatra and Samatra are geographical locations in Asia. If you people are unfamiliar with its use, you can examine them here and here2. The examples Merbabu and Indon raised are not valid for this discussion because an English speaker is not likely to mistaken them or misspell them.
 * This is in fact a disambiguation. It is a disambiguation of spelling rather than meaning. --Voidvector 19:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * There is a huge difference in the meanings of Sumatra and Samatra - one is a small village in India, the other a massive island in Indonesia with 45 million people. Its therefore virtually impossible to confuse the two, just as per the examples provided by Indon and Merbabu. Take a look at other encyclopedias, I expect they don't make any attempt to correct spelling mistakes for these examples. Putting a link to an insignificant article like Samatra is really a waste of space on an important article like Sumatra. (Caniago 19:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC))


 * Shrug, your article. Just trying to improve navigation. --Voidvector 00:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. Note however I agree with Merbabu that the dab link you added to Samatra is fine, which would have helped you find Sumatra in the first place. (Caniago 01:07, 28 February 2007 (UTC))

Deforestation
Someone should add a section about this, or at least mention it somewhere. This seems like a pretty huge and relevant issue that defines environmental, economic, social, and political conditions on the island. http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/12/06/indonesia.burning.rainforest/ 71.182.233.240 (talk) 20:19, 6 December 2009 (UTC)James

Agreed. Today would be a good day to start since we've just heard about Asia Pulp and Paper's pledge to stop deforestation in "high-carbon stock" and "high-conservation value" forests. Maybe this could fit well into a dedicated Geography page or extended Geography section. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/feb/05/paper-firm-indonesian-deforestation Ian.w.t.n (talk) 20:27, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

450 million
Is the population given correct? I thought Sumatra was contained within Indonesia - the population of which is less than half the number given here. 98.204.140.83 (talk) 17:49, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The article says 45 million, well within Indonesias over 200 million. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 12:55, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Haji Sumatrabhumi
I never heard of this person that is being mentioned in the opening section of the article. Hence I place the fact tag there. If no one responded to it in two weeks, I propose the person's name to be removed. Thanks, XoXo (talk) 13:25, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I have doubts too. I'm contacting User:Gunkarta who added it. I tagged the other occurrence before I spotted yours. Let's see what Gunkarta says. Maybe he/she knows something that can clarify this. Peridon (talk) 20:14, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Before the arival of Islam in Indonesian archipelago, the title "Aji" or "Haji" (also mentioned in Chinese account of Srivijaya king as "Hia-Tche") is refer to "king" in both old Malay language and Sundanese language (to some extent, also Javanese). The name of a plant "Pakis Haji" means "the king of fern". In ancient Sundanese inscription Sanghyang Tapak inscription mention about Prahajyan Sunda, "Prahajyan" means "kingdom" from basic word "haji", pra-haji-an. After the arrival of Islam, the title Haji overlapped with title of someone that sucessfully perform Hajj pilgrim. While the title for the king shifted to already adopted term "Raja" from sanskirt. So "Haji Sumatrabhumi" means king of Sumatra. Check on the list of Srivijayan kings, Haji Sumatrabhumi is mentioned in Chinese account that sent embassy to China in 1017. (Gunkarta (talk) 11:35, 17 November 2010 (UTC))
 * Thanks a lot for that. Peridon (talk) 20:12, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome (Gunkarta (talk) 10:16, 18 November 2010 (UTC))

BC, AD, BCE & CE
The terms BCE and CE are used in the text alongside the more established BC and AD terms. Whichever system people decide to use can they stick to the same one throughout please and have all instances in the text following the same notation rather than chopping and changing sentance by sentance according to a paticular editors whims. Shearluck (talk) 12:49, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

History section
The first line of the history section is misleading as this has never been proven and doesn't contain any citations to support the statement. I suggest re-writing it or removing it completely. The line is as follows:

"People who spoke Austronesian languages first arrived in Sumatra around 500 BCE[citation needed] as part of the Austronesian expansion from Taiwan to Southeast Asia" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.230.163 (talk) 19:53, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Page Improvements
My name is Asri Aldila Putri and I am the Stakeholder Relations at Asia Pulp & Paper. I understand and adhere to Wikipedia’s editing policies and therefore, would like to propose the following to the community for review.

The following claims the construction of illegal road but there is no source provided.

“However, the construction of illegal roads through prime tiger habitat has continued since then by companies led by Asia Pulp & Paper.”

A valid source is needed to substantiate the claim or the entry should be removed. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aldila Putri (talk • contribs) 11:22, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Should the spelling "Sumatera" be mentioned somewhere in the article?
Occasionally I see the spelling "Sumatera". This is the name of the island in the Indonesian language, right? I notice that there are redirects from "Sumatera" to "Sumatra" (ditto for "North Sumatera", etc.) And obviously, because "en.wikipedia.org" is the English-language Wikipedia, the common English name/spelling "Sumatra" should remain here (and as this page's title). But perhaps - because the spelling "Sumatera" is occasionally seen - it should be briefly noted (e.g., in the "Etymology" section) as being the name of the island in the Indonesian language? I notice also that the article's 'info box' - under "Native Name" - says "Sumatra" (which seems wrong, if "Sumatera" is the Indonesian-language name), as well as a name written in the "Jawa" script.) Ross Finlayson (talk) 12:02, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Not having seen any objections, I changed the "Native Name" in the infobox from "Sumatra" to "Sumatera" (and noted that this is in the Indonesian language). If this is wrong, feel free to revert this. Ross Finlayson (talk) 22:14, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * "Sumatra" is the standard spelling in the Indonesian dictionary. 117.54.111.133 (talk) 06:17, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

IMprovement tags
Hi there - there are two general banners at the top of the page claiming a need for additional references and suggesting there is original research. Given that they date from 2015 and 2017, they are general/unclear, and there is no reference to them in the talk page - ie, we have no idea what they are here for, or what might be the specific pathway for their removal. So I will remove them now. I note that there are speific citation request tags in the article which i will leave. If people have any specific concerns, they can comment here on talk and/or put a specific tag/s next the specific part of the text - or better still, provide the desired changes themselves :) . --Merbabu (talk) 02:48, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Sumatra
I was asked to write on Talk. I've reinserted the comments about Geography.113.197.13.138 (talk) 05:58, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You need to explain why additions of "Christmas Island (which belongs to Australia), is about 300 kilometres away." is relevant to the subject, otherwise it'll be reverted Ckfasdf (talk) 07:04, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


 * See also Talk:Java. –Austronesier (talk) 10:17, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

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