Talk:The Fault in Our Stars

Good source
This interview could be useful for expanding the article, perhaps by adding a "Background" or "Inspirations" section. I'll see what I can pull out of the interview if I get a chance, or maybe somebody else would like to take a stab at it. Andrea ( talk ) 03:28, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Plot missing
Could someone write up the entire plot including all the spoilers so that I don't have to read the book? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.57.180.251 (talk) 23:45, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

Just read the book. It's damn near genius. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.255.123.54 (talk) 00:55, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

We need a full plot write-up. That's pretty much the only major thing missing from the article at this point. Silver seren C 02:46, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Don't be lazy - just read the book, it won't kill you. I'm 6 months late, but it was an amazing journey, nonetheless. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.74.95.246 (talk) 15:51, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Folks, the talk page is not to talk about the book (even if we all like it). It's to talk about improving the article.  Please keep discussions to constructive additions to the article.  I, Jethrobot  drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 06:21, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

You want the whole plot? Read the book. You'll thank me later. Get off your lazy bums and read for once. Don't look this up on the last night before your school project. Lazy, lazy America. You all make me want to puke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.108.129.67 (talk) 01:26, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Just read the book, its amazing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.72.90.165 (talk) 02:14, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Taylor Mcmahon wrote it,it was an amazing story line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.25.197.33 (talk) 17:32, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Source for Citation Needed
This YouTube Video is the one where John Greene explains the character Hazel's name. This could be the citation required in the character summary. Also, the quote is slightly off. I do not normally edit wikipedia so I will leave it to someone who knows exactly how to do such things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.83.221.142 (talk) 20:03, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Compress characters into synopsis?
I'm thinking of having a student of mine work on integrating the information in the character section into the synopsis, since it seems to be recommended. Any objections? --Roseclearfield (talk) 16:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

That would be wonderful; if not your student, can someone else do this? "Characters" sections are the hallmarks of weak pages. If a character's traits, etc. are not evident in the summary, they are likely not all that important to the story in the first place. And if they are, include them in the summary. As is, the section is not a synopsis so much as a complete plot explication, so I think I'll change the title of the category to a more honest one. LaneErickson (talk) 04:19, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I am going to fix this. I am a student of Roseclearfield.--EHass (talk) 13:39, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

New page for film adaptation?
Obviously, there isn't enough information yet (the film isn't even confirmed), but does anyone think a new page would be necessary, so as not to have an oversized 'Film Adaptation' section? Many adaptations haven't done this, but most have. What do people think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheese453 (talk • contribs) 14:30, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
 * See WP:NFF for guidance on when a separate film article would be advisable. Generally this is not until principal photography has begun.--Milowent • hasspoken  20:33, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

The Fault in Our Stars Wrong Information on the type of cancer Hazel has
Resolved: Fixed 6 Nov 2013 by this edit by 198.161.2.241 --User:Anon126 (talk - contribs) 21:02, 31 January 2014 (UTC) The book clearly states: "...diagnosed with stage lV thyroid cancer..." (page 24) Hazel had thyroid cancer which metastasized to her lungs; she did not have lung cancer which is what Wikipedia says. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.249.61 (talk) 18:02, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 January 2014
Remove Due to unnecessary details..

On December 21, 2011, Barnes & Noble accidentally shipped 1500 copies of The Fault in Our Stars before the release date to people who had pre-ordered the book. Green released a statement saying, "Mistakes happen. The people who made this error were not bad or incompetent people, and they were not acting maliciously. We all make mistakes, and it is not my wish to see Barnes and Noble or any of their employees vilified."[5] Many people who received the book pledged not to read it until its release date, January 10, 2012, or discuss it until the next day, January 11, as per a request of Green's not to spoil it for other readers. Most kept to this promise leaving the experience untarnished for those who got the book on intended release date.[6]

98.159.215.20 (talk) 20:07, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

❌ Without Green's comment this might be WP:UNDUE, but given the author's reaction and the cited sources it seems reasonable. Arjayay (talk) 18:15, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 February 2014
Please change the final sentence of the plot summary for the 'The Fault In Our Stars' page from 'she did in fact enjoy the infinity that he gave her within the numbered days as much as he said he enjoyed his with her' to 'she did in fact like the choices she had made about who hurts her in life.' as this is actually what she means when she says 'I do.' at the end of the book. Sources: The Fault in Our Stars by John Green

122.62.226.122 (talk) 07:42, 2 February 2014 (UTC) Is this just your opinion? or is there a reliable source you can provide, and we can cite, to justify "actually what she means"? Arjayay (talk) 18:23, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Pictogram voting question.svg|20px]] Question:  Who has said "this is actually what she means when she says 'I do.'"

❌ I take the lack of response to indicate there is no such RS - Arjayay (talk) 19:44, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2014
Edit details about things hazel and augustus do and dont spoil the ending!!! Basicaly just needs to be sliced in half. Slice not cut cause slice sounds way more dramatic and just cooler.

Rose ez (talk) 09:05, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

❌ We do not avoid spoilers see WP:Spoilers. Arjayay (talk) 19:47, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2014
the story is narrated by Hazel who is seventeen, not sixteen. It says that on the first page of the first chapter.

216.248.238.12 (talk) 18:22, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NQ (talk) 19:57, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

The book says "in my 17th year" and shortly after she turns 16 1/2 (celebrating her "33rd half birthday". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardson mcphillips (talk • contribs) 03:31, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Edit request. Almost True citation misquote
The quote cited to cite 31 is mis-assigned and should be removed. "Amost True" is Keren David's Blog, and the quote used is the title of her blog post which does not uphold the criticism claimed.

Meg Rossoff does support the Mail "sick-lit" criticism, but the quote and blog are not hers, so a different reference and quote should be found if her opinion is considered important. Thanks.82.26.245.21 (talk) 00:46, 15 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. -- Mdann  52   talk to me!  11:56, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Children's choice awards
Almost every US state has a "(school)children's choice" or "young reader" annual book award program, with rules and age groups that vary greatly. We have pages for only a few of them, and do not always list winners in all categories.

Beside reader ages, one of the variables is the time period covered each year. The Fault in Our Stars won at least one 2013 award in Pennsylvania. For 2014 awards only, I am able to report completely or nearly so. I found about 45 online and found The Fault in Our Stars a winner in 10 states. As I write, the linked page for Georgia features the 2015 awards program. Some of the others are top pages from which the 2014 winners will disappear as the school year progresses, to be found only in archives and lists of previous winners (now a {dead link} in Georgia).
 * Delaware, oldest of 3 reader age groups = Teen
 * Florida, Teens Read
 * Georgia, Teen
 * Illinois, oldest of 4 - grades 9-12
 * Maryland, oldest of 4 - high school
 * New Hampshire, oldest of 4
 * Pennsylvania, oldest of 3 (one of two award programs, competing?; won the other in 2013, oldest of 4 )
 * South Dakota, oldest of 4 - high school
 * Virginia, oldest of 4 - high school
 * Vermont, oldest of

Beside numerous 2012 and even more 2011 publications, there were some 2010 among this year's 2014 winners, and one 2008 publication (Paper Towns by John Green in Connecticut's high school category). The Fault in Our Stars will win more of the US state awards in the future, especially next year. A list of likely prospects is the 19 where I found Divergent (2011) a 2014 winner (Talk: Divergent (novel)). --P64 (talk) 00:16, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2014
103.10.22.178 (talk) 15:29, 4 November 2014 (UTC) If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:36, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not requested a change.

ImprovemeI ident in the summary, they are likely not all that important to the story in the first place. And if they are, include them in the summary. As is, the section is not a synopsis so much as a complete plot explication, so I think I'll change the title of the category to a more honest one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.42.89.168 (talk) 23:31, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Who is Isaac? Edit request
The first reference to Isaac is in this sentence: "Fearing his death, Augustus invites Isaac and Hazel to his pre-funeral, where they give eulogies." No explanation is given as to who he is. Can someone who has read the book please edit this to explain his connection to Hazel and his place in the book? 69.9.229.250 (talk) 17:44, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Issac is Augustus's best friend and they were for each other in the hour of need. Issac was also a member of Hazel's support group and the three became very close friends. Hazel and Augustus helped him to recover from depression after Monica (Isaac's girlfriend) dumped him. Irene Scarlett (talk) 05:21, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2016
Under Plot, in the 4th paragraph, a character is mention who is not explained in the synopsis: "Augustus invites Isaac and Hazel to his pre-funeral...." Who is "Isaac"?

2601:1C0:8100:2F3F:1599:A673:CFC7:4F66 (talk) 19:16, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done The plot summary used to be much longer than it is now, to the point of being excessive. It appears when we were cutting it down, we scrapped details about Isaac. I've restored one sentence from the old plot summary to hopefully clarify a few things. In the future when making edit requests, please submit your request in a "change X to Y" format so that reviewers can easily see what needs to be changed and how . In any case, thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia! Mz7 (talk) 22:29, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Starlink
Elon Musk mentioned on twitter today (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/966419298049703936) that the name of his Starlink satellite constellation was inspired by The Fault in Our Stars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cscott (talk • contribs) 21:19, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Reference In Other Movies
Not sure where this goes or I'd just squeeze it into the actual article. There is a brief shot (if you blink you may miss it) in the Marvel/Disney film Ant-Man And The Wasp where Scott Lang (portrayed by Paul Rudd) is reading a copy of The Fault In Our Stars by John Green. The blue cover of the book is prominently shown, albeit just for a visual gag. When I saw it, I seemed to be the only person in the theater who got it. Perhaps if there have been other references to this book or its accompanying film in otherwise unrelated media, this could warrant its own section? If anyone knows of other examples, please include them here. ZachsMind (talk) 02:43, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
 * have removed this from the article as it is not a wikinotable plot point of that movie, i like noticing wikinotable books on the bookshelves of movies and talking heads on television but i don't believe that should be included in those articles, of course if it is relevant to a plot/noted and/or discussed by sources than that is another matter:). Coolabahapple (talk) 00:19, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 22 March 2024

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. The oppose wasn't a hard majority, but NohomersRyan's argument indicates this page is the WP:PTOPIC of "The Fault in Our Stars". (non-admin closure) Dantus21 (talk) 16:41, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

– There are four entries listed upon The Fault in Our Stars (disambiguation) page, with little indication that the novel's renown exceeds the combined notability of the remaining three entries as well as notability of the partially revised quotation from Julius Caesar. The quotation itself does not have its own English Wikipedia entry, unlike Give me liberty, or give me death!, which does have an article. The use of that quotation's excerpt, Give Me Liberty, has been likewise nominated at the currently active Talk:Give Me Liberty. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:17, 22 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  NW1223 &lt; Howl at me &bull; My hunts &gt; 13:57, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The Fault in Our Stars → The Fault in Our Stars (novel)
 * The Fault in Our Stars (disambiguation) → The Fault in Our Stars
 * Oppose. No point. The only other topics are the film adaptation and soundtrack of the film, and a TV episode that isn't notable. As for the quotation, who is possibly searching "The Fault in Our Stars" for "The fault, Brutus, is not in our stars..."? Nohomersryan (talk) 14:32, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose Although movie adaptations can often overshadow the original novel for primary topic status, The Fault in Our Stars sold 23 million copies, so I'd say its notability is strong enough. 162 etc. (talk) 17:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Support - multiple topics of prominence (especially the novel and film) and none are more likely than the rest combined to be sought, so we should do what we can to avoid the ambiguity. -- Netoholic @ 11:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose Agree entirely with above opposes. As a bit of evidence, the first page of Google Scholar search results is all for the novel. Hameltion (talk &#124; contribs) 15:01, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. The film gets somewhat more |The_Fault_in_Our_Stars|The_Fault_in_Our_Stars_(film)|The_Fault_in_Our_Stars_(soundtrack) pageviews than the novel, although both are significant. So no clear primary topic, although as long as a hatnote points directly to the film (I've just added one), the need to move is not urgent. Station1 (talk) 03:40, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose With what appear to be nearly all views seeking the book or its film adaptation, the proposed change in disambiguation would hinder rather than aid reader navigation.--Yaksar (let's chat) 02:52, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The Give Me Liberty move is also interesting, but not a similar situation -- in part because in this case the source quote isn't particularly notable by itself, but mostly because this title doesn't appear anywhere in it.--Yaksar (let's chat) 03:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.