Talk:Thirty Seconds to Mars discography

Request to Revert the Chart Positions
I previously edited the chart positions, separating the peak positions for the Rock Songs chart and the Mainstream Rock Tracks, but it is now changed to accommodate all the chart positions from the Mainstream Rock chart (prior to 2009) under Rock Songs. This is incorrect, and I will be editing it back if someone doesn't. --Crocodileman (talk) 21:19, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Kings & Queens chart peak
Don't u get that the #20 chart peak is for the Rock Songs chart? If u wanna know the difference between the Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks chart and the Rock Songs chart, look up their wiki pages. IT...WILL...TELL YOU!!76.110.128.158 (talk) 22:14, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit request from Swimmie, 2 July 2010
The song Kings & Queens peaked in the netherlands on number 21 on the actual Top 40, and number 1 on the Tip 30. So that has to be changed. In that reference you can clearly see that I am right about this. This Is War did not reach the top 40 in The Netherlands, it came to position 12 at the Tip 30, so number 52 in the Top 40. Closer To The Edge is currently on number 29 in the Tip 30, so on number 69 on the Top 40. Hope you will change this, I wanted to do it if I was allowed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.123.149.64 (talk) 08:25, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't understand
Why you reverted this edit?--95.239.183.172 (talk) 17:12, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit request from Jreznech, 27 May 2010
For the single "This is War", the US Rock charts have it at 15, which is better than the 17 posted on the page.

Jon Rez 18:47, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

✅ Thanks. Spigot Map  18:51, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Revision of 14:52, 11 May 2010
I see a better page here. Why did you revert this edit? And then, Closer to the Edge is the new single and its promo was released on May 31. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.55.5.47 (talk) 18:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Problems with infodisc.fr as source for This Is War
I just partially reverted the edit of another editor, who replaced the lescharts.com archive site of Hung Medien with the infodisc.fr archive site (InfoDisc) for the French peaks on the Albums table. Both sites are listed at WP:GOODCHARTS, along with the Disque en France site (disqueenfrance.com) of the SNEP itself. My reason is a very strong suspicion that there's an error on the infodisc.fr page for This Is War.

That page is at http://www.infodisc.fr/Albums_ChartRun.php, sort of, which means that you go to that page, wait for the enormous list of artists to load up before you can use the page (or other windows of your browser), then select 30 Seconds to Mars (or type "3" to jump to it in the alpha-sorted list), then click "OK". The page that comes up is at the URL http://www.infodisc.fr/Albums_Runs.php, but that's what they all use; that URL alone won't help you.

Anyway, the results page shows This Is War as having appeared on the charts in five consecutive weeks, placing "106 - 14 - 45 -161 -156" starting from 2009-11-30. That "14" in the second week would be the peak, then, much higher than the 96 provided by the lescharts.com ref we had before. It's so much higher, in fact, that I was suspicious, and looked into it some more.

The lescharts.com page is at http://lescharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=Thirty+Seconds+To+Mars&titel=This+Is+War&cat=a, and shows the album charting for 7 consecutive weeks from 05/12/2009, plus one week after a re-entry at 167 in June. That page shows a peak of 96 in the second week, marked as 12/12/2009.

I then looked for some source to break this deadlock, and ended up going to the SNEP's Disque en France site. Here's what I found there:


 * http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/pag-256595-Albums-nouveautes.html?cid=320664  106  Semaine du 30/11/2009 au 06/12/2009
 * http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/pag-256595-Albums-nouveautes.html?cid=321774    96  Semaine du 07/12/2009 au 13/12/2009
 * http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/pag-256595-Albums-nouveautes.html?cid=322947  132  Semaine du 14/12/2009 au 20/12/2009
 * http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/pag-256595-Albums-nouveautes.html?cid=323482  161  Semaine du 21/12/2009 au 27/12/2009
 * http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/pag-256595-Albums-nouveautes.html?cid=324138  156  Semaine du 28/12/2009 au 03/01/2010
 * http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/pag-256595-Albums-nouveautes.html?cid=324793  184  Semaine du 04/01/2010 au 10/01/2010
 * http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/pag-256595-Albums-nouveautes.html?cid=325424  178  Semaine du 11/01/2010 au 17/01/2010
 * http://www.disqueenfrance.com/fr/pag-256595-Albums-nouveautes.html?cid=326584     --  Semaine du 18/01/2010 au 24/01/2010

That's seven consecutive weeks of charting (nothing the week before or the week after that string), with the same numbers shown at lescharts.com. I Some of the numbers are the same at InfoDisc, but a couple of weeks are missing. I don't know where InfoDisc got "14" (or "45"), but I really believe these are input errors. I've gone back to the "96" and the lescharts.com reference in the table. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 21:23, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I looked for other sources and I found that the 14 and 45 are the digital download positions . InfoDisc probably made confusion.--Dear87 (talk) 23:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for the follow-up. The numbers really are on two different scales then. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 00:57, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

From Yesterday certification
From Yesterday was certified platinum in the UK in 2008. This is also mentioned on a Rock Sound article of December 2009, that also states the gold certification of The Kill.--95.239.182.83 (talk) 20:30, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I hope you'll understand when I say that Some Guy selling cardboard souvenirs on eBay does not outweigh a DB search at BPI when it comes to verifying UK record certifications. Magazine articles, even with complete citations including author and page number, don't usually trump providers like BPI, either. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 12:03, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, I understand that eBay isn't a reliable source, but Rock Sound is a reliable and verifiable source. I think that these certifications should be mentioned on this article.--95.234.20.38 (talk) 14:18, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * These Italian IP addresses asking for changes in 30 Seconds to Mars articles are always socks of ItHysteria. Blocked this one.&mdash;Kww(talk) 15:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 15:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm just saying you what I found. Rock Sound wrote "The climb was more or less over when A Beautiful Lie went platinum in the States, the UK and Italy, not to mention gold in Australia, Canada and South Africa, putting the album's worldwide sales somewhere in the rarefied neighbourhood of three and a half million, according to some tallies. The album produced the hits The Kill (platinum in the US and Canada, gold in the UK and Australia), From Yesterday (gold in Italy and New Zealand) and A Beautiful Lie (certified gold by MTV International)." The article is written by J. Bennett. The band posted on the old website an article called "The Kill Will Nerver Die" (it is now available on the official forum) that stated the single is certified platinum. I looked for RIANZ certifications before May 20, 2007, but I didn't find nothing. Maybe From Yesterday was certified before that date. The official Italian website also mentioned the gold certification of the single A Beautiful Lie in Italy. It was also certified gold by MTV. This article from yesterday states that A Beautiful Lie and This Is War are certified gold in Germany. And the next single will be Search and Destroy (not Hurricane, as written in the template) that is set to be released digitally on October 25. Please read. Thanks.--79.37.31.148 (talk) 15:03, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

German chart position
Hurricane debuted at No. 76 in Germany! Please include... --79.216.182.128 (talk) 14:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Hurricane is No. 58 that week in Germany... Please add that! --79.216.215.56 (talk) 11:38, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Hurricane is No. 52 that week in Germany... Please add that! --79.216.215.56 (talk) 11:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Hurricane is No. 45 that week in Germany... Please add that! --79.216.215.56 (talk) 11:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.216.203.226 (talk)

Portugal Certification
--79.168.89.241 (talk) 15:21, 16 February 2011 (UTC)It says This Is War is double platium in Portugal, this information is wrong. The record was certified gold in February, 2011, even the singer confirmed it. Here are the sources:

http://www.afp.org.pt/top.php?top=topalbuns&qano=2011&sem=5 http://www.tweetsoup.com/item/1060167

Chart position
Closer To The Edge is No. 106 in the USA SOURCE--79.216.168.84 (talk) 00:56, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Germany
This Is War is Platinum in Germany. http://www.musikindustrie.de/gold_platin_datenbank/#topSearch

--79.199.42.143 (talk) 16:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
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