Talk:Uplift Universe

language section
Some of this really doesn't jive with my understanding of the languages depicted in the books.


 * Anglic was developed as a universal language for all earthlings, replacing the myriad languages spoken by humans today by blending a number of widely spoken languages together. Terran schools also teach GalSeven, a galactic language used by a great many species.


 * Dolphins are portrayed as being very adept at various languages. Among themselves dolphins speak an extremely fast dialect of Anglic that is hard for humans to follow, but also compose haiku by whistling in a language called "Trinary", and have another language referred to as "Primal Dolphin" that is what non-uplifted dolphins use to communicate, as in, what dolphins actually do right now. Many also speak GalFour and/or GalTen,  galactic languages employing sonar.


 * GalTwo is a "bridging language" that almost any species can learn, described as "basic, logical, unamibiguous...and boring".

I don't know that we need to go into that level of detail in the article itself butwhat is there right now seems incorrect. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:09, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Devolution
This is another area that seems to disconnect somewhat from what is actually in the novels. The path of redemtion, as it is called, is rarely used in galactic culture. Most species aspire to become members of the Transcendent Order, not to devolve. This may be conflating the situation on Jijo (setting of Brightness Reef and Infinity's Shore, where groups from a number of races live a primitive existence ostensibly in pursuit of devolution, but some of the groups, including humans, are really just kind of hiding there) with galaxtic society at large. The normal course is presapient to uplifted client, to patron, to the Retired Order, and finally Trancedence, which is either moving on to another plane of existence living inside a gravity well, or entire species dying in deep space, both are witnessed by the crew of Streaker in Heaven's Reach. I think if we dialogue here we can resove these discrepencies, I have not read all the new found sources but I do have access to all six novels (which, coincidnetally I just finished re-reading literally the day before the deletion nomination) as well as Contacting Aliens: An Illustrated Guide to David Brin's Uplift Universe. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:23, 26 January 2022 (UTC)