Talk:VoIP phone

Requested move

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No consensus to move. I'm going to renominate to start a discussion on the three options raised in the discussion to see if there is consensus. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:24, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

IP Phone → IP phone — User:Frap 16:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Oppose use VoIP phone instead (or VOIP telephone) . 65.93.12.93 (talk) 04:51, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose this move. Instead, either move to VoIP phone as 65.93.12.93 suggested, or, even better (and I actually, truely support this one), move to VoIP telephone. I know that Wikipedia uses the common name, but to support and use the colloqial slang "phone" all the time, instead of the full and more professional "telephone", is silly for an encyclopedia. [&#124;Retro00064&#124;&#9742;talk&#124;&#x270D;contribs&#124;] 03:28, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: VoIP phone is more natural and concise than VoIP telephone. --Pnm (talk) 06:05, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
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Requested move 2

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The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 08:45, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

IP Phone → VoIP phone — Consider options raised above. --Vegaswikian (talk) 20:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

The above discussion was opposed to the move as proposed but did bring up options for a 'better' name. These are VOIP telephone, VoIP telephone, VoIP phone or VOIP phone. I'm just nominating this as a new discussion as a part of closing this discussion and I'm not expressing an opinion as to which is best. Not sure how WP:CAPS will affect the discussion. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:32, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I think VoIP telephone and VoIP phone are the viable ones. It's always "VoIP". --Pnm (talk) 00:02, 22 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Support move to VoIP phone. Compared to IP Phone, it's more recognizable. It's equally natural, equally precise, equally consistent. It's less concise but not by much, and the recognizability is worth it. (Only equally precise because "phone" makes "voice" redundant.) Oppose move to formal-sounding VoIP telephone. Compared to VoIP phone, it's less natural and concise; and equally recognizable, precise, and consistent. (Equally consistent because while we have telephone, we also have mobile phone.) --Pnm (talk) 00:02, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Support move to VoIP phone. VoIP is the standard form of the abbreviation of Voice over Internet Protocol, so that is the form we should use. Also, even if we do not move the page to VoIP telephone, we should create a redirect there for people who look that up. (L.O.L., The formal "VoIP telephone" redirecting to the colloqialism "VoIP phone"! Does WP:COMMONNAME absolutely aplly here? If there is an English-speaking person in this world that does not know that "telephone" is the full meaning of the colloquialism "phone", then I am not snacking after dinner tonight. :-D ;-) [&#124;Retro00064&#124;&#9742;talk&#124;&#x270D;contribs&#124;] 00:25, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * A move to VoIP phone is ok. But I prefer a move to IP Telephony, which is the most common term. Or a merge with VoIP, wich is a wider term. Mange01 (talk) 21:09, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
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Is this about PoE or VoIP?
Why is this written from the view of justifying PoE? It seems like PoE is one of the least relevant components of a VoIP phone there is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.11.22.101 (talk) 23:55, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Too Narrow A View Of The Subject
This article appears to miss out on related names and methods. For instance, is a VOIP phone an IP phone? Is an IP phone an Ethernet phone? Is a USB phone the same or similar to the others? Does a USB phone have the same benefits as a PoE phone? Worse yet, any analog phone is a VOIP phone when plugged into an ATA (Analog Telephone Adapter). Further, there is a lack of clarity between software and hardware. I believe this can be handled far better than it is. We need some experts to chime in. --KitchM (talk) 01:40, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * If you can find some good sources, add them in and maybe someone will come along and use them to help towards making any improvements? Bungle (talk • contribs) 17:21, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Incoherence
Anyone new to this topic area would need a technology interpreter to translate the information into PSE. This incoherent description in a publication dedicated to readers seeking encyclopedic quality clarity is a major failure on the part of an encyclopedic resource.

It’s not that the authors don’t know their audience and purpose. It is pure self-centered laziness and disregard for the reader unfamiliar with the topic. Or, have technology based authors lost all regard for the reader seeking descriptions of topics in clear, familiar language that doesn’t require a consultant to comprehend and translate to the average person? How insensitive and self-centered that seems when you are authoring a description for an encyclopedic resource the general public can understand. 2603:9000:D10C:A054:FC80:8010:3CC8:7572 (talk) 19:31, 22 January 2022 (UTC)