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Broken/Old Links
Some of the links are out of date or are 'dead links' that no longer take you to the desired destination. Wouldn't it be in the best interest of the volleyball page if all of the sources were reliable?

Thanks, Skylerburnham (talk) 07:14, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2018
I suggest that the computer animation of the float serve be removed from this page. It serves no justifiable or useful purpose, and the animation is poorly done with improper physics, and therefore does not accurately represent a float serve. I'm a veteran volleyball coach and that is the worst serve animation I have ever seen! 45.27.76.252 (talk) 17:37, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template.  JTP  (talk • contribs) 02:41, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

New sources and updates
Hello all,

Over the coming week, I will add sources to much of the content of this article. The volleyball page is currently severely lacking in sources for at least the following sections:


 * Rules of the game
 * Skills
 * Team play
 * Coaching
 * Strategy

I intend to add a few sources to some -- if not all -- of those sections to make the article's content more verifiable and more in accordance with Wikipedia's six good article criteria.

I also intend to update the article by discussing some of the more recent major events and changes within the sport.

Lastly, I aim to add a section to discuss or reference significant controversies in the sport of volleyball.

If anyone has any thoughts or advice on this, including feedback on whether or not I should make certain changes, please let me know in the next few days before I make my edits. Pmanew (talk) 01:26, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Broken/old Links
links for towel volleyball and snow volley ball are not correct. Would it best to remove them them until cited information can be performed? Thanks--ENH03 (talk) 22:08, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Spike
Attack section should be broken down into Spike section and Something section. '' Spike refers to jumping and hitting the ball. It's a volleyball shot. Spikes can be delivered in two ways: with an open hand using a wrist snap motion to put top spin on the volleyball to make it harder for the opponent to return; or delivered with a closed fist, although the open palm provides a better ability to aim the ball. Spike types: hard-driven spike, off-speed spike, standing spike, open-handed tip; The “off-speed” spike is also known as the “roll shot”. The “standing” spike is also known as the “down ball”.'' http://www.oakvillevolleyball.com/different-types-spikes-volleyball/ Other information in the section is concerning tactics, setting the attack, not the spike per se.213.149.62.12 (talk) 03:01, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Tempos
There is nothing on Offensive Tempo.

Offense in volleyball can be said to be "in system" or "out of system".

Here (https://uk.humankinetics.com/blogs/excerpts/learn-about-implementing-a-fast-tempo-strategy) it mentions "fast-tempo" but it's unclear to what it refers to. 213.149.62.12 (talk) 03:10, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * First Tempo, also called a quick
 * Second Tempo
 * Third Tempo/Out of System
 * Zero Tempo (https://coachingvb.com/what-is-zero-tempo/), is a thing that is kind of a novelty

Suggested improvements
These are some suggestions that I have for this page which I don't think I would be able to do myself.

-The *libero* section has a number of grammatical errors, however I am not competent enough at English to correct this myself

-There is an statement about why the scoring system was changed which is not sourced

--RobbieM13 (talk) 18:27, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Edit Suggestion
I wont edit this personally, but I would like to consider the following edit for clarity - the sentence is a bit awkward. Change:

"Nowadays, libero works as a second setter, when setter dig the ball, libero will help to set."

To:

"The modern day libero often takes on the role of a second setter. When the setter digs the ball, the libero is typically responsible for the second ball and sets the front row attacker."

Timgrib (talk) 14:06, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

I have made the edit you suggested, but in future my advice is to just edit yourself. A critical part of the wikipedia process is the BRD cycle and the edit was certainly needed. RobbieM13 (talk) 15:35, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I am not a frequent contributor to wikipedia, so I didn't know all the rules.

Timgrib (talk) 16:26, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

It's fine, and you can still make suggestions this way without breaking any rules, I was just pointing out that you are just as valid a contributor as anybody else and you're free to make the edits you want :) RobbieM13 (talk) 19:28, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2019
You can also play volleyball on snow as said by FIVB: http://www.fivb.com/en/snowvolleyball/whatissnowvolleyball. This should therefore be along grass, sand and indoor volleyball. LeksikonOle (talk) 16:19, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Snow volleyball is already listed under . Is there another specific place you think it should be added to this article? &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 16:53, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2019
To make an overhand set, the libero must be standing behind (and not stepping on) the 3-meter line; otherwise, the ball cannot be attacked above the net in front of the 3-meter line or behind the 3-meter line. If the Libero sets the ball in front of the 3-meter line, no one on the court can jump above the net and attack that ball. They are allowed to set anywhere behind that line, but not in front on the second contact. Kenzsully22 (talk) 01:10, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NiciVampireHeart 09:27, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Portal:Volleyball for deletion
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Volleyball is a team sport in which two teams of six players are separated by a net. Each team tries to score points by grounding a ball on the other team's court under organized rules.[1] It has been a part of the official program of the Summer Olympic Games since Tokyo 1964.

The complete set of rules is extensive,[2] but play essentially proceeds as follows: a player on one of the teams begins a 'rally' by serving the ball (tossing or releasing it and then hitting it with a hand or arm), from behind the back boundary line of the court, over the net, and into the receiving team's court.[3] The receiving team must not let the ball be grounded within their court. The team may touch the ball up to 3 times, but individual players may not touch the ball twice consecutively.[3] Typically, the first two touches are used to set up for an attack, an attempt to direct the ball back over the net in such a way that the serving team is unable to prevent it from being grounded in their court.

The rally continues, with each team allowed as many as three consecutive touches, until either (1): a team makes a kill, grounding the ball on the opponent's court and winning the rally; or (2): a team commits a fault and loses the rally. The team that wins the rally is awarded a point and serves the ball to start the next rally. The team to get to 25 points first, wins the set. The goals is to win two out of three sets. A few of the most common faults include:

causing the ball to touch the ground or floor outside the opponents' court or without first passing over the net; catching and throwing the ball; double hit: two consecutive contacts with the ball made by the same player; four consecutive contacts with the ball made by the same team; net foul: touching the net during play; foot fault: the foot crosses over the boundary line when serving. The ball is usually played with the hands or arms, but players can legally strike or push (short contact) the ball with any part of the body. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.162.176.80 (talk) 01:09, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2020
Lesliesantos24 (talk) 00:18, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — IVORK Talk 02:20, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 April 2021
kjfie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.234.48.198 (talk) 20:21, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Volleyball- first section
the last paragraph talks about volleyball technique and then it evolved over time, but there was no source for the information. I have found a source that includes that information and I am going to add it. Cquag1 (talk) 17:44, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

the first sentence in the third paragraph is confusing and hard to follow. I am going to change the wording to make it more concise and clear. Cquag1 (talk) 17:49, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 August 2021
212.2.212.117 (talk) 12:55, 8 August 2021 (UTC) As of 2021 with 48 medals overall he is the most successful team sport coach of all time. We would like to add this essential information about our sport to the page Volleyball as a team sport which is mentioned at the page team sport.
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  Mel ma nn   13:58, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

"Feet can go over the inline" – what is meant?
Under headline Serve, it is stated regarding the jump float server: "It is the only serve where the server's feet can go over the inline." What does that mean? It is some years since I last played volleyball and rigourously knew the rules, but I can hardly imagine that there is a situation where a server can step on the line. If that is what is meant, that is. If something else is meant, maybe the sentence should be rewritten Fomalhaut76 (talk) 16:03, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree, because there is no source I am going to delete itCquag1 (talk) 16:43, 28 April 2021 (UTC).

If a jump server jumps over the line when they are serving it does not count because they cannot stop themselves from jumping over the line. Mconell (talk) 19:43, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Vollyball
Vollyball is national sport of srilanka.it need 2 of team.it need 6 player on one team.it is beautiful sport 112.134.152.113 (talk) 02:13, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

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Volleyball
The ball of the Volleyball sport is called a valley ball.2 2601:147:4380:5BD0:A5:E196:DE17:ED98 (talk) 01:42, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

UK or American English?
The first paragraph of the lede uses both spellings of program/programme. One form of English should be chosen for the article. --Somarain (talk) 09:56, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

== Volleyball is a team sport in which two teams of six players are separated by a net. Each team tries to score points by grounding a ball on the other team's court under organized rules.[1] It has been a part of the official program of the Summer Olympic Games since Tokyo 1964. Beach volleyball was introduced to the programme at the Atlanta 1996. The adapted version of volleyball at the Summer Paralympic Games is sitting volleyball. ==

Volleyball is a team sport in which two teams of six players are separated by a net. Each team tries to score points by grounding a ball on the other team's court under organized rules.[1] It has been a part of the official program of the Summer Olympic Games since Tokyo 1964. Beach volleyball was introduced to the programme at the Atlanta 1996. The adapted version of volleyball at the Summer Paralympic Games is sitting volleyball. 148.101.150.146 (talk) 00:47, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Player Rotation Paragraph
I think the paragraph on player rotation should be moved down and given its own heading. Presently it appears as part of the court description, before the ball description, so it's like it's in the equipment section instead of with the game play rules. And it would be nice if someone expert enough added more discussion of the interplay between the rotation and the use of substitutions to still allow specialist roles, a topic which seems to only come up incidentally at the moment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.72.153 (talk) 00:12, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

"Lebro" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Volleyball
Information 103.109.14.168 (talk) 15:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2022
Request to change the description of the animation in the "Serve" subsection from "3D animation floating serve" to "A 3D animation of a floating serve". Thanks! LankyLasagna (talk) 00:07, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 00:21, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Is further consensus required for a simple copyedit? Perhaps using the caption " A floating serve" would be more in-line with the style guide, but otherwise this change seems uncontroversial to me. LankyLasagna (talk) 00:49, 23 October 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ looked like an easy non controversial change. --McSly (talk) 02:08, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

How to play?
Volleyball 2405:201:5C02:31BF:F071:D29B:1357:AA9B (talk) 09:10, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Elga
Go 43.224.129.144 (talk) 15:10, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

My favourite sport
P 43.224.129.144 (talk) 15:12, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

My favourite sport
Volleyball 43.224.129.144 (talk) 15:12, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Most successful coach
As of 2021 with 48 medals overall he is the most successful team sport coach of all time. We would like to add this essential information about our sport to the page Volleyball as a team sport which is mentioned at the page team sport. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.2.212.117 (talk) 12:50, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 January 2023
136.158.44.169 (talk) 00:46, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Highest governing body Federale Internationale de Volleyball at the End


 * I will play I will @ 41.114.248.7 (talk) 18:52, 8 May 2023 (UTC)