Talk:Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne

Dark Knight
Since when has Garithos been a Dark Knight??? It said so in the article --Richielin 12:00, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * On one of the Undead campaign missions in TFT, you can use Garithos, and it specifies him as a "Dark Knight." (Note: not a 'death knight').

Yoda921 06:05, 27 January 2007 (UTC)Yoda

Strange Glitch?!
Who the hell wrote that? That English is awful! Need fixing, badly (and I don't really have the time to do it, hench the posting of it here.) --ACE Spark 22:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, im just deleting it. It has nothing relvant to being on Wikipedia at all. Feel free to reverse this - but if you do - AT LEAST fix the broken Engrish! --ACE Spark 22:37, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Spellcasters vs. Anti-Spellcasters
According to Mojo StormStout's Warcraft III Strategy Guide, anti-spellcasters are designed to fight spellcasters (see Spell Basics page). Anti-spellcasters include the Spell Breaker, Spirit Walker, Dryad, Faeire Dragon and Destroyer. Recently, I've corrected the Spirit Walker's description from spellcaster to anti-spellcaster but it got reverted back to spellcaster. I can understand the reason.

If the description uses spellcaster, then it would be consistent with all the other descriptions of units (nowhere else does the article mention anti-spellcaster) and it would simplify all the spell units as spellcasters. If the description uses anti-spellcaster (which is more accurate), then it would be the only anti-spellcaster description, possibly confusing readers. To avoid confusion, perhaps the other descriptions of anti-spellcasters could be reworded, or a separate section could introduce anti-spellcasters as something new to the Frozen Throne. Any thoughts? Is it even necessary to make the distinction between spellcasters and anti-spellcasters? I won't change it back to anti-spellcaster unless someone suggests otherwise. --ToKnow 14:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Spirit Walker is not an anti-spellcaster at all, by definition the Spirit Walker is not "designed to fight spellcasters". Of the three spells that the Spirit Walker has, only one could be considered an anti-spellcaster spell (disenchant). This is the same as the human priest, three spells, one of which is a disenchant spell. The human priest is not an anti-spellcaster, and neither is the Spirit Walker. The orcs don't have a anti-spellcaster unit, becuase that is the nature of their race. --Spazm 15:21, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I know it's irrelevant now, but it can be argued both ways, given that Mojo StormStout's Warcraft III Strategy Guide is inconsistent. Of all the spellcasters listed (no one would argue that the priest is an anti-spellcaster), the Spirit Walker has different stats than the rest. In addition, they also list the Spirit Walker as an anti-spellcaster. So they're both? Whatever, of course, it doesn't really matter anymore. Thank you for correcting me. --ToKnow 03:11, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Spirit Walkers are used as a source of some very decent dps against certain units by progamers and people who copy what progamers do(read:knowledgeable people), so they could be a dps unit? I'm just kidding. Of course it's a spellcaster.

Or maybe, like Human Priests, Forest Troll High Priests, and Mur'gul Casters, they are both a spellcaster and an anti-spellcaster? Wisps are also anti-spellcasters. — Teelo

Expansion Name
It should probably be noted that the name of the expansion is "Frozen Throne", not "The Frozen Throne".
 * If one carefully looks at the logo, one will see a very small "The" next to "Frozen Throne." But it is more interesting to visit Blizzard's Warcraft III: Frozen Throne product page. The title (referring to the HTML tag) of the webpage is "Warcraft III: Frozen Throne," but the product description bolds the title "Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne." Personally, I believe it is "The Frozen Throne." In addition, many gamers abbreviate it as TFT, implying that it contains "The." However, I'm not really sure. This is just a comment. --ToKnow 23:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I own the game and the word "The" is right next to "Frozen Throne". 76.110.82.251 (talk) 00:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC) on the start menu it is listed as the frozen throne.

John Rhys-Davies
He makes a noteable appearance in the game.


 * This sort of thing can be put into the List of pop culture references in Warcraft (I'll get my edit right yet...). Altair 14:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Um, where does he make an appearance? I haven't heard of this. Is he voicing one of the dwarves or something?

Merge
See Talk:Dark Deeds JASpencer 19:03, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I say just delete the Dark Deeds article as non-notable clutter. There's no reason to merge. JimmyBlackwing 20:39, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Though, if it must be merged, it should be merged to the custom maps section in the Warcraft III article. Altair 15:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Advanced Melee AI
There was a recent edit by 194.250.20.206 to include a link to a website which is about advancing the AI in Warcraft. I'm not sure this merits inclusion. I'm not removing it, yet. Currently looking up policies about the threshold for external links.--Htmlism 20:37, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Upon review of the website in question, I've decided that the link should be kept. The website seems to be a valuable resource, albeit for a specific part of the game. Only the link text and description were cleaned up.--Htmlism 21:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Additions
In the Additions section, is it really necessary to list all the new units/buildings or just the player-controllable ones? --ToKnow 02:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe it is neccesary to differenticate this game from the game it expands apon by giving a brief detail of ALL the new units (not heroes or buildings). However, that's just my humble opinion, and generally "Units" sections are shot down because people say "Wikipedia is not a strategy guide". Hmm... I know it's an encyclopedia and all but more and more I'm starting to think Wikipedia is NOT a site worth going to. User:Radman622 01:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is NOT a strategy guide. For detailed game info, I recommend WoWWiki - despite its name, it is dedicated to covering all of the Warcraft games, not just World of Warcraft. Start with Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne. --Stormie (talk) 08:34, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Patch info?
"However, many of the game's players preferred patch 1.14 or 1.17 and subsequently stopped playing the game once the game was changed." This claim in the Development section of the article is stated without reference and appears to violate NPOV. I'd like to advocate removing it unless anyone has a compelling reason to leave it in. Mathfreq 20:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

From what I hear the Beastmaster of 1.14 was so full of lame BS some people stopped playing until the next patch, so I reall doubt this info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.156.129.238 (talk) 16:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Random Trivia
"Clicking on the character numerous times causes them to say "bah-weep-grahnah-weep-nini-bong! It`s the universal greeting." This is a reference to Transformers: The Movie. "

The character mentioned in this part of the Random Trivia is Illidan, or possibly the generic Demon Hunter. Could someone change this? Mapmaster-1 06:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Changed  Nikz bitz  Talk Contribs 12:46, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Alliance Campaign Minigame Revelant
May be worth stating that the Alliance campaign contains a hidden minigame which supports one of the common-features of custom-maps, tower defence (No sources for what I'm about to say but I'm guessing that blizzard implemented it as a joke to show how they acknowledge that many players like tower defence.) Also by completing this, a brewmaster is available in the next map. Its strange that its called the Alliance compaign anyway, esp. since it only follows the high elves, naga and draenei and illidin, seems more of an outland campaign. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrTheKay (talk • contribs) 18:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The Bradygames guide that comes in the battlechest acknowledges this, but as it really doesn't advance the plot it probably isn't relevant. Fusion  Mix  16:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Illidan
It is NOT true by any means that Illidan was "mortally wounded" following the battle with Arthas. Blatantly false by all means. Feel free to read up on the reason(it exists, is out there, and most already know why) for the unintended confusion with that battle scene. - rock8591 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rock8591 (talk • contribs) 22:53, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Then it's a good thing you fixed it, eh. Fusion  Mix  23:00, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Importance
Unless some concrete reason can be provided to show why this is a game of Mid importance to the VG project, it's been downgraded to Low.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 07:07, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

esports scene


 * I say why this game should be on Mid Importance is because this game is a huge E-Sport, It's not every game that gets to be an E-sport. --Poohunter (talk) 22:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Publisher
I have an european version of Wc3 tft but I can't find Sierra Entertainment anywhere. Sure that it's not published from Blizzard?--87.162.76.2 (talk) 23:03, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

The NAGA
The Naga are the the coolest race in warcraft 3, but on the battle.net site there is no reference other than the naga sea witch info. In my opinion the Naga do not have enough units and they almost have one Hero the Naga sea witch. I'm trying to make the Naga a formidable force on the world editer but I'm having problems making Custom Heros. If anyone could help please post a site or the information i need to make custom heros, or just post about the Naga... whatever works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexco creator11 (talk • contribs) 15:02, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

WC3 esports scene
This page needs a section on WC3s esports scene. It's the best micro based RTS played competitivly. It's also very popular in China and internationally.

More References
I believe this Article needs some added references because it doesn't have many and there are many things that can be referenced in this article so i added the reference banner, if anyone disagrees with me please reply to this and tell me why you disagree and maybe then we can remove the banner, meanwhile I will continue adding references. --Poohunter (talk) 21:39, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

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Pre-GA comments: Hearthstone reference and plot length
I noticed you nominated this for GA. I don't have enough time right now to dedicate myself to a full review, but I'll quickly note that per WP:VG/CONTENT, a plot section should be around 700 words. Right now, (not including synopsis), it's coming in at around 800 words. Also, it's very "x did y" which makes reading it a tad unenjoyable. My other comment is regarding the legacy. Hearthstone released an expansion last year entitled "Knights of the Frozen Throne" and features The Lich King and other characters from this.  Anarchyte ( work  &#124;  talk )  09:29, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Darn, I remembered 800, not 700. I'll go fix that later. Also, thanks for the links, I'll work it in. Regards SoWhy 09:45, 6 August 2018 (UTC)