Talk:XrossMediaBar

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

move. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) Seen this already? 06:55, 5 April 2006 (UTC) Cross Media Bar (XMB) → Cross Media Bar – There's no reason to have parentheses in the title; it's not disambiguating anything. --Phoenix-forgotten 19:19, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

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 * Support. See the request above. Phoenix-forgotten 19:19, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Support per nom (and my understanding of Wikipedia policy). David Kernow 00:53, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Support, I never understood why it was there in the first place. —   pd_THOR  undefined | 00:56, 1 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Folding
Is it really worth mentioning Folding@Home in this article? I don't think it's relevant at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.220.29.170 (talk) 18:26, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

BRAVIA
I got a BRAVIA KDL-32S3000 over the summer and it has XMB. ( as opposed to only the XBR, which even the guy who sold it to me insisted was the only to have it ) Looking on SonyStyle, all of the 3000 S-series are listed as having it. So I made that addition. --Quaru (talk) 22:07, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

"originally used in the PS2 DVD Movie Playback HUD?"
My PS2 doesn't use the XMB interface -- it's the model before the slim-line PS2 release so either Sony used the XMB UI in previous versions and then took it out, or added it to the slim-line PS2 release, or else this claim is just wrong. Clarification please. --NJM 05:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Look to the DVD HUD in playback options (translucent) is the same concept.
 * If you're talking about the on-screen controls you use with a DualShock instead of the real remote, then that isn't anything like the XMB GUI. Otherwise, what are you talking about? --NJM 01:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Some icons are the same but it's not the same concept. --Ragnarok Addict 11:15, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * No, PS2 does NOT have XMB, but PSX does. PSX function just like a PS2, but with added feature. It's not original PS (sometimes called PS, PS1, or PSX)--w_tanoto 15:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

The PS2 does not use the XMB interface, it was first released with the PSX (the DVR based PS2, way later in the PS2's lifespan), that was only released in Japan) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DevonTheDude (talk • contribs) 06:56, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Copy Edit changes
Removed the icons section, as the information within was merged into the introduction (is that the proper term for it?) of the article. The rest of the information regarding the PSP was branched off into it's own section. Reworded and expanded the Control section, based on the original description, as well as videos of the XMB in action (I do not yet own any Sony products which use the XMB, so I'm making logical guesses here).

I left most of the content intact, but just reworded it and added on some bits for clarity. --Jsloan31 13:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

VAIO?
the XMB is also highly used in some hi-end sony vaio notebooks and are already installed when buying one. --pascalbrax 2006-12-04
 * I doubt it. I've seen a lot of VAIOs, but none have the XMB. The only type of Sony-made interface I've seen on a VAIO is like the touchscreen-optimized menu on the UX-series. Perhaps you could show me us a photo or screenshot?(Myscrnnm 22:52, 2 June 2007 (UTC))

There is no XMB b/c Sony Vaio computers support Windows Media Center. Apple has their own (Ilife) version of Media Center which is just basic forms of the XMB. Sony doesn't make Windows software, just Playstation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DevonTheDude (talk • contribs) 06:54, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it's being added now to the VAIO FW laptop line. See here. LeoO3 (talk) 17:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Xross Media Bar?
I thought it was already decided to leave it as Cross Media Bar not Xross Media Bar. Why was it moved back? Ryan McCue Let's have a chat 06:13, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes it is Cross Media Bar NOT Xross, go to Playstation.com and check it. The PS3 and PSP boxes say Cross Media Bar. The X in XMB is short for cross (i.e. x-walk or cross walk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by DevonTheDude (talk • contribs) 06:49, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

buttons
Which buttons are select and which are back on this bar, it does not explain. I know that playstation has always had x as select, but at least on a japanese (or some other country that is not where I live (Australia))had circle as select, it was really frustrating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.84.21.214 (talk • contribs) 07:44, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe it's mainly because "X" is a reference to "Execute" in the U.S; Xenosaga (possibly -gears too) Series broke this trend (possibly other games too) with "O" being select. 66.168.19.135 (talk) 16:33, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

XrossMediaBar
XrossMediaBar, as stupid as it sounds, is the only thing Sony has ever called it. I suggest the article be changed to reflect that (including it's article location).


 * http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/basicoperations/xmb.html
 * http://www.memorystick.com/en/lifestyle/ps3/photo.html
 * http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/products/showproduct.asp?PID=991&keycode=3417

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Chimaera2005 (talk • contribs) 05:00, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * There are other examples of Sony using the term "Cross Media Bar". For example, http://au.playstation.com/support/ps3/guide/crossmediabar_index.jhtml.  For the PSP documentation, it is usually referred to as the "home menu" (most likely because you activate it by pressing the "home" button). --James 07:00, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I just performed a Google search of the domains sony.com, sonystyle.com and playstation.com and it appears that "Xross Media Bar" (also XrossMediaBar) has at least three times the results as "Cross Media Bar," leading me to believe that "Xross Media Bar" is it's true form. It seems that in Australia and New Zealand they chose to change it to Cross for some reason. -Chimaera2005 07:26, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Doing a trade mark search shows that the "Xross Media Bar" registration was not awarded until February this year (they applied for it back in August 2004 though). So it is possible that Sony didn't start pushing this spelling until recently.  They certainly don't seem to be consistent though -- for example, they use both spellings on this page.
 * The real test is whether the general public adopts the new spelling too. If the interface is commonly known as "Xross Media Bar", then the current article name is fine.  If people continue to call it the "Cross Media Bar", then perhaps it should be moved back to the original location. --James 15:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


 * If Wikipedia is to be taken seriously, then it needs to have factual entries. Changing an article based on public (or popular) opinion is irresponsible, and it is hardly an "encyclopedia" as it calls itself. Instead, it is just a large collection of random bits of information, catered to all the people who "just feel like changing things." -Chimaera2005 23:42, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia articles use the common name for the subject. So it actually does matter what people commonly call the interface.  I'm not sure why you think this is a problem. --James 00:17, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Considering that performing both a Google search and Wikipedia search for "Cross Media Bar" both result in the aforementioned article as a (first hit) redirect, I find your point to be moot and unsubstantiated. 8 out of 10 people say "beta" fish instead of "betta," should we go change that article to reflect it's common (and incorrect) name and pronunciation as well? Cross Media Bar is referenced and redirected, I think this case is pretty much closed. -Chimaera2005 18:12, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

how to pronounce "xross"
eksross? wut? thanks for using a made up word, sony. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.226.104.56 (talk) 05:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)


 * It's actually pronounced "cross". --208.138.31.76 (talk) 15:33, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * This is due to the greek X being pronounced "ch" --Quaru (talk) 22:01, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Heck, I pronounce it as Zross (zh-rhoss). 66.168.19.135 (talk) 16:41, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Color Change Desctiption Clarification
I wrote the PS3 color change description about 6 months ago. It isn't very clear. I think someone should rewrite the whole thing. Humphreys7 (talk) 08:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Who's the developer?
The article is contradicting itself. In the intro:
 * "The XrossMediaBar (pronounced CrossMediaBar and officially abbreviated as XMB) is an award-winning[1] graphical user interface developed by Sony."

In Developer:
 * "Q-Games Ltd, a small development company based in Kyoto, Japan, developed the graphics technology behind the XMB, its stylized background, and the built-in music visualizers"

Has one developed the software and the other the graphics? I'm kinda confused... --Kalel (talk) 10:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Good point, maybe it was a partnership between the two companies. DevonTheDude (talk) 21:57, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * The XMB is a design concept invented and specified by Sony. The individual implementation of the concept for various Sony products will be different, so perhaps this other company did the specific PS3 menu. Obviously the graphics capabilities of a PS3 are vastly superior to those on a TV or Walkman or phone! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.194.239.114 (talk) 23:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Emmy award winning?
I just looked at the link, it it looks like a lot of products are emmy award winning. Does that mean we should also add to the lead of their respective articles that Nintendo is an emmy award winning company and that The-N.com (which doesn't even have it's own article here) should be mentioned that it has won an emmy? I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with the emmy award, or the side quest awards that they do, but should it really be in the lead? JayKeaton (talk) 07:55, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've moved it to further in the lead section. I believe it should be included because it helps establish the subject's notability. It shouldn't be in the very first sentence, however, firstly, to keep the sentence as straightforward as possible, and secondly, to prevent any POV issues from arising. - kollision (talk) 11:20, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Incompatible file download?
From the section XrossMediaBar "It also has compatibility for a USB keyboard and mouse and a full web browser supporting incompatible file download function."

What exactly does this mean? Incompatible with what? Taotriad (talk) 20:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol. I see what you mean. I think it's trying to say that you can download any files, regardless of whether or not you can use them on your PS3. But I agree, it's very badly written and I'm not sure why it's even there. Is it necessary? Please, be bold.  Chimpanzee  - User | Talk | Contribs 23:17, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I went ahead and reworded it per this discussion. I think it's clearer now, and if not, let me know and I will try to word it differently. :) --  GameShowKid – talk – evidence   00:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Perfectly happy with your reworded sentence. Thanks! Taotriad (talk) 12:32, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

iPlayer
The BBC iPlayer will be added to the XMB. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aa2-2004 (talk • contribs) 20:24, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Source? - Wysprgr2005 (talk) 22:18, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Background brightness
Firmware 3.0 disables you to have a black background behind the wave, even in classic theme, so the background brightness section needs to be redone. ★ Ffgamera ★ - My page! · Talk to me!· Contribs 12:43, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

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