Template talk:Infobox basketball biography

Birth_place — additional usage instructions
Would there be any objection if I added any of the following text (taken from Infobox person/doc) below the existing one line already in the Usage section?

Thank you! —  W ILD S TAR  TALK 15:10, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Use the name of the birthplace at the time of birth, e.g.: (prior to 1976) or  (post-1976).
 * Do not use a flag template, coat of arms, or other icon.
 * Omit unnecessary or redundant details. For example, it is not necessary to state: when  conveys essentially the same information more concisely.
 * Countries should generally not be linked.
 * For subsequent places (of death, etc.) it is not necessary to repeat jurisdictional details or links for the same place name.


 * Seems too prescriptive to add en masse. They should only be added on an as-needed basis. For my own curiosity, is there a previous discussion that establishes consensus for those items that are not linked to a guideline? —Bagumba (talk) 17:23, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable. Added only the one. —  W ILD S TAR  TALK  16:09, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I have reverted your change, because this does not look like consensus of any sort. Sports infoboxes and tables usually list "City, State/Province" for teams or BLPs related to Canada and the United States. – sbaio 16:20, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose bullet 3. This infobox uses City, State/Province consistently which mirrors pretty much any roster list or sport bio you see in North America. The rest are fine. Rikster2 (talk) 16:35, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Template Needs To Be Cleaned Up
Template should include all parameters. You shouldn't need to add undocumented parameters and the Name of the player should be included within the borders like Template:Infobox NFL biography uses. Batgirl-Awsomeness (talk) 22:07, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Can you please be more specific about the changes you recommend? Also, when I compare LeBron James and Patrick Mahomes both have the player name “outside” the border. Rikster2 (talk) 23:33, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't realize that, sorry. Specifically when you add the infobox basketball biography, a good amount of parameters are not automatically generated. You have to add them as undocumented parameters. According to the template page it should have the following categories:
 * embed           =
 * name            =
 * image           =
 * image_size      =
 * alt             =
 * caption         =
 * team            =
 * number          =
 * position        =
 * league          =
 * conference      =
 * birth_date      =
 * birth_place     =
 * death_date      =
 * death_place     =
 * nationality     =
 * height_ft       =
 * height_in       =
 * height_cm       =
 * height_order    =
 * height_footnote =
 * weight_lb       =
 * weight_kg       =
 * weight_order    =
 * weight_footnote =
 * high_school     =
 * college         =
 * draft_year      =
 * draft_round     =
 * draft_pick      =
 * draft_team      =
 * draft_league    =
 * career_start    =
 * career_end      =
 * career_position =
 * career_number   =
 * coach_start     =
 * coach_end       =
 * referee_start   =
 * referee_end     =
 * years1          =
 * team1           =
 * years2          =
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 * years3          =
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 * cyears7         =
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 * cteam20         =
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 * stat1label      =
 * stat1value      =
 * stat2label      =
 * stat2value      =
 * stat3label      =
 * stat3value      =
 * stats_league    =
 * bbr             =
 * bbr_wnba        =
 * nbanew          =
 * wnba_profile    =
 * cstats_league1  =
 * cwin1           =
 * closs1          =
 * cstats_league2  =
 * cwin2           =
 * closs2          =
 * cstats_league3  =
 * cwin3           =
 * closs3          =
 * cstats_league4  =
 * cwin4           =
 * closs4          =
 * cstats_league5  =
 * cwin5           =
 * closs5          =
 * HOF             =
 * HOF_player      =
 * HOF_coach       =
 * womensHOF       =
 * FIBA_HOF_player =
 * CBBASKHOF_year  =
 * medal_templates =
 * However, most of these parameters are not autogenerated when inserting the template in the visual editor. Batgirl-Awsomeness (talk) 00:44, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * For the name thing, I was thinking about the Template:Infobox baseball biography, I just mixed up the sport. Batgirl-Awsomeness (talk) 00:47, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't use visual editor. Can you provide an example of a few fields that are not autogenerated? —Bagumba (talk) 04:23, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. I'll just list most of them to make things easier.
 * | embed           =
 * | weight_footnote =
 * | referee_start   =
 * | referee_end     =
 * | years1          =
 * | team1           =
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 * | team2           =
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 * | team3           =
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 * | team13          =
 * | years14         =
 * | team14          =
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 * | team15          =
 * | years16         =
 * | team16          =
 * | years17         =
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 * | years18         =
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 * | years28         =
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 * | years38         =
 * | team38          =
 * | years39         =
 * | team39          =
 * | years40         =
 * | team40          =
 * | cyears1         =
 * | cteam1          =
 * | cyears2         =
 * | cteam2          =
 * | cyears3         =
 * | cteam3          =
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 * | cteam4          =
 * | cyears5         =
 * | cteam5          =
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 * | cteam6          =
 * | cyears7         =
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 * | cyears8         =
 * | cteam8          =
 * | cyears9         =
 * | cteam9          =
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 * | cteam10         =
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 * | cteam11         =
 * | cyears12        =
 * | cteam12         =
 * | cyears13        =
 * | cteam13         =
 * | cyears14        =
 * | cteam14         =
 * | cyears15        =
 * | cteam15         =
 * | cyears16        =
 * | cteam16         =
 * | cyears17        =
 * | cteam17         =
 * | cyears18        =
 * | cteam18         =
 * | cyears19        =
 * | cteam19         =
 * | cyears20        =
 * | cteam20         =
 * | stat1label      =
 * | stat1value      =
 * | stat2label      =
 * | stat2value      =
 * | stat3label      =
 * | stat3value      =
 * | stats_league    =
 * | cstats_league1  =
 * | cwin1           =
 * | closs1          =
 * | cstats_league2  =
 * | cwin2           =
 * | closs2          =
 * | cstats_league3  =
 * | cwin3           =
 * | closs3          =
 * | cstats_league4  =
 * | cwin4           =
 * | closs4          =
 * | cstats_league5  =
 * | cwin5           =
 * | closs5          =
 * | HOF_player      =
 * | HOF_coach       =
 * Batgirl-Awsomeness (talk) 04:48, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 30 May 2023
In two places the template uses Undrafted, creating a line such as "NBA draft	2006 NBA draft / Undrafted", which would be more stylistically correct as "NBA draft	2006 NBA draft / undrafted" without the capitalization.

So, in both places, change Undrafted to undrafted. Dicklyon (talk) 17:46, 30 May 2023 (UTC)


 * .  P.I. Ellsworth &thinsp;, ed.  put'er there 18:40, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Maybe someone will want to discuss. Other cases worth discussing look like: "1958 / Pick: Territorial" and "1960 / Round: 5 / Pick: 39th overall". It's not clear why so many things are capitalized. Dicklyon (talk) 21:45, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This really isn't a recommended slash use per MOS:SLASH either, and it's not like it's a common domain format like a baseball slash line. Perhaps we move to something like "1958: territorial pick", "1960: 5th round, 39th overall pick".—Bagumba (talk) 10:33, 1 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: Notificiation of this discussion was left at WT:BASKETBALL and WT:NBA.—Bagumba (talk) 10:38, 1 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I second Bagumba's suggestion. So far nobody else seems to care.  Someone who is good at templates can give it a try, or compose an edit request. Dicklyon (talk) 04:50, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * one of you want to move this forward? Dicklyon (talk) 04:51, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Done. Slashes removed. —Bagumba (talk) 07:09, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Draft
Is there a reason why this is formatted differently? American football and ice hockey infoboxes don't format the draft this way. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:30, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Native name
Suggesting to include | native_name | native_name_lang options from the mother template, as currently,  is used with the name parameter when a person is from a non-Latin using country. Respublik (talk) 18:58, 18 April 2024 (UTC)