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Copying within Wikipedia requires proper attribution
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Vasudeva Krishna coin
Hi Patliputra. I removed the image you added to Krishna because it cannot be verified as being Krishna. Please provide a direct link to the image on cng coins so that it is clear that the image is that of Krishna. Thanks. --regentspark (comment) 22:09, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've reverted my edit.--regentspark (comment) 13:47, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Structured citations
Hi, check out this video on how to easily cite sources in a structured manner. Use of the sfn template will also help in avoiding duplicates and streamlining the reference section. Adding quotations becomes easier as well. Just an FYI.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 10:06, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm obviously repeating myself here. But please consider switching to structured citations. Just looking at the myriad "Marshall", "A Guide to Sanchi, Marshall", "A Guide to Sanchi, John Marshall", "A Guide to Sanchi, Marshall, John, 1918", "John Marshall, A Guide to Sanchi, 1918", etc. in Sanchi is sending my brain into a tizzy. Then there are the typo'd references such as "Marhall, "A Guide to Sanchi"" and "Epigraphia Indice" … Such occurrences can be drastically reduced through the use of sfn and similar systems. Thanks.—Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 16:46, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll try to do some studying! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 17:01, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, the sfn format is a bit too tricky for me, but I'll go with the Cite template on top of the edit window. It is neat indeed. Thanks for the reminder! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 19:06, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Looking at this edit, it looks like you're filling in the fields by hand and creating extra work for yourself :) All you should need to do in the Cite toolbar dialog is to paste the URL of the book in the URL box and then click on the magnifying glass next to it. This should auto-fill all the available fields. You can do the same thing with the ISBN field.—Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 13:01, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! This is indeed incredibly easier!! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 17:37, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Attribution
Hi, thanks for all your various improvements to so many articles. However, why not simply provide attribution or a note in the edit summary (as explained by above) when you copy text from one article to another? This is just one of many recent additions where you reuse content (from Yaudheyas in this case) without proper attribution. Please also cite sources for the many images of coins that you're adding to article; even cngcoins.com, if applicable, is fine. Cheers.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 08:38, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Hormizd II Kushanshah
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Ways to improve Vishnu nicolo seal
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is sandrocottus chandragupta of maurya dynasty or chandragupta of gupta dynasty?
it seems that you have good knowledge of Magadha empire and Gupta empire.please give some guidance regarding the following. which I want to add in Chandragupta of Gupta dynasty

In the middle of the 19th century MaxMuller for the first time termed the identity of sandrokottas with Chandragupta Maurya as the sheet anchor of Indian history. It is being challenged since its inception. M.troyer was the first to oppose it in the letter to prof.MaxMullar and since then a number of scholars like T.S.Narayana Sastry, N. Jagannatharao , M.Krishnamachariar , Kota Venkatachalam , Pandit Bhagavadatta, D.s Trivedi and other are opposing it in their books and articles. According to Kota Venkatachelam "The greatest mistake that has ever been committed in the field of the Chronology of Ancient India-nay the greatest harm that has ever been done to the cause and progress of the ancient Indian History and Literature-is the so called identification of Sandrocottus, Sandrocyptus, of the Greek writers of Alexander’s history with Chandragupta Maurya, the first king of the Maurya Dynasty, and of the so-called identification of Xandrames or Andramen with Nanda, the father of the said Chandragupta Maurya." "Greek writers mentioned along with sandrocottus two other names Xandrames his predecessor and sandrocyptus his successor. wantonly they ignored the Gupta Chandragupta whose predecessor was chandrasri or chandramas or chandrabija and successor SamudraGupta, who could easily be identified with Xandrames and sandrocyptus.In spite of lack of any correspondence between xandrames and sandracyptus with mahapadmananda and bindusara, the predecessor and successor of Chandragupta Maurya respectively, the latter was declared to be the cotemporary of alexander and relegated to 327 B.C., thus reducing the antiquity of Indian history by more than 12 centuries." --Raghvendra99674010 (talk) 06:24, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

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Alchon
Thanks for the feedback. I am aware that the Huna are often referred as in South Asian contexts as "Huns". However, this is controversial among scholars and will be confusing to many lay readers of Wikipedia, because Huns has a different quite possibly unrelated usage, in regard to the people who entered West Asia/Europe as early as the 3rd century CE, led by Attila.

Following your feedback, I have moved the page to Alchon, which avoids: Grant &#124;  Talk  06:20, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
 * the issue of neologism that you raised;
 * redundancies like "Alchon Huns" and "Alchon Hunas" – i.e. since all of the Alchon were Hunas/Huns, and referred to themselves simply as "Alchon", there is no need for a qualifier (Huns/Hunas) and;
 * the controversial translation of Huna as "Huns".

--- Furthermore:


 * If it is the case that a majority uses a dubious name, it is also clearly a redundancy that has become semi-normalised (in much in the same way as tuna fish or "PIN number").


 * Which is why WP:COMMON does not necessarily require the most common name, especially if that name is demonstrably controversial or incorrect, e.g. it is: misspelled, ungrammatical, is a pleonasm (e.g. a redundancy), a neologism or anachronism, or a similar reason. Hence it's not necessarily relevant that "almost nobody in the literature uses ... Alchons ... without the suffix 'Huns'"


 * "As far as I know, at Wikipedia, we are not supposed to invent new terminology " – indeed, "Alchons" as plural noun is itself a neologism, since there is no evidence for an -s plural in the language of the people in question, i.e. they used Alkhon, Alxon, Alkhan, Alakhana, Walxon, Alchon etc as a genitive or plural noun (on coins etc). So even the -s in Alchons is redundant.


 * Coins are practically the only texts that the Alchon themselves left, so its highly significant as you yourself note that "Alchon ... is only used as an adjective as in "The Alchon coinage".


 * It is not correct to claim that:
 * Alkhon, Alxon, Alkhan, Alakhana, Walxon or Alchon without or the qualifier is exceptionally rare on Google Books. There are at least 673 relevant references to these terms and +huns OR +hunas -alkhon-huns -alxon-huns -alchon-huns -Alkhan-huns -Alakhana-huns -Walxon-huns -alchon-huns. Including authoritative and relevant examples like Michael Maas (ed.) 2014, The Cambridge Companion to the Age of Attila and Daniel T. Potts, 2014, Nomadism in Iran: From Antiquity to the Modern Era
 * A separate search for Alkhons, Alxons, Alkhans, Alakhanas, Walxons or Alchons +huns OR +hunas -alkhon-huns -alxon-huns -alchon-huns -Alkhan-huns -Alakhana-huns -Walxon-huns -alchon-huns brought up up 166 hits.

Any other, more substantial objections?

Grant &#124;  Talk  12:35, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Heliodorus Pillar
Do you have any special problem with the name Krishna? 119.42.159.36 (talk) 15:53, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * We have to stick with what the sources say (and what Heliodorus says on his pillar...). And anyone clicking Vasudeva will know what the relationship with Krishna is anyway. Cheers पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 16:17, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Seems like you are trying so hard with your biased prejudised to deemphasize the connection of Heliodorus pillar with Vaishnavism. Vaishnavism is a living tradition and any naive Hindu will say unambiguously that Vasudeva is Krishna. Sanjoydey33 (talk) 15:47, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

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Multiple images
Welcome back! But I have to say you are a terrible over-user of this format. Barabar Caves is now much better illustrated, but very untidily. Single or double row mini-galleries are greatly preferable to multiple images in nearly all cases. Johnbod (talk) 16:52, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks @Johnbod for the welcome! I do appreciate! I am not so sure what you have in mind for images, so please do not hesitate to try your prefered format. पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 16:56, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

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 * @ Razer Thank you!! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 17:37, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Ways to improve Kunala Stupa
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Text-source integrity
With this edit you added a source to an unsourced quote. When I checked the source, I noted that the Hultzsch translation does not match the quote. This quote may, or may not be a faithful reproduction of a reliable academic source. Adding a source that does not match the quote does not improve this encyclopedia. Please see MOS:QUOTES for more info. JimRenge (talk) 08:56, 12 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you. The reference is correct, but you are right the previous translation in the article was a bit off. I'm correcting according to the source. Thanks! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 09:06, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I checked the source because the Ashoka inscription is the main argument of the "Buddha was born in Nepal" campaign. The message of the inscription is unambiguous: Ashoka and his advisors believed that Gautama Buddha was born in Lumbini. Enthusiastic supporters of this campaign have been involved in disruptive editing on the Gautama Buddha page for some years. The article is now indefinitely protected. I think it is a good idea to prevent the manipulation of historical inscriptions/sources by campaigners. JimRenge (talk) 11:33, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! (and thanks for correcting a sentence that had escaped me!) पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 11:53, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your work on Ashokan Edicts articles! I have been adding definitions for Ashokan Prakrit words on Wiktionary and your articles are very helpful. AryamanA (talk, contribs) 02:25, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Glad it helps!! And congratulations for your titanic work on Wikitionary! Do you know how to make links to your Wikitionary pages from Wikipedia articles? I tried 𑀢𑀼𑀭𑀫𑀸𑀬 for Tulumaya (Ptolemy), but it doesn't seem to work... पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 04:57, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You spelled "Wiktionary" (not "Wikitionary") incorrectly, that's all :) It should be 𑀢𑀼𑀭𑀫𑀸𑀬 or just 𑀢𑀼𑀭𑀫𑀸𑀬 . AryamanA (talk, contribs) 21:13, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, it works!! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 04:25, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * By the way, I have another question for you. The name "Ashoka" is written in the Maski edict as attached. To me this should be pronounced Asoka, rather than Ashoka. Can you confirm? If so, would you happen to known where the "sh" pronounciation as in the English transliteration "Ashoka" comes from? It is also spelled Asoka in this 1st-3rd century CE inscription. पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 04:38, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * The name was probably re-Sanskritized at some point; perhaps the first documents confirming his identity were in Sanskrit, and were discovered before his edicts. ś → s is a regular development from Sanskrit to Ashokan Prakrit. AryamanA (talk, contribs) 14:33, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you!पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 15:53, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

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Image edits on Phocas
Hey पाटलिपुत्र,

I'm here to inform you why I rolled back your edit on Phocas, since I failed to do so in the Rollback itself. Generally artistic renderings, be it statues, paintings, mosaics, drawings, etc, are preferred to raw coins, as the coins are often damaged or show less detail. Thanks. Iazyges  Consermonor   Opus meum  20:42, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 20:56, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

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Some bubble tea for you!

 * Thank you!! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 08:19, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Talkback
You can alse see WP:Archive for help on talk page archiving.  D Big X ray  16:58, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

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A pie for you!
Thank you!!! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 10:42, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

September 2018
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 * Thank you!! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 16:10, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Kushan Empire
Per this edit, please see my comment on the talk page. --Kansas Bear (talk) 06:29, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Responded on the article talk page.पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 06:35, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Lygdamids
Hi, and thanks for starting the articles on the Lygdamids! One question, though: Pisindelis left his throne circa 452-449 BCE, but his son Lygdamis II died in 454 BCE, bringing the dynasty to an end? The dates don't add up. Constantine  ✍  09:52, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I haven't sorted out yet the precise, exact dates according to most sources. Please correct if you can sort it out!.. पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 09:58, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Achaemenid Satraps of Lydia
Hello पाटलिपुत्र, your edits are very appreciated on this site. However, there is a small issue, Template:Satraps of Lydia fills out too much unnecessary space. Could you perhaps make it like traditional templates a la Category:Ruler navigational boxes? --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:53, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for making the change. पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 14:13, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy New Year, पाटलिपुत्र!


Happy New Year! पाटलिपुत्र, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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Persepolis
Hi, thank you for adding so many valuable pictures/images to Wikipedia. Really great. I was wondering; do you also have images/drawings/etc. of the destruction of Persepolis at your disposal? - LouisAragon (talk) 19:56, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Nothing at this moment on the destruction of Persopolis, but I will keep my eyes open. पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 21:05, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * We should probably rename these three files;
 * "Xerxes tomb Ionian with petasos" ---> "Xerxes I tomb Ionian with petasos or kausia"
 * "Xerxes I tomb Ionian with petasos soldier circa 480 BCE" ---> "Xerxes I tomb Ionian with petasos or kausia soldier circa 480 BCE"
 * "Xerxes I tomb Ionian with petasos soldier circa 480 BCE cleaned up" ---> "Xerxes I tomb Ionian with petasos or kausia soldier circa 480 BCE cleaned up"
 * Thoughts? - LouisAragon (talk) 02:56, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Made renaming requests. Thanks! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 06:01, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

LinuxDude (talk) 23:03, 15 January 2019 (UTC) I don't know how you tilted your table of contents but it's pretty cool. In any event please don't revert my edits to the Behistun article. Herodotus didn't know that same people were called one thing in Assyrian and another thing in Babylonian. Three separate Assyrian scholars all noted (at least 100 years ago) that the one people were called by two names. They were Sayce, Edwin Norris and Rawlinson. I went back to the source cuneiform and confirmed that Norris and Rawlinson were correct and included links to these references so people could see for themself. Accordingly when you revert you restore the Herodotus view and not the view of later Assyriologist. If you have someone who has shown Norris, Rawlinson and Sayce wrong - fine, revert. If not please let my edits stand as it reflects views more current than the ancient Greek view you restore.

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you!! Very much appreciated!! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 05:46, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Frataraka and kings of Persis
From my understanding the Kings of Persis held the title of Frataraka, and there wasn't any specific 'Frataraka dynasty' that was different from that of the Kings of Persis. Shouldn't Kings of Persis be kept in the Template:History of Iran with Frataraka removed then? --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:04, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi HistoryofIran! From what I have seen, the Fratarakas were not Kings: they did not claim to be kings on their coins (whereas the Kings of Persis did), and were probably some local religious rulers or governors under the Seleucids. Conversely, the Kings of Persis were not Fratarakas, only their successors: they claimed the title of Kings, and were actually sub-Kings of the Parthian Kings for the most part. I really wouldn't mind though if you prefer to remove the Fratarakas from the Template:History of Iran, since they do not seem to have been full-fledged rulers. Up to you! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 15:12, 25 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Btw, there's a lot of new stuff regarding the Kings of Persis/Frataraka here --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:19, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks!! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 20:25, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Btw, Iranica has a bad habit of spelling every name of its articles in a New Persian form, which is often the least used version of the name. A good example is Vahbarz, who is in reality better known as Wahbarz (such as in the source I just linked). I might do some article name moves here and there if you don't have any objection to that. --HistoryofIran (talk) 21:05, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Fine with me पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 21:07, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Been reading about the Kings of Persis and their use of the title of Frataraka, and there doesn't seem to be any 'Frataraka dynasty'. Furthermore, the early kings of Persis are also included with the rest of the later kings as belonging to the line of Kings of Persis in both Iranica and Shayegans work (btw already under Wahbarz the kingdom of Persis declared independence per Shayegan). I'm gonna try to expand Wahbarz to GA and then I'll see what I can do at the Kings of Persis and Frataraka articles. --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:01, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The Fratarakas and Kings of Persis are treated separately by both Shayegan (who separates "early rulers of Persis" in "two groups" p.168-, with the Fratarakas forming the first group or four or five rulers) and Encyclopedia Iranica (which has two clear separate articles: Frataraka and Kings of Persis). Iranica puts them together in one list under the title "Dynast of Persis", not "Kings of Persis", in TABLE 1. Shayegan lists them under the title "Rulers of Persis", not "Kings" in his Table 3 p.179. As known from their coinage, the Fratrakas did not have the title of Kings, and the later Kings (who had the title mlk on their coins) conversely did not have the title of Fratrakas, with one or two tansitional rulers between. Appart from their titles, they all had various levels of independence, either from the Seleucids or the Parthians. The expression "Frataraka dynasty" also seems quite current     . Good luck with the GA for Wahbarz! (Wahbarz wasn't King though, Shayegan only lists him as a Frataraka "early ruler of Persis", and he also clearly writes p.177 that "he refrained from adopting the royal title". This will have to be corrected) पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 06:38, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Dynasts/Rulers/Kings, same same. What I'm trying to say is that they're listed as ruling the same kingdom. There weren't two separate entities in Persis during this period as Wikipedia currently lists it. --HistoryofIran (talk) 12:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Not "same same" at all, there is a big difference. A ruler, "someone who rules" can be many things, including satraps for example. A dynast is "a member of a powerful family, especially a hereditary ruler", but not necessarily a king. Shayegan clearly says that Wahbraz "refrained from adopting the royal title", so there is no way he can be referred to as "King", or even as a member of the "Kings of Persis". From what I've seen, reputable sources don't present him as a "King" or a "King of Persis", only a ruler or a dynast: simply, he was a Frataraka (sub-satrap) ruler of Persis. He ruled a region or a province, not a kingdom. Fratarakas and Kings of Persis clearly form two sets of rulers, following one another chronologically, per the above references. Treating them separatly is what Encyclopedia Iranica does with two separate articles (Frataraka, Kings of Persis) as well as Shayegan. Encyclopedia Iranica clearly defines the Kings of Persis as "the Persian dynasts who between the 2nd century BCE and 3rd century CE ruled as Parthian representatives in Persis": this has nothing to do with the Fratarakas, who date to well before the Parthian expansion. Looking forward to a great encyclopedic article on Wahbarz. पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 13:08, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

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Indian Beads
Hello, thank you for the additions on the Indian beads in Egypt. However, there are several Etched beads in the Petrie Museum. The Middle Kingdom ones are here: []. The one you depicted is much later. Check also the Museum database: http://petriecat.museums.ucl.ac.uk/search.aspx best wishes from LDN — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:7E05:9A00:54B0:B721:2E4C:5862 (talk) 15:27, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
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Narmer
Thanks for your edits on Narmer, especially the edit that fixed the format of the caption on the photo of the Narmer Palette. I tried and tried to get that result, but couldn't.Heagy1 (talk) 20:31, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome! पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 05:45, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Wish
Hello. Help add for article Maureen Wroblewitz. Thanks you. 27.74.247.140 (talk) 08:35, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Persian cylinder
Thanks for your valuable adds on Persian king and the defeated enemies. Your new sources make me wonder how the cylinder was misattributed to Cambyses II for the first time (a seemingly wrong information that unfortunately spreaded all across the web) rather than the plethora of other more suitable Achaemenid rulers suggested by academics. Anyway, thanks again. Khruner (talk) 10:20, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree, this is rather weird. Thanks again for identifying this issue!! Best पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 10:40, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Again on this seal: given that the more-or-less same scene is depicted on more than one seal, I thought that maybe it would be better to switch the article subject from the specific St. Petersburg seal to the scene itself (the title would remain the same). Your thought? Khruner (talk) 19:55, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Sounds fine to me! Best पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 08:17, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

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Kausambi wall date
The date on the picture caption is wrong, sources clearly mention wall construction and revetment date of 1025-955 BC, while another source mentions 700 BC for period I defensive wall construction which is shown in the picture hence 1025-700 BC caption. 175.145.218.221 (talk) 12:11, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

hoax
In Unicode, Sho is after Omega and Sampi, not after Sigma. Placing of Sho after Sigma as in File:Bactrian_alphabet.jpg is w:en:WP:OR, see this: https://unicode.org/Public/UCA/latest/allkeys.txt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.72.0.134 (talk) 15:25, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

The lead summarizes; it contains no unique info
Thanks for your correction of the age of the Bhimbetka rock art at Indian painting, Indian art, and Cave paintings in India. Factually, it's fine; but there was a problem of incorrect placement of the content into the Lead of these articles, instead of into the body, where they belonged.

You've been around for some years, so no template, but you need to ensure that your article edits conform to the purpose and function of the Lead, which is to introduce and summarize the article. The lead should not contain unique information. Per MOS:LEADNO: "Significant information should not appear in the lead if it is not covered in the remainder of the article." And that, in turn, implies the proper sequencing of adding new content to articles, namely: "first change the body, then update the lead to summarize the body", per WP:LEADFOLLOWSBODY.

What you're not supposed to do, is add brand new information to the lead of an article, that isn't already covered in detail in the body. Unfortunately, you did that three times recently, in connection with your updates to the age of the Bhimbetka paintings, at Indian painting (diff ), at Indian art (diff ) , and Cave paintings in India (diff ). I have no quibble with your content correction but none of this should have been added to the lead; rather, you need to update the body first, and then briefly summarize it in the lead, afterwards. Also, since the body will already contain all the proper reference citations, there is no need to add references to the Lead, since it's merely summarizing the already sourced detail in the body; at least, it is, if the person who added the content to the body observed the WP:Verifiability policy, and added the required sources. (Also, adding five refs when one solid one will do, is WP:OVERCITE.)

I've fixed the first and last of these cases up for you, so you don't have to do anything for those two. However, I sure hope you're not doing the same thing on other articles, as you did on these three. If you are, then please stop. For those articles which may now be out of sync with guidelines on the lead, please consider editing them to move your unique content out of the lead and into the body, and then just briefly summarize it in the lead; no refs needed. Thanks, and happy editing! Mathglot (talk) 00:15, 26 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks. पाटलिपुत्र Pat   (talk) 04:31, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Subject nations on Darius's statue from Egypt
Hi would you be willing to upload the rest of the subject nations from Darius's Egyptian statue? They can be used very well on Wiki. Not sure how you managed to locate the precise hieroglyphs and proper transliterations (e.g. ), but a great job nevertheless. - LouisAragon (talk) 21:08, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Are there some specific countries you would be interested in? पाटलिपुत्र Pat   (talk) 04:25, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the very late response, been mad busy. If you are still willing to do it, I'd really appreciate having Cappadocia, Lydia, Armenia, Egypt, Cyrenaica, Persis, Media, Chorasmia, Kush, Arabia, and Thrace! - LouisAragon (talk) 18:53, 29 October 2019 (UTC)


 * Welcome back! I've just uploaded the image in Commons Category:Statue of Darius I. Reading the hieroglyphs in these inscriptions is pretty easy as the characters used are just the Egyptian phonetic syllabary (see Transliteration of Ancient Egyptian)... you can even copy and paste the characters is you need to write a proper transliteration. Have fun! पाटलिपुत्र Pat   (talk) 19:24, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Copper cast coin from Kausambi
you claim for false dating is baseless, try to read the links provided in support of the images which has been extracted directly from the source itself, since you are making accusations of false dating im attaching the text from the source itself here;

Excavations At Kausambi (1957-59) Coins and seals

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.535975/page/n43

what is the date mentioned for the square copper cast coin in this document? 168.211.113.244 (talk) 05:51, 5 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi 168.211.113.244. You are replacing proper images of coins from 150 BC-100 CE, and changing them with very poor quality and poorly sourced images claiming "9th century BC" in their caption . That's clearly not an improvement. The text above only says "early centuries of the first millennium B. C." without being more precise. Your other source actually shows that the IIA coins are from a period between 900 BC to 0 BC (the long bar in the graph), which is certainly quite vague and does not allow you to choose selectively the 900 BC date only. Furthermore the poor quality photograph you are using File:Kausambi coin 9th Century BC.png is seemingly copyrighted and has already been nominated for deletion. पाटलिपुत्र  Pat   (talk) 06:18, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * your source for 150 BC-100 CE is dubious and unreliable, which is based on a private coin auctioning website and not an academic document, your claim for copyright is also false, since the copyright is from 1960 which has already expired, you assertion on IIA coins between 900 BC to 0 BC (the long bar in the graph) which is certainly quite vague and does not allow you to choose selectively the 900 BC date only is explained by the text which places the squared copper cast coins in the early centuries of the first millennium BC and the table which also places the coin below in the 9th century BC. 168.211.113.244 (talk) 06:49, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Kindly Don't change without knowing about tamil brahmi
If you having any proof or article plz mentioned it to us,i will send you lots of proof. Kkkraj (talk) 07:42, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You just need to provide reputable sources for your claims. पाटलिपुत्र Pat   (talk) 08:02, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Carbon dating proves Adichanallur relics from Tamil Nadu are from 905 to 696 BC | The News Minute - https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/carbon-dating-proves-adichanallur-relics-905-696-bc-madras-hc-slams-asi-99557 Kkkraj (talk) 08:05, 5 September 2019 (UTC)


 * You need reputable academic sources, not just newspaper articles, which make this kind of claims all the time. Furthermore, you are visibly infringing copyrights by uploading the lead image from https://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/history-and-culture/Tamil-Brahmi-potsherds-found-at-urn-burial-site/article16483663.ece Please stop this if you want to avoid being banned. पाटलिपुत्र Pat   (talk) 08:11, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Adichanallur http://www.archaeologyindia.in/articles/adichanallur/ Kkkraj (talk) 08:37, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

May be central government have not official announced it yet,some politically behind it,but it will be done soon.then i will definitely changing it, kindly read out to those above articles Kkkraj (talk) 08:42, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Of the 1,00,000 (100,000) odd inscriptions found by the Archaeological Survey of India, about 60,000 were in Tamil Nadu, of these 60,000 inscriptions, only about 5 per cent were in other languages such as Telugu, Kannada, Sanskrit and Marathi, the rest were in Tamil. Over 25,000 Kannada inscriptions were unearthed in Karnataka, though an in depth study of many of these is yet to be conducted according to Hampi Kannada University Sociology department Head and Researcher Devara Kondareddy. Kkkraj (talk) 09:27, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

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Maues King of Taxila: An Indo-Greek Kingdom with a Saka King
Do you have access to JSTOR? There is a source which you may find interesting If not, I can always email it to you if you want. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:13, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Can you mail it to me? पाटलिपुत्र  Pat   (talk) 14:19, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. You should apply for access to JSTOR through Wikipedia, I'm sure your request will be accepted. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:22, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Who should I contact for JSTOR access? पाटलिपुत्र Pat   (talk) 14:25, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, I can't remember, lol. I assume the editors at would know. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:46, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Vishnu Nicolo Seal
I've completely failed to find this on the BM online database, which is massive, but often quirky to search. Any ideas? Johnbod (talk) 19:48, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Here, but I could not find it through regular search as well... पाटलिपुत्र Pat   (talk) 20:00, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Many thanks! I've given their opinion prominence, as no doubt the most up-to-date. Johnbod (talk) 18:38, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Did you know nominations/Gupta art
Done this, btw. Of course other hooks are possible. 15:44, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Wonderful!!! Thank you!! पाटलिपुत्र Pat   (talk) 16:01, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

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This was clumsy of me. Thank you for spotting and fixing it so quickly! –&#8239;Joe (talk) 14:54, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem Joe Roe! Thanks for your contributions! पाटलिपुत्र Pat   (talk) 15:03, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Category:Mathura art
Newly set-up. Anything to add? Johnbod (talk) 09:03, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Great! I've added the Vasu Doorjamb Inscription, which although mainly about the inscription also describes the artistic aspects of the artefact. Please revert if necessary. पाटलिपुत्र Pat   (talk) 09:22, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

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From the Sasanians to the Huns New Numismatic Evidence from the Hindu Kush
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DYK for Gupta art
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 * Simuka ([//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dablinks.py/Simuka check to confirm] | [//dispenser.info.tm/~dispenser/cgi-bin/dab_solver.py/Simuka?client=notify fix with Dab solver])
 * added a link pointing to Andhra

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