User talk:7&6=thirteen/Archive 12

Check this out
Knowing your interest into contributing (rather than deleting) I suggest you to look at the situation around The National Memo article (check the edits history and the Talk page) as an example of Wikipedia inherent bureaucracy and limited common sense. I haven't seen such a blatant example of biased attitude to obviously notable things. You gonna love it, lol. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 18:46, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Will look into it. Thanks.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 23:34, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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 * 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 03:59, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Belated best wishes for a happy 2018
== BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 13:14, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Loved the picture. Thanks.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 13:29, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi 7&6=thirteen, thanks for the torte, it tastes good with coffee. Woodlot (talk) 14:10, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Apologies for the edit conflicts (in Tajemnica Statuetki)
But I'm going to sleep now so you don't have to worry about them anymore. Keep up the great work!! :D--Coin945 (talk) 14:12, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No apologies necessary. We were tugboats working in tandem, and sometimes the channel gets a little narrow and we bump into one another.  No worries.  Sleep tight.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 21:42, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Good work, both of you. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:42, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd rather light a candle than curse the darkness. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:44, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
 * So poetic. ^_^ --Coin945 (talk) 23:48, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

January 2018
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Lucca (dog). Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.The consensus on the talk page is to find a better source or not have the data at all. <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">&mdash; <big style="color:#ffa439">Coffee //  have a ☕️ //  beans  // 14:03, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
 * Received your template. Apparently you overlooked the discussion on the article talk page.  WP:BRD  It is you who is WP:Edit warring not me.  Template yourself.  Join us on the talk page.  We can arrive at a consensus, and there will be no edit war.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:12, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Lucca (dog) resurrected! Or at least back from the dead per Talk:Lucca (dog).  And you can eliminate reference to LuccaK458 and the death notice (which in its totality is reliable on this issue), but eliminating the text and the irrefutable fact of death won't resurrect the dog.   And the triumph of rules over sanity only makes this article (and the encyclopaedia) less accurate.   And article is now free of reliable Facebook source per consensus that all Facebook pages are unreliable.   Moving on ... <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 13:00, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikilove

 * And thank you. This too shall pass.  16:34, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

William Foster Nye
I tried to post a link to an old (2015) verb of that article for you at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, but Fram deleted my whole post as "copy vio." Then he rushed over to my Talk page to suggest I had done it deliberately! Wow. I've now restored my post. But perhaps you could request a copy from Fram to copy edit and restore. I was trying to suggest that a claim of not-0nitable was unlikely. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:30, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Discussion here <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:08, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The transparency here reminds me of Congressman Nunes's  committee's release of their report.  Rigged game. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:43, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Long face syndrome
Hello! Your submission of Long face syndrome at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 01:24, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Replied several times. New hooks added. Sigh. 15:31, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

WP:sandbox
Do you have it watchlisted? — <span class="monospaced" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran (talk)  01:55, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * User:usernamekiran Yes, but I also got your ping. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 02:21, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Houdini Museum of New York
Gatoclass (talk) 12:12, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

I Shot the Sheriff
I missed ever interacting with User:Coffee for my first ten years here. Then Coffee came here, templated me for a nonexistent edit war, and I responded. The underlying kerfuffle was at Lucca (dog) and dribbled over here. Now I was just banned from ever casting my shadow on that page (there, but more directly Coffee's talk page). With a threat of adverse Administrative action. I got a notice of it; and then the page just disappeared.<BR> I was awarded a "badge of honor", which included a collection of experienced editors who are not to post on Coffee's talk page. I won't do it, even as the ban was deleted. These actions should be revealed for all to see. Not "rug-sized." Got better and more constructive ways to waste my time. I will stay off the coffee plantation, imbibe decaf only, and avoid further conflict to the best of my ability. I hope we all can can the bullshit and build a better Encyclopædia together. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:00, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Can can?? What a load of old knickers. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:05, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I am staying out of this. Includes this diff to This very page.  Apparently we are not only supposed to stay off his talk page, but we are to be silenced everywhere.  The notice didn't say that.  YGBSM.   21:08, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * To paraphrase The Soup Nazi, No pings for you. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:23, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I can practically hear Peter Noone .... "No pings today, my admin’s gone away. The Talk page stands forlorn, a symbol of the dawn." Martinevans123 (talk) 15:43, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * This will put you on the bad list. They see all.  They know all. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:48, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I feel a bit sick already. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:52, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * CGV. wow.  User:DHeyward I fear is 'collateral damage' from this debacle.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:07, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * That is sad about DHeyward. By the way YGBSM that diff is out of date, the latest version includes User:Martinevans123's quips in this section .Smeat75 (talk) 00:12, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * "Your name vill also go on zee list." Martinevans123 (talk) 08:38, 1 February 2018 (UTC) Maybe we should send a subtle hint?
 * Das ist Verboten.
 * I just want it to be recalled that I am #1 on that list. Perhaps it is alphabetical?  The Shadow may know ["The weed of crime bears bitter fruit! Crime does not pay...The Shadow knows!"], but only the Coffee grinder knows for sure.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 13:04, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's not easy to judge, is it, when things are so hidden? Is this the sort of petulant behavior one might expect of a bored teenager? But of a fully fledged Administrator?? With an apparently un-modulated positive feedback loop in operation, it seems like that secret list may soon get very big indeed. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:28, 1 February 2018 (UTC) p.s. the horrendous lag in my own system means that I will correct spelling mistakes only within hours, or even days.

If he is really trying to hide that list, he isn't doing a very good job. And it is certainly no longer a secret.Smeat75 (talk) 14:30, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hiding that list isn't the only thing he's bad at!, I've got the popcorn on standby so it's just gonna be like another day at the cinema .... only better!. – Davey 2010 Talk 14:58, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds somewhat ominous. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:03, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * The Gathering Storm? Where is my Fallout shelter?  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:30, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: available only for editors in Canada. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:42, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Works on so many levels. Fortunately, I live a stone's throw away from the border.  Unfortunately too, I am close enough for ICE to randomly stop me (they have full legal authority to stop without probable cause within 100 miles of the border – and I'm way closer than that), and am not a Canadian.  So I guess I can't get into the club.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:51, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, you know what they say... The Frappuccino Man Cometh. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:00, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Reminds one of Samantha Bee's comment on the latest Nunes debacle. “It’s like a turducken of treason,” said Bee. “Tastes bitter, like the ashes of our democracy.”   <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:21, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * And the first target is User:Davey2010 . As the four of us are here, perhaps we can huddle up and protect each other.Smeat75 (talk) 18:06, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Mr. Starbucks says he has "dewatched" their talk pages. Yeah, right.  Even if I could, I won't put window blinds up on my talk page. So look at your own peril. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:16, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Nevertheless, the Night Stalker continues ... <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:20, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Just to note that quote was me - I said I'll dewatch his pages .... which I have ... I commented this morning and that was it haven't checked his talkpage since nor do I have any plans to do so. Think I might turn the laptop off and be a tree for a few months. – Davey 2010 Talk 18:24, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for any misattribution or misidentification. It was inadvertent. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:48, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Seems the message has finally sunk in. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:36, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Adminitis Administrative PTSD, shell shock and Occupational burnout. Long term rides in the saddle can induce saddle sores.  And that is not an attack on anyone.  Something to think about.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 19:55, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * He accused me of engaging in canvassing and meatpuppetry in the conversation in this section, what a joke.Smeat75 (talk) 20:18, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I guess one can only imagine what's going to go in the "personal file". Martinevans123 (talk) 20:27, 1 February 2018 (UTC) p.s. just to be clear here, I'm not accusing anyone of being Jewish
 * We were not hard to find. We were on his list.  I didn't keep a copy, although of course the budding examples just grew and grew.  Like Topsy or the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:47, 1 February 2018 (UTC))

Ilona Durigo
Thank you for the YouTube list for Ilona Durigo, but - for me, they are all not available. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:58, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * That is an unfortunate byproduct of having a worldwide encyclopaedia. Can't make the countries play by the same rules.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:30, 31 January 2018 (UTC) 15:29, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Fiji water
Deletionists are at it again. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:11, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Userboxes
Hi 7&6=thirteen! I am all done creating my user page. Please come check out what I have done! Colman2000 (talk) 21:21, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Nicely done! Looks like you've got a nice balance of stuff.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 22:45, 4 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Do you have some similarities of what I have posted on my user page? Colman2000 (talk) 22:57, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * there is no right way or wrong way to do this. It's a matter of taste, art, communication.  What do you want the people who chance onto your WP:User page to pick up?  And how do you want them to react?  It is advertising, politics and philosophy all rolled into one.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 23:02, 4 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Pretty cool! Thanks for the advice! What I was asking you above is with what I have on my user page, do you have some of the same favorites and same things I have on my user page that you like to do, too? Do you like watching some of the same TV shows I have on my user page that I like? That was what the comment I wrote above meant. Also, I am interested in law, because, heck, you're a lawyer! You can actually see that I am training myself to become a cop, and I am interested in law. Colman2000 (talk) 23:10, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I often work with the police and teachers. Both have very tough jobs.  I also spend lots of time in Indiana and Ohio.  23:19, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Really? I have always wanted to go to Ohio! I agree that the police and teachers have tough jobs, but I know I can do it! I am not doubting myself. Colman2000 (talk) 19:46, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Ship shape

 * Thank you very much. Your DYK is deserved, and hopefully will run with that great picture.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:12, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

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Please comment on proposed edits
Hi. Knowing your strong common sense and goodwill, I kindly ask you to look at my recent proposed edits to The National Memo article and comment on them here. They are reasonable and neutral, but I can't persuade the reviewing editor to include them into the article. Thank you. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 17:52, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I put back "Its editorial stance is predominantly from a left-wing point of view." Hope that helps.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:08, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank for this little help. However, this is not right and misleads the reader. Website is liberal and progressive. Please check my proposed edits at the talk page (last post). This description is properly referenced. Adweek article says "new progressive email newsletter" and "That pulled together a large list of progressives, liberals, and Democrats across the country, who are very interested in political issues". So left-wing is a clear overstatement (and it is not supported by trusted sources). I think you better express your point of view at the talk page rather than by editing the article (it got a bit "toxic", I suppose) :) -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 18:23, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not a reader (that I recall) of the Naional Memo. So I am no better than the sources.  18:33, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Then you should probably revert your edit, lol. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 22:10, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Your edit to the "National memo" article
Please revert your edit to The National Memo article. Left-wing position is not well supported by trusted sources. Thank you. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 09:20, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Can't undo it due to conflicting edits. I am not opposed to whatever the consensus is on the article talk page.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 11:55, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

American Outdoor Brands Corporation: Revision history
Hello - I appreciate your handling my edits to the Smith & Wesson page via the proper mechanisms. I am not a skilled wikipedian nor do I have time to fight a fight on wikipedia to make sure good information is provided rather than just corporate propoganda. The same user who removed my edits to Smith & Wesson also removed my edits to American Outdoor Brands Corporation: Revision history. It'd be amazing if you could take a look and do as you judge best. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sipos111 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Smith & Wesson edits
BTW - just wanted to point out that the user who edited my S&W edits is far from neutral when it comes to the content they are editing (as am I, clearly). https://lightbreather.com/wikipedia-pro-gun-eds-niteshift36-and-springee-c2accb697911

Take care! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sipos111 (talk • contribs) 19:56, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Long face syndrome
Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

St. David's Day
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:beige; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks"> The leek is one of the national emblems of Wales, worn along with the daffodil (in Welsh, the daffodil is known as "Peter's leek", Cenhinen Bedr) on St. David's Day. According to one legend, King Cadwaladr of Gwynedd ordered his soldiers to identify themselves by wearing the vegetable on their helmets in an ancient battle against the Saxons that took place in a leek field. Cheers!&#8209; &#8209; Gareth Griffith&#8209;Jones&#160;The Welsh Buzzard &#8209; &#8209; 15:55, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you Gareth Griffith&#8209;Jones. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:46, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Please share your point of view
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Precious three years!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Gerda Arendt Thank you. It is nice to be noticed, especially by you.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:22, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Made my day, again ;) - too much blackness on my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:26, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

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Edit to the El Faro page
Thank you for considering and acting upon my amendment to the El Faro page to remove the link to the April 2018 Vanity Fair article about the ship's sinking. However, I'd further ask that you remove the link from the references - the information you attribute to that article can be better sourced with the NTSB report 'Sinking of US Cargo Vessel SS El Faro, Atlantic Ocean, Northeast of Acklins and Crooked Island, Bahamas, October 1, 2015', section 2.1 Bell207354 (talk) 20:04, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Bell207354 I understand your reasoning. Yes, there are other sources.  Even better ones.  But this article covers it for nontechnically oriented readers.  Having redundant sources is not a hindrance to our readers; they are not fungible, like peas in a pod.  So I have considered your request, but we will have to agree to disagree.  It should stay.  Best regards.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:58, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I see your point. In that case, please could you switch the reference to the below article from USA Today, which 1) should address the readability issue, 2) covers the same points and 3) is also free from the inaccuracies that are included in the Vanity Fair article? I agree that multiple, even overlapping sources is no bad thing, but I do have a problem with poor sources being given undue credibility by being listed alongside other, more valid ones. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/12/12/el-faro-ntsb-investigation/944537001/

Bell207354 (talk) 12:08, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The Vanity Fair article is derived from the transcripts of the voice recordings. So your point about deleting it as unreliable makes no sense.  Indeed, it seems to be narrowly and specifically tailored around the transcript, with little embellishment.  The deductions they make are supported by the words they quote.
 * If you want to add other sources, you are free to do so as far as I am concerned. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:39, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your warm welcome. Though I have a fair idea of how to contribute and where to look for help, I will let you know in case I need some help from you. Thanks again. Iammayurgupta (talk) 11:22, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Iammayurgupta Cheers. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 11:25, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks!
I appreciate the welcome, and your kind offer to help. HockeyCowboy (talk) 06:42, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * HockeyCowboy You are welcome. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 10:47, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Drift whale
Thanks again for your help in removing the copyvio notice. (And with the article itself - but I have more work to do.) I see that you left a note for the editor who added it in the first place. Could I ask you to sign that? Otherwise it might look as if I were the one who had removed the notice. Thanks! Carbon Caryatid (talk) 01:33, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ You are welcome. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:15, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Turns out that removing that template was more complex than either of us had thought, but I hope that's an end to the matter. I want to focus on the article, and I thank you for your help with that. I particularly appreciate your consolidation of the references. I know this is a skill I need to improve: usually I put the whole citation in, which can grow ungainly. Could you offer any advice on a simple way through the thicket of Wiki-rules? Carbon Caryatid (talk) 13:33, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Got the template taken care of. Had to find an admin that was interested and disposed.
 * Carbon Caryatid Try to learn to use Citation templates.  And learn to use WP:SFN.  See e.g., Frank Fowler Loomis for an example.  Or Scallop.  That should get you started.  It's a building process, so you should not let it put you off your editing.  Rome wasn't built in a day.  User: Doug Coldwell is somebody to emulate. If you want more guidance, please let me know.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 14:43, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm used to using the citation templates. SFN is new to me. I'll see how it goes. Carbon Caryatid (talk) 17:11, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

So much to learn .... But you can get there. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:13, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Carbon Caryatid Be are of WP:CITEVAR.  Some folks just don't want to change ... Don't want to get into a fight over nothing important.  I thought Bluebuck was an article that turned out well, and includes almost everything I know about citations, templates and links.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 14:13, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Clear sandbox
You do know that you don't need to manually clear the sandbox. It's done automatically, --<i style="font-family: Kristen ITC; color: Green;">Tyw7</i> (☎ Contact me! •  Contributions ) 09:46, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes.  Thanks.   <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:19, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

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Paid editing - new policy
 * Now that ACTRIAL is ACREQ, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. There is a new global WMF policy that requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

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DYK nomination of Drift whale
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DYK nomination of Drift whale
Hello! Your submission of Drift whale at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:57, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew Replied on the nomination page.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:56, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

NPP Backlog Elimination Drive
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We can see the light at the end of the tunnel: there are currently 2900 unreviewed articles, and 4000 unreviewed redirects.

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DYK for Drift whale
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 10,640 Views <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:51, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

Hey
Could you perhaps change some sourcing in the NSU article nominated at ITN. Source 1 is a far right blog and hence totally unacceptable. The source to the names of the accused in the lead can be changed to, for example, this. The list of charges for the other defendants, also in the lead, can be sourced to this. Both should be totally reliable. I just don't want to mess anything up and usually do have trouble with displaying everything correct haha. Sorry to bother anyway. 31.150.101.31 (talk) 17:05, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

How to tell if there are sharks in the water
Experts Agree: This South Carolina Man’s Way of Telling If There’s a Shark in the Water Is 100% Accurate <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 13:02, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Quid pro quo



 * Thank you User:Sca. They look delicious. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:57, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers. Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.
 * June backlog drive


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 * New features are shortly going to be added to the Special:NewPagesFeed which include a list of drafts for review, OTRS flags for COPYVIO, and more granular filter preferences. More details can be found at this page.
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 * Current reviewers who have had the flag for longer than 6 months but have not used the permissions since they were granted will have the flag removed, but may still request to have it granted again in the future, subject to the same probationary period, if they wish to become an active reviewer.


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Here's one for you...
Ever been to Split Rock Lighthouse? A breathtaking site – and sight. Sca (talk) 21:14, 11 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you.
 * Never been there. With 150 Michigan lighthouses (lots I haven't seen, lots I have — and I've been to all of the Ohio, Indiana and most of the Wisconsin lights) I have a lot in my neighborhood.  Looks lovely, remove and historical.  I had worked on this long ago before I got P.O.'d at some officious interference with my Great Lakes and Michigan lighthouse project by some ne'er-do-wells on an issue over a very useful template.  So I moved on to other stuff.  Made some changes today.  Thanks for the heads up.  Cheers.  22:11, 11 July 2018 (UTC)


 * It's on Hwy. 61 – Bob Dylan country, to some extent at least. Nice pic here.
 * How do you feel about water towers? :-) Sca (talk) 14:08, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Sca Ypsilanti Water Tower I would have posted a photo, but did not want to be accused of doing an Anthony Weiner emulation.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:06, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Would that have been a nocturnal emulation? Sca (talk) 15:10, 31 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Sigh. Losing one's seat in Congress over this compulsive behavior was very sad.  15:18, 31 July 2018 (UTC)


 *   There's a water tower in my old hometown, Minneapolis, that looks like something out of the Nuremberg party rallies. Sca (talk) 15:22, 31 July 2018 (UTC) ⇒

Repeated additions
Hi, I see you've made three attempts to get your note into the article. There is already a longstanding discussion under way on the talk page which you have added to, and there is no consensus for such a note -- indeed there is a noticeable groundswell against it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:30, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Octopus
Please wait until the discussion is finished before you add things back. LittleJerry (talk) 15:38, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
 * LittleJerry You were right.  I was wrong.  I think the sourcing may not be there.  But I'll leave it to you and others to figure it out.  Ciao.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:56, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for greeting me
Yeah, thanks. :) -Andrew3335
 * User: Andrew3335 You are welcome. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:34, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.


 * Project news
 * The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.
 * As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.


 * There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See New pages patrol/Coordination for more info to see if you can help out.


 * Other
 * A new summary page of reliable sources has been created; Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources, which summarizes existing RfCs or RSN discussions about regularly used sources.


 * Moving to Draft and Page Mover
 * Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
 * If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
 * Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
 * The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
 * The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.

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Username breaks the template
Hiya. Your username breaks the template. I have opened a village pump thread Village_pump_(technical) --<i style="font-family:'Rock salt','Comic Sans MS'; color: Green;">Tyw7</i> (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 20:48, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I replied there. You can always contact me using User:7&6=thirteen <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:53, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Reply gadget from enterprisey uses that template. --<i style="font-family:'Rock salt','Comic Sans MS'; color: Green;">Tyw7</i> (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 20:55, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I've had this user name for over ten years, performed over 100K edits, and it more or less works. Those who want to find me seem to.  I am semi-retired from Wikipedia, and choose to let it be.  Best to you.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:05, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * And it broke the at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AEnterprisey%2Freply-link&type=revision&diff=860319332&oldid=860319030.  The username also broke links https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Enterprisey/reply-link&diff=next&oldid=860319634 --<i style="font-family:'Rock salt','Comic Sans MS'; color: Green;">Tyw7</i> (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 21:07, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Duh!. I just use four tildes.  Thanks.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:39, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

, When a username contains an equal sign, just add 1= at the beginning of the username for the ping to work.Like this, Hi, Stan! Trust you are keeping well. What a lot of fuss about a signature. Don't change it! All the best. Gareth Griffith&#8209;Jones&#160;The Welsh Buzzard 08:34, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Well it has also broke direct linking to the page or section too. --<i style="font-family:'Rock salt','Comic Sans MS'; color: Green;">Tyw7</i> (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 09:44, 20 September 2018 (UTC)


 * And cannot get my "Ping " right— have added User: here to mine, producing a redlink. Gareth Griffith&#8209;Jones&#160;The Welsh Buzzard 10:03, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Whoops. --<i style="font-family:'Rock salt','Comic Sans MS'; color: Green;">Tyw7</i> (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 10:40, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

The very first time since November 2011
Wow, thank you so much for the Dobos torte! I have been editing Wikipedia for nearly seven years, and no one has ever left me anything friendly-like on my talk page. You made me feel really good, all happy and appreciated.

Your friend, Ellie aka --FeralOink (talk) 13:28, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * FeralOink You are welcome. It is one of my shared  opinions that Wikipedia is long on negative reinforcement (pokes. admonitions and threats), and short on strokes.  we are all WP:Volunteers, and the failure to give out rewards is a big part of the reason why we have a problem with editor retention.  People hold back on WP:Barnstars to retaliate because they feel they aren't getting any (which they deserve), so why share.  Like it costs them money.  It's a big encyclopaedia.  I try to do my part, and when I run across someone deserving hand out something.  It's electronic, but not trivial.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:20, 27 September 2018 (UTC)


 * So.... some well deserved Strokes for you, Thirteensie. Enjoy!! ... in my view you have always been just as cool as Julian. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:30, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Martinevans123. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 22:16, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

 * Thank you. Delicious.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:40, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Edit war warning
Your recent editing history at Cutco shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Jytdog (talk) 16:28, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Cutco
Can you source that "The forever guarantee means the company will sharpen, replace and service them forever, irrespective of who the original purchaser was and need for a receipt."? Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:30, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Galobtter Already did. I have sent back $189 Chef knives I bought at an estate sale that had broken tips, and they get replaced for the sharpening fee (which is $9 to $20 (to pay for shipping), depending on how many items you get sharpened.  These are awesome knives. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:35, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Galobtter I put it back in a footnote.  It is a fact and it is referenced.  I was not "effuusive'."Take it to the talk page.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:49, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 * You are editing as a fan here, which looks alarmingly like paid editing. I do not believe at all that you are editing for pay, but this sort of commercial advocacy looks exactly the same. Please stop. Jytdog (talk) 16:30, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I would bet I've been editing longer than you. More edits perhaps? Be that as it may, paid editing as an accusation is a tall and unwarranted order.  Please stay off my talk page.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:44, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I very explicitly made no accusation of paid editing. I said you are editing as a fan, for a company.  You are aggressively adding spam to WP based on your good experience with this company. Please stop.  Please read WP:ADVOCACY if you never have. Jytdog (talk) 16:50, 3 October 2018 (UTC) (strike, sorry didn't see the note below Jytdog (talk) 16:55, 3 October 2018 (UTC))
 * Please address this at the article's talk page. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:52, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Here are four six sources: I've replied on the Vector Marketing article talk page. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:39, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 * A test of the Cutco Forever Warranty Blade Forums
 * Curcod cutlery Review The Frugal Farmer. "WOW!  Color me impressed.  Awesome products and above-and-beyond customer service to boot?  You don’t find that anymore."

Spamming cutco.com
cutco.com is going to end up on the spam blacklist if this keeps going.

Hello, I'm Jytdog. I wanted to let you know that one or more external links you added have been removed because they seemed to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines about links. Thank you. Jytdog (talk) 16:29, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Please stay off my talk page. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:45, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

No need to be faster than the bot :)
Hi, no need to worry: automatically clears the sandbox every hour, and  re-adds the header if it is gone. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:30, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Understood. There are, however, lots of WP:Spam, WP:Bio and WP:Advertising that are problematical.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:00, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Please stay off my talk page
User:Hijiri88. that means you. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:39, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Here's one for you too :)
I love this idea! Please have a slice too!

~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:43, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * And thank you. In the many years since I created this template, I think this is the first (or maybe second?) time someone returned the favor.  They are tasty, but I just had a belated lunch.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 19:45, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, this is even a custom one made by yourself – I didn't realize this first; thank you even more! I think it should absolutely become a part of the WikiLove extension or its configuration on the English Wikipedia. I have been looking at the common.js and the GitHub repository for the extension, but neither seem to be the place for such a request. If you have any idea where I can do this, please let me know. PS: Thank you very much for the kind message on my talk page, I can't reply there, I can't have the last word in that section. The same to you. :D ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:03, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The information you need can be found amongst the boxes on my WP:User page. I am a member.  I think editor retention is close to the top of problems facing Wikipedia.  We seemed to be oriented toward punishment (pokes), not Positive reinforcement (strokes).  I learned long ago that the latter is the best way to get the response you desire. You can catch more bees with honey than you can with vinegar.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:33, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Kindness Campaign <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:35, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Passing it back

 * I mean, it looks tasty, but I can't have it. Abequinn14 (talk) 20:24, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * thank you for sharing. I know it's low calorie because I baked the template myself.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:06, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry about your allergy to hazelnuts!. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 11:04, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018
Hello, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.
 * Backlog


 * Community Wishlist Proposal
 * There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
 * Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!


 * Project updates
 * ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
 * There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.


 * New scripts
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Richard Wilbur Award

 * User:GreenC Thank you. I've rescued lots of articles over the years, but never got a barnstar for it.  And in the hall of fame, even.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 14:40, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * User:GreenC
 * This is really patent.
 * Could barely call my talent latent.
 * Just used my sword
 * To defend the award.
 * No matter how I try to rope it,
 * You can see I'm just not a poet.
 * Richard Wilbur Award winner?
 * No, Burma Shave. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:00, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Article expansion and copious referencing prevailed.
 * Reason helped. This is not the Famous Poets Society  Vanity press.
 * But WP:Before is always the first line of defense.
 * I am not just a lawyer. I'm a WP:Wikilawyer. And I mean that in a good way. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:07, 27 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I was wrong. Shelby Gem Factory was also listed at the Hall of Fame.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>)

DYK nomination of Point of Graves Cemetery
Hello! Your submission of Point of Graves Cemetery at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:42, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ Cheers, Yoninah <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 23:44, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Let them eat cake
Thanks so much, but I couldn't. It's clearly too fattening. ;p TREKphiler  <sup style="font-family: cursive; color: #880085;">any time you're ready, Uhura  20:19, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Trekphiler It's only virtually fattening. And I am told that No animals were harmed in its production, and it contains no sugar and is zero calories.  Since I created the template, you would think I'd know?  Cheers.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:32, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Zero calories, you say? In that case, how could I possibly refuse? :D Salut!  Paul "The Chef" Prudhomme  <sup style="font-family: cursive; color: #880085;">I'm so baked, it's not funny  20:45, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Cerro Coposa
Recently, you removed my PROD of Cerro Coposa, saying that "There seem to be a number of spanish language books/sources, but I am not fluent in the language." While you are completely allowed to do so, I wanted to let you know that, as a Spanish student, I was unable to find a single reliable source regarding the mountains existence and/or notability. Would you be on-board with me tagging the page as refimprove? --DannyS712 (talk) 22:31, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * DannyS712 Absolutely.  Try Google Books.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 22:40, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 22:43, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018
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 * Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW
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Archive box
It appears that your Archive box on this page should read " index=/Archive index " rather than " index=Index ". With the latter Archive box creates "Index|Archives]]" rather than "Archives". Hyacinth (talk) 22:12, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

7&6...
... is 37.5p, not 13. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 16:29, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:9040:2770:6130:4DC:BC8B:A021 (talk) 23:42, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Ok forsure — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:9040:2770:6130:4DC:BC8B:A021 (talk) 00:02, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Haha sure it is.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:9040:2770:6130:4DC:BC8B:A021 (talk) 00:07, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Have you seen the movie strange brew What about schools for scoundrels — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:9040:2770:6130:4DC:BC8B:A021 (talk) 00:11, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Sarah Knauss (3rd nomination)
I think I brought a lawyer's touch to this debate. Brandeis brief. We will see. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 19:14, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The article was kept. So I am well and fine with that.
 * Interesting, the closer says that the vote was 6-6 keep/delete. Nevertheless, there were 15 keeps.  This is disenfranchisement on a scale befitting Republicans in North Carolina; remedial math is suggested.
 * Moreover, there were only four deletes (not six), and one Delete/merge. The page speaks for itself. Res ipsa loquitur. Hanging chads anyone?  Do we need a recount? <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>)
 * They deny any bad intent to not count the votes properly. Of course, they say there was no !vote. And they promise that another deletion is on the way.  You don't need a weatherman to see which way the wind blows.  WP:Duck. Rigged system.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 13:42, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Benjamin Miessner and the Cat's Whisker detector
Earlier in the year you added to the page Benjamin Miessner that he was the inventor of the Cat's whisker detector. You didn't have a citation and the crystal detector's page says that Greenleaf Whittier Pickard patented the device in 1906. Do you remember where your source was so that we can cite it on Miessner's page and update the crystal detector page? Thanks. Gooseneck41 (talk) 19:15, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Gooseneck41 I don't remember what source I used or consulted at the time. But here is a source.
 * Hope that helps. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 22:18, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ added it back into the article. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 13:26, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking care of that so quickly. Gooseneck41 (talk) 16:55, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking care of that so quickly. Gooseneck41 (talk) 16:55, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018
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This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.
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See also the list of top100 reviewers.

The backlog is now approaching 5,000, and still rising. There are around 640holders of the NPR flag, most of whom appear to be inactive. The 10% of the reviewers who do 90% of the work could do with some support especially as some of them are now taking a well deserved break.
 * Less good news, and an appeal for some help

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 * Really good news - NPR wins the Community Wishlist Survey 2019

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DYK nomination of Point of Graves Cemetery
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 * ✅ <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:24, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Thought you should know
User talk:Carptrash == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 02:53, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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 * ✅ <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 19:39, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Peace Dove Christmas
Happy Holidays. &#8213; Buster7  &#9742;   19:52, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy Holidays
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Thanks for all the great work you have done over the years. You have raised Wikipedia to a great level of professionalism. Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:36, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Io Saturnalia!
Io Saturnalia, Princeps! Don your synthesis and pileus, offer up your oscilla, distribute your sigillaria, and enjoy your convivium publicum. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 00:30, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

3RR
Hi, 7&6. I noticed that you gave a 3RR warning to Snooganssnoogans regarding Ryan Zinke. You need to give a warning to yourself also, since you have also reverted 3 times. I see that you are discussing at the talk page; the two of you need to resolve the issue there. You both know better than to risk getting yourselves blocked for edit warring. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:15, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I know that. I'm done with it.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:18, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Adding to this, as the person who is trying to change the status quo it is your responsibility to try to build consensus for your edit, not edit war your bold change back into the article until you exhaust your opponent's 3RR. This is the type of thing that is going to get you a personal WP:1RR sanction (or worse) for the whole American Politics topic area. ~Awilley (talk) 17:35, 19 December 2018 (UTC) I highly recommend that you remove the subsection for now and see if you can't work out some sort of compromise with Snooganssnoogans on the talk page, like working a sentence or two into an existing paragraph. ~Awilley (talk) 17:38, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I disagree. Take it to the article talk page.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:44, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, what do you disagree with exactly? That it's your responsibility to build consensus? Take a look at the page restrictions at the top of the talk page, the one where it says: "All editors must obtain consensus on the talk page of this article before reinstating any edits that have been challenged (via reversion). This includes making edits similar to the ones that have been challenged. If in doubt, don't make the edit." (There's also a WP:1RR restriction which you blasted through.) I'm not going to block anybody...I realize you probably didn't see the warnings, and it looks like your first time editing the Zinke article. But please do take this warning seriously. ~User:Awilley (talk) 19:30, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Awilley Sorry, I did not notice the warning on the talk page at the time. I did not mean to transgress.  I'm done editing that article, and will let WP:Consensus control.  It's out of my hands.  Cheers.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 19:44, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Upon further investigation, it's no wonder you didn't notice the warning, because it was just added today after the edit war was already finished. I apologize to you for my mistake in not noticing that before, and for suggesting that you had violated sanctions that didn't exist when you were actually editing. ~Awilley (talk) 19:55, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I took a look at this disagreement myself (as an editor, not an admin) and in my opinion the paragraph should be removed. I explained in detail at the talk page, and I will remove it while discussion goes on. -- MelanieN (talk) 17:56, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The comparison of Ryan Zinke] to Tea Pot Dome scandal has been made so often as to be trite and a notorious meme. I put in six WP:RSs in the article (and another 4 on the talk page) to prove it.  That the comparison has been made is a fact.  This is also being discussed here.
 * So you are wrong. But you do what you have to do.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:00, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The same content that you keep trying to add to Ryan Zinke and which has been characterized as poorly sourced by three editors was also removed from the Teapot Dome scandal, yet you're now also edit-warring on that page to restore the same content. Please stop. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 00:27, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Comparison of Teapot Dome scandal to Ryan Zinke
Your accusation is without any factual foundation. No edit warring. Teapot Dome scandal. Different article. WP:Censorship. WP:BRD. You appear to be WP:Wikistalking, but I'll wait and see on that. Take it to the talk page. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 00:37, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Your accusation is without any factual foundation. No edit warring. Teapot Dome scandal.  Different article.  WP:Censorship. WP:BRD. You appear to be WP:Wikistalking, but I'll wait and see on that.  Take it to the talk page. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 00:37, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It's the exact same content that three editors voiced opposition to - it's just on a different page and now you're edit-warring to keep the very same content on that page. And no, I'm not gonna waste my time talking to you on a separate talk page when there is a discussion about it on a separate talk page where it's beyond any doubt that this absurd content doesn't belong on Wikipedia. As for your stalking accusation: in a talk page comment on the Ryan Zinke, you yourself rambled about your contributions on the Teapot Dome scandal page. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 01:43, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Snooganssnoogans Do not refactor my comments on my talk page.  You know better.  Please stay off my talk page.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 04:07, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It's now on Teapot Dome Scandal but excluded from Ryan Zinke. Trump presidency might be a good place to start. I can't and won't fight these wars by myself.  Somebody put up a WP:1RR template, and I don't need the hassle.  WP:Consensus rules, however misguided that may be.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:22, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Point of Graves Burial Ground
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

 * Thank you. Back at you, and THANK YOU, too.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:18, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas !!!
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 * Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message

Seasonal Greetings
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Hi, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,

May next year be prosperous and joyful.

– Scope creep Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 11.02, 24 December 2018 (UTC) Thank you. We need more like you. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:22, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
Happy editing now, and into 2019 and beyond! -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:38, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Keep it up.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:22, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Xmas

 * 2018 XMAS.pdf FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:33, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Talkback
Had problems pinging you on my talk page, so leaving this talkback template. North America1000 03:38, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy New Year, 7&#38;6&#61;thirteen!
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Happy New Year! 7&#38;6&#61;thirteen, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

SkyGazer 512 <span style="background: linear-gradient(aqua, #d580ff);">Oh no, what did I do this time? 23:34, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Happy New Year!
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 7&#38;6&#61;thirteen , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! North America1000 14:23, 1 January 2019 (UTC)


 * – Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.

Thank you
Thanks much for your warm welcome, sir or madam! :-) 66.87.9.102 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:22, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Re: Merci!
I had an WP account for more than 10 years. This is a Google+ homepage that you could read ;-) (He likes to bike a lot - Like U, may be! :)) 66.87.9.102 (talk) 14:41, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Il n'y a pas de quoi. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:42, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Your userpage says you are a lawyer. Do you give short consultations/advise over the phone? Your signature has a phone but no dial if i click on it!? (Skype lets you dial by clicking on a weblink!).
 * Thanks for your feedback in advance and kind regards! ;-) 66.87.9.15 (talk) 01:44, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Fritz Pflaum Hut --> no guardian
The references say: "a reservation of groups is recommended" (e.g. Pit Schubert / Kaisergebirge extrem). This does NOT imply the guardian will be present. Please check also: www.alpenverein-bayerland.de: ''Die Fritz-Pflaum-Hütte (1866 m) ist eine unbewartete Selbstversorger-Hütte der Alpenvereinsektion Bayerland. ''. I'm part of the team maintaining this hut, thus I know these details quit well. PizzaBernd (talk) 19:29, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * PizzaBernd I was not disputing your personal knowledge. It is WP:OR, however.
 * The older source only said that there can be help if you have a group and arrange for it, as I recall.
 * I only became involved with this article because I wanted to save it from being Deleted. Articles for deletion/Fritz Pflaum Hut And we succeeded at that.  You can thank us later.
 * I suggest you use the reference you provided here.  which seems to address the issue.  Looks like a reliable source to me, although technically it isn't from a third party.  Cheers.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 01:24, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 13:02, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

2019
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Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

Thank you for your help last year, including with the TFA, and for your dear message on my talk! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:33, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:03, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of @world record egg
Hello! Your submission of @world record egg at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SkyGazer 512 <span style="background: linear-gradient(aqua, #d580ff);">Oh no, what did I do this time? 00:33, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Alpena, Michigan
I see you have again added a paragraph to Alpena,_Michigan of unsourced trivia. Is there a reason why you are edit warring over this?

Please either cite this, or remove it. Could you also explain what significance a location of a single episode of a TV comedy 23 years ago lends to the article? Thanks. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 16:42, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Also: you have restored a cite to IMDB. IMDB is not a reliable source and should not be used in this way. Thanks. -- Escape Orbit (Talk) 16:49, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Escape_Orbit It's cumulative. Remove it if you want.  May make you happy.  Cheers.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:50, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * No edit war. You see that there are sources (which you too could have found and added) for Die Hard 2?  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:21, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The first two cites for Die Hard are good. Unfortunately the other references you have added are two IMDB references, which I have already explained is not  a reliable source, and a cite to a random bad recording of a TV show on Youtube, which is not reliable source either, and a copyright violation. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 18:13, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * They exist. Those were the only two on line references I was able to find.  As to the random YouTube recording, it supports the premise. I put it there. You know how to remove it.  Cheers. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:18, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Legal syllogism
Very nice work getting sources, thank you. I have condensed the article to combine multiple statements of essentially the same facts, and removed the last unsupported wibble by Koszowski. Guy (Help!) 10:45, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. There are lots more sources, but I at least wanted to get enough to spike the misbegotten deletion.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 10:50, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

A Dobos torte for you!

 * Well, thank you very much. Welcome to Wikipedia.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:46, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

A Dobos torte for you!
Cosmic Sans (talk) 12:05, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Instagram egg
Sorry about my edit to this page. I'll be more considerate about this in the future. Syntaxlord (talk) 20:15, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Syntaxlord No worries.  It didn't offend me.  But it is one of the quirks in wikipedia.  Be careful, that's all. Just a Heads up! moment.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:21, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Crooked Billet
I have promoted the hook for the Crooked Billet DYK but have tweaked both hook and article to do so. The trouble is, the source provides the information in a straightforward manner and it is difficult to replicate its meaning without being guilty of close paraphrasing. I hope you approve of my alterations. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:02, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Cwmhiraeth DYK Looks fine to me. hooks are great.  I approve.  I had wanted to propose a hook that included the pub sign picture (which I really like), but couldn't formulate one.  Thanks.  Cheers.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 13:02, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm going to hit you with the torte as well.
Someone has to take action against some Polish guy, right? :^) Cosmic Sans (talk) 12:05, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. What were they thinking? WWTT?  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:08, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, if we allow Polish people to write articles, what's next? The French? The ENGLISH? There's no end to it! Cosmic Sans (talk) 12:17, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * So many prohibited groups. Irish?  Swedes?  Norwegians?  Chinese? Indians?  Hispanics?  How will we enforce this, especially if they are editing anonymously.
 * Actually, that page has an apparent violation of WP:Outing. He probably is within an exception to that rule, as the edits came with links to his own articles.  All of this is itself another issue.


 * If there is such a policy as cited WP:Outing, it should be abided by; there is no such an expetion therein - please, therefore, delete the added section on legal syllogism permanently sine I was not able to do that myslef. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Figreoutitis (talk • contribs) 17:36, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Ok, but can you delete it by yourself with note that the contributor asked about it since he has'n t known about WP:Outing policy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Figreoutitis (talk • contribs) 18:21, 26 January 2019 (UTC)


 * In defense, I recognize that this editor and his apparent socks are a problem. He needs to figure out a way to 'come in from the cold' (a lot of this is really just content disputes) and get an account reinstated.  But that is at a level outside my pay grade.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:45, 21 January 2019 (UTC)


 * If I may add also some general explanation, how should one know that creating many accounts is or even could be something wrong? While starting editing the Wiki, there is no slightest warning, information or even a whish indicating that one is to be attached to one account and should remember the password and cannot starts every edit or series of edits from new account and abandoning the previous one. Instead, creating an account is very easy and takes a few seconds and one is encouraged to create it in addition, instead of editing the Wiki without account despite such possibility is also allowed.

In this case the only proven or most probable fact is that one person has written several articles which cite the same scholar. This person could be member of this scholar’s family, for instance father, his student, colleague, mate, fan or reader.

But even if the same person makes contribution to the Wiki whose paper is cited, is it really wrong? One who feels really competent in a given field publishes a paper on it in peer reviewed journals, which fact somehow – however in an imperfect way – confirms the quality of his/her findings. And after that he or she may add some content in the Wiki, being confident that it is correct, and citing his/her own work for he/she is adding this content upon this work (conclusion which were reached therein). What is wrong here? Otherwise, multitude of sources must be cited: scholarly articles are prepared upon ten thousands of sources and a single statement can have 20 position in footnote attached to it. It seems rather to be the perfect way of providing the Wiki with high-quality content, obviously provided the research was  independent, objective and so on. It would be better if one another who is not competent and has misunderstood this work prepares the entry in the Wiki and cites this work, adding content of poor quality?


 * I am not the one to ask. There are policies about WP:Sockpuppet, WP:Meatpuppet, etc.  When one gets blocked and then just comes back using another account, evading the WP:Block, that is a problem.  I don't know if any of that applies to you or your situation.  I know that I use one account, ever since I got one, and that if I should have a problem with the password, I get it reset.  what I don't do is wander around creating accounts here and there.  There is a clear preference for stability and identity of accounts. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:34, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

I only tried to higlight this case. Such prefernce perhaps is, but new user of Wiki simple does not know about it, even if acting in a good faith. He/she should be informed about it. No-one here has been also eveding the block.

Look at this articles analogy, law, non liquet, statutory interpretation, metaphor, argumentum a contrario, argumentum a fortiori, loophole and Draft: Legal reasoning and you will see that edits form new accounts only perfect the current content. The edits demostrates good faith and not will to do something wrong.

This content was also not misquiding and not substentally incorrect.


 * You are appealing in the wrong court. Notwithstanding what I do in the real world, I am no administrator and no judge in Wikipedia.  You are pleading your case, but I can't do anything about it.  I understand that you are basically saying there were content disputes.  I know nothing about that.  Complete openness and candor will help – any shading or suspected untruth will be fatal.  Remember, everything we say and do on Wikipedia is recorded and there for all to see. I suggest that you put that energy into trying to appeal the block(s) on your old account, and explain it there to an admin.  Apologies, acts of contrition and firm purpose of amendment [should] go a long way toward getting your right to edit reinstated.  But I'm not you avocat.
 * That's just my suggestion. It's worth what you paid for it.  {:>{)>
 * Finally when you post on talk pages, don't forget to sign your note. Use four tiles ~ Best of luck to you.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:54, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I wish you not to be an advocate who is mine. I wish you to be an advocate of every good case! Figreoutitis (talk) 19:12, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to save the article from deletion. Which I did.  In spades.  It's an interesting subject, but I don't want to do the work to bring it up to law review quality. Trying to do such an article, especially on an international level, is just outside my bailiwick.  It doesn't dovetail much with my career or interests.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 17:06, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

A Dobos torte for you!

 * Thanks. Nice of you to share..  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 21:36, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Just returning the favor :) Syntaxlord (talk) 21:52, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the Dobos Torte!
Blessings to you and yours! :) Benkenobi18 (talk) 18:39, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Benkenobi18 May the force be with you! {:>{)> <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 19:58, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Crooked Billet
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:03, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Old refs for Ted Nugent
Hi 7&6=thirteen. I wanted to let you know that I came across some references you added to Ted Nugent years ago. Some were unreliable (therichest.com, celebritybirthplace.com), so I did a bit of cleanup, and did similar cleanup for Redford, Michigan. --Ronz (talk) 19:35, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Ronz No worries.  They were cumulative.  Some folks had denied that he had the Redford, Michigan connection. There was a mass of evidence to the contrary.  I solved the problem long ago and moved on.  Cheers.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 19:56, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Mr. Pointy
I appreciate the thanks, but not really necessary. It's not like it was hard... That said, I hope you'll not take amiss my removal of the "oil gauge" again, as off point to the page. (It's more apt for the lead-up page, where the reason can be included.) Pre-emptive I left in (tho frankly, I'm not positive about that, either). Carlo Collodi <sup style="font-family: cursive; color: #880085;">pull my string  00:41, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Trekphiler User:DickDurbane I am sure we can reasonably differ as to where the material belongs in Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. But I can't agree that it was not "preemptive" or that the effectiveness of the oil embargo was a preeminent and motivating factor in the decision to attack. Indeed, back in the day, I remember one of my history professors opining on the situation.  The Japanese hierarchy were essentially in a panic that the decline in oil stocks would make attacking Britain and the U.S. unsustainable, so they had to act now; and they had nothing but the vaguest of hopes on how they could win, or what their exist strategy might be.
 * I have seen that opinion expressed in documentaries since then.
 * I know that is not a WP:RS, so that is why I sourced this the way I did. And those are reliable sources. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 13:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't mean you're wrong on that, just that it seems off-point on that page; the Japanese intentions, IMO, belong better on the lead-in page than the actual attack page. You're quite right, Japan felt a need (reasonably so) to hit the U.S. before the oil supplies ran out. I might argue "pre-emptive" is the right term, because it suggests U.S. intent to attack, & Japan beating her to it, which isn't justified, but I have no better phrasing to suggest.  TREKphiler  <sup style="font-family: cursive; color: #880085;">any time you're ready, Uhura  16:30, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Given the technology of the time, an army (and navy. merchant marine and nation) ran on its oil drum, not just on its stomach. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:13, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you
Many thanks for the gift. Much appreciated. Its good to know that somebody out there reads my stuff. Apwoolrich (talk) 18:56, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
 * And your credits (on your WP:User page are truly impressive. Welcome back, Apwoolrich.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 18:59, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

You are doing amazing work
I love your work on Gull Terrier its a great article now. Could you redirect Indian Bull Terrier to Gull Terrier. Dwanyewest (talk) 23:07, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I appreciate the credit.  But it is not my article, and almost none of it is my work. I will put in a redirect.
 * FWIW, there are a number of dog articles I have worked on. For example, Bernese Mountain Dog, Leonberger (a comprehensive article IMO), Labrador Retriever, German Longhaired Pointer, Newfoundland, Great Pyrenees, etc. to name a few.  These were breeds that I had personally owned, already knew something about; personal experience piqued my interest and research.
 * Of course, the list of dog breeds is almost endless, and there is much work to be done. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 23:35, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Dwanyewest Redirect done. You can do that, too.  See WP:Redirect.  Easy.  <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 12:45, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

One of the links is dead
The African website link about Gull Terrier is dead. Dwanyewest (talk) 15:21, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Dwanyewest Mark it with   <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:37, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:43, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 10:39, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Continuing that discussion on the AFD would be inappropriate, but...
Go for it. My comments are well within bounds. Pound sand and see what it gets you. Just so we're clear -- you're refusing to admit any fault in the above comment, and are saying that you will happily make such comments again in the future? That's ... an interesting take. Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 13:32, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Hijiri88 There was and is no fault to admit.  My comments were wholly appropriate.  That is my principled position. You are free to disagree, and that's what we have talk pages for.  You overstepped by trying to dictate content of my remarks, including limiting them in the future.  Your attack and vacuous threats only prove that you did not comply with WP:Before and have no defense on the merits.  As you did  here, proposing and defending silly WP:AFDs is a waste of valuable editor time.  I will say what I want in the future.   Watch what you do. See WP:Boomerang. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:51, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Taking this to your talk page, and hopefully this'll be the end of it
(FTR: I haven't read GC's comment, which he posted after I'd already written the following.)

I figured out what you meant before you told me. I know (and knew from when I checked that dictionary.com link -- indeed I had actually known from context) that you weren't literally talking about fecal matter. Your claiming that you have more "quality" experience of English than I is ... not helpful. I have not mentioned your poor spelling/grammar at any point in my interaction with you, and I would appreciate your not making comments like that just for the sake of civility. Please just drop it already. I have made a request multiple times, and you really should just respect simple requests like this: "don't use language that equates Hijiri88's comments to turds" is not technically a Wikipedia policy point that you are obliged to adhere to, but it's generally considered extremely poor form to repeatedly engage someone in a manner that they have politely requested you not do.

Please, just stop.

Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 14:41, 11 March 2019 (UTC) 市民性と尊敬は相互的でなければなりません. Shimin-sei to sonkei wa sōgo-tekidenakereba narimasen.
 * "It takes two to tango"
 * As I already indicated there, you have misinterpreted (and continue to misinterpret) the meaning of the idiom I used. You can be willfully blind if you so choose. I can't make you understand if you don't want to.  Ipse dixit doesn't apply here.  It ain't so just because you said it.
 * I speak no Japanese, and rely on Google translate for the following:

My words were: "Civility and respect must be mutual." Whether Google translate got that right, I do not know. I did NOT use the word "citizenship" which appeared when I tried translating this back.
 * Let us build a better encyclopædia together. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 15:07, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Talkback
Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:44, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Instagram egg
The nomination is waiting for a reply from you before it can proceed. Can you please stop by soon? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:19, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * BlueMoonset ✅ <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 20:13, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Template talk:Lighthouses of Wisconsin
I brought the issue to the talk-page, could you help me understand your point of view on keeping the section? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:56, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * User talk:Knowledgekid87 Thanks for the head up. I'll get it in a couple of days. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 14:05, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

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