User talk:Allen3/Archive8

DYK nomination
I've expanded Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation further following your comments on T:TDYK, and it now stands at a 5.15x expansion (6546/1271 characters of prose). -- ChrisO (talk) 16:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

By the way, could you also please have a look at my nomination of Attorney General of Virginia's climate science investigation? It's been languishing since July 29th without any comment. -- ChrisO (talk) 17:12, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Silver King Mine
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 18:02, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Fedspeak DYK promotion premature?
I don't suppose it matters at this point, but the Fedspeak DYK didn't seem approved by other editors - the nominator used to indicate that he had wikified the bare URL citations, but it did not seem that the other concerns "weak" and "unclear" had been answered to the satisfaction of the reviewers. I'm not formally opposing, just bleating, I guess. --Lexein (talk) 18:58, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Need a decision
I'd appreciate it if you'd decide what to do here: User_talk:Rlevse. Thanks in advance.  — Rlevse • Talk  • 02:01, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: Thumbnail problems
Thanks, you sure know the scoop. I brought it up there but figured leaving it in the DYK entry in case it is fixed. The weird text isn't harming anyone in the mean time and someone might need to see it to help fix the bug.--NortyNort (Holla) 13:09, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry...
...Were you about to populate P2? I noticed some edit conflicts... Shall I continue? Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!)  18:21, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK nominations
Hello. The reason I submit DYK nominations in Piotrus' name is that he is topic-banned from Poland-related articles, except that he may participate at WT:POLAND (per an ArbCom ruling). On a weekly basis Piotrus reviews the new Poland-related articles and posts a list of housekeeping suggestions, including DYK nominations. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 23:37, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, That explains a lot. --Allen3 talk 23:45, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Walter Eli Clark
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:02, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

George Roubicek
Please take care when approving hooks for DYK. The George Roubicek article was tagged as uncategorized with a big yellow banner (because it was, in fact, in no article categories) when you approved it for promotion. While this is hardly FA, DYK articles should be "complete" in the sense that they have no empty sections, are not missing critical items, and do not have unresolved tags. - Dravecky (talk) 21:04, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Wilford Bacon Hoggatt
The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK promos
Two preps currently need promoted. One has my hook in it so I'm waving off this one. — Rlevse • Talk  • 12:06, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for John Franklin Alexander Strong
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 18:04, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for George Alexander Parks
TheDYKUpdateBot 12:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Denard Robinson
Can you explain your reasoning to me regarding the Denard Robinson DYK credit. Please hit my talk page.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:12, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't contest that the article was DYK-compliant before I made an edit, but in regards to the content that makes the main page, I made some significant contributions. I would contest your statement "It is also not obvious from a quick examination of the article history that your contributions significantly improved that article." with some of my contributions to the article as follow: significant expansion of his high school career and the most important fact in the article about his track career, his external links, his most important 2009 performances here, here, here, his 2010 week 1 awards, and his infobox highlights and minor tweaks.  Personally, I have done a lot of DYKs and usually myself add other contributors who add that much to my nominations.  Think of the article that without infobox highlights his three most important contributions in 2009, his 2010 awards, no mention that he was the fastest man on the track team, a brief high school section without the fancy recruit box, etc. and tell me it is substantially the same article that you see now.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I have never looked at in terms of prose contributed. I know I have often contributed less than 1500 characters before and gotten credit and deservedly so many times.  However those were articles like Marcus Ray and DeWayne Patmon that were barely 1500 as co-authored articles.  Probably neither person contributed 1500 characters. I have never heard of a rule that each contributor had to contribute 1500 characters.  My point is the 1390 characters of prose contribution resulted a proper explanation of his high school years, 2009 performance, his primary track highlight and his first 2010 awards.  If his career continues on its current trajectory, none of that is going to be extremely important content. But, at the present moment, it helps explain who he is.  Feel free to avoid my nominations at DYK. In the grand scheme of 300 hundred plus nominations I have been involved in less than 1% have involved disputed credit so I don't think talking to me like I am a chronic problem at DYK makes sense.  You should really focus on whether you believe that all authors must contribute 1500 characters to get a credit, which I doubt is really true.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR)  16:15, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Additionally, please confirm that you would give credit to a person who adds zero prose and comes up with a hook to nominate an article, but not to a person who add 1499 characters.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:18, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * As I recall the decision at DYK was essentially, "I don't thinks so, but I am not sure so I will let the person who selects the hook make the call". In addition the other editor noted my contributions were probably worth acknowledging. If there was any other prior decision let me know because I do not understand your forum shopping idea.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
 * You seem to have forgotten to point out all the other forums I was forum shopping at regarding DYK credit. All I see here was a statement that someone else should review the decision later (by which time I had made further contributions to the article I believe).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:09, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for B. Frank Heintzleman
-- Cirt (talk) 18:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Mike Stepovich
 — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:03, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for John Schuyler Crosby
Shubinator (talk) 18:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

John Perry Robinson‎ DYK review
Hello, thanks for starting the John Perry Robinson review on DYK. I've provided an ALT1. Sorry for not keeping an eye on the length of the original hook.  Schwede 66  22:06, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK reply
Hi Allen3, I replied to your comment here:. DVD 18:57, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Bach cantatas
Thanks for approving Bach cantatas on DYK! Would you mind looking at the one in the Special occasions holding also? Sunday is coming soon. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

ITN timer and the bot
Nope, I don't think the bot did anything. I updated T:ITN around 10:02UTC (about 3 hours ago), and reset the time about 1.5 hours later (I updated T:ITN following a WP:ERRORS report). The old timer time is about 6 hours ago. Apologies if I've missed something, and I won't revert again, but I reverted back to my timer time. <b style="color:#000">TFOW</b><b style="color:#F00">R</b> 12:18, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Riggs, Jr.
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:03, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Samuel Thomas Hauser
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:02, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

World Golf Village

 * Symbol possible vote.svg Insufficient recent expansion. Needs at least another 500 characters to qualify. --Allen3 talk 12:47, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Please elaborate. Article size before expansion was 1,352; 5x expansion = 6,760; current size = 8,869 Mgrē@sŏn  14:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Expansion should be sufficient now. Thanks. Mgrē@sŏn  17:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry
Not sure how this happened. I think I mis-clicked rollback without realizing. Derild 49  21  ☼  01:00, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I figured it was probably an honest mistake. Fortunately it was spotted early an did not cause problems with the same hook being added to multiple updates. --Allen3 talk 01:13, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Benjamin F. White (Montana politician)
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:03, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Input
Your thoughts invited here: Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know. I see you make the new day section manually right at 00:00. Do you have an internal alarm ;-) <span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 17:03, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK nom
it said "late nomination." What does that mean? The encyclopaedia constantly expands so it would grow at different times?
 * it should grow this friday as the subject becomes more topical.Lihaas (talk) 11:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but does it have to be new. the rules list the 3 criteria but are they all 4 or just 1/2/3?Lihaas (talk) 12:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Can i propose a different rule? Something like an at least 50% expansion on articles above Xk, because 5x on a 30k article means 250k in 5 days. thats impossible and too longLihaas (talk) 12:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Alabama v. Georgia
It took me four days to find the cites requested. I added them to the article. But, due to the newly-restrictive DYK nominations rule about auto-deleting noms more than eight days old to which discussions "have gone stale," the DYK nom has been deleted. I didn't think that four days was too long to respond, but I guess it was (even though my hook was only eight days old). Now all that work is useless and lost. - Tim1965 (talk) 02:50, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK query on List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in South West England
I've responded to your query at my nomination's entry. Basically the Churches Conservation Trust lists the same 3 entries in both Bristol & Somerset.&mdash; Rod talk 16:40, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

New editor seeks exemption for DYK eligibility
Hi Allen. Another editor has contacted me regarding a DYK nom(Film studies - 15th entry for Oct 28). He is asking on behalf of a student (the articles author) that the rules be waived in terms of date of expansion. This is what he wrote. As a new DYK reviewer, I feel uncomfortable bending the rules. If possible, could you advise? (the article in question needs a fair bit of copyediting, BTW) Thanks, The Interior (Talk) 22:40, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
 * This issue has been settled. The Interior (Talk) 20:01, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK Prep 1
Looks like we're both trying to update it... I'll let you finish. 28bytes (talk) 19:06, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries. I rolled my changes back and am moving them to Prep 2. 28bytes (talk) 19:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Charles T. Hayden article
Allen, I just wanted to say you did a "nice job" on the Charles T. Hayden article. I added a couple of fixes to it but they were strictly clerical in nature. It is a well done article that is virtually your entire handiwork. Regards... Steve. Stevenmitchell (talk) 06:25, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Purge (novel) nomination
Responded at the dyk nomination, Sadads (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Jints Bears
I replied here. Sorry for the delay, I've been working on an article for FAC and forgot. AaronY (talk) 11:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

IPv6 brokenness
You are quite right that the term "IPv6 brokenness" is a neologism, and not of itself notable. However, the article IPv6 brokenness is not about the term, but the topic it refers to, which is most definitely notable, as can be seen from the cited coverage in multiple mainstream published sources: of which there's a lot more out there. See WP:NOTABILITY for the exact criteria.

If you can think of a better title (and, for good or ill, the term "ipv6 brokenness" is probably the most commonly used in places such as NANOG and RIPE) you're welcome to move the article. I've considered "dual-stack client loss" as an alternative, but it has even fewer hits, sounds vague, and is not so vivid a term. -- The Anome (talk) 23:23, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Problems with upload of File:Commercial graffiti, Berlin.jpg
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Wikipedia Ambassador Program is looking for new Online Ambassadors
Hi! Since you've been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, I wanted to let you know about the Wikipedia Ambassador Program, and specifically the role of Online Ambassador. We're looking for friendly Wikipedians who are good at reviewing articles and giving feedback to serve as mentors for students who are assigned to write for Wikipedia in their classes.

If that sounds like you and you're interested, I encourage you to take a look at the Online Ambassador guidelines; the "mentorship process" describes roughly what will be expected of mentors during the current term, which started in January and goes through early May. If that's something you want to do, please apply!

You can find instructions for applying at WP:ONLINE. The main things we're looking for in Online Ambassadors are friendliness, regular activity (since mentorship is a commitment that spans several months), and the ability to give detailed, substantive feedback on articles (both short new articles, and longer, more mature ones).

I hope to hear from you soon.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 02:05, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

BLP, ethnicity, gender
Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons

Wikilawyers have been trying to drive through a wording loophole in WP:BLP, saying ethnicity and gender of WP:EGRS don't apply to living persons, simply because the two words aren't in the policy. (Apparently, they think it should only apply to dead people.) I see that you have participated on this topic at the Village Pump.

They also are trying to remove the notability and relevance criteria at WT:EGRS, but that's another fight for another day, I'm simply too busy to watch two fronts at the same time. --William Allen Simpson (talk) 21:22, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

April Fools Prep 3
Thank you for creating the April Fools DYK Queues. I just noticed that in Prep 3 you used the wrong hook for Ice Cream (Mango). The correct hook was ... that ice cream grows in Florida?, and the one you added was unverified. Thank you for the work you are doing to help with April fools!--Found5dollar (talk) 15:22, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed. --Allen3 talk 15:43, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

April 1 hook
Hi, Allen3. this hook is not verified. May I please ask you do not add it to prep area? I added it back to "awaiting verification" for April 1 holding area. Thanks.--Mbz1 (talk) 16:23, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Queu 1
Just a short note: the hook on the Texas beetle has not bold linked article. Perhaps that needs correcting? --Crusio (talk) 16:51, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Vornado Air Circulation Deletion
Allen3,

You deleted the entry for Vornado Air Circulation Systems some time ago. I am planning on creating a new page for "Vornado Air LLC" and another for "Vornado". I head up the brand marketing efforts for Vornado Air LLC, who owns the consumer products brand "Vornado". The pages will contain information about the company and products including historical info, photography, etc.

Please reply if you have any concerns with the creation of this content, as I want to ensure my efforts aren't deleted or viewed as illegitimate.

Regards,

BCartwright — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bcartwright (talk • contribs) 22:04, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Iman al-Obeidi
Allen3, thanks for moving DYK for Iman al-Obeidi to prep. I just wanted to let you know that Alt1 hook is not only more catchy, but also does the woman's heroism more justice than Alt2, which you chose for the queue. Would you mind replacing the hook in prep with this version:

.... that Libyan female lawyer Iman al-Obeidi, who accused Muammar Gaddafi's troops of politically-motivated rape, was named by the Washington Post a "symbol of defiance against Gaddafi"?

or it's slightly rewritten version, to get rid of the passive voice:

.... that Washington Post named Libyan female lawyer Iman al-Obeidi, who accused Muammar Gaddafi's troops of politically-motivated rape, a "symbol of defiance against Gaddafi"?

The reviewer's remark on Alt2 "More neutral and checks out. No issues with this hook." was calling it "more neutral" in comparison it to the original hook, and not to Alt1, which merely took a bit longer to check out. Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 15:10, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Cinosaur (talk) 15:21, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Exchanging hooks?
I'm wondering if you would be willing to move this hook into the current prep area 4? I was hoping to see it approved in time to make it to that queue. The reason I ask is that this article was written by a student in a course working with the ambassador program, and that queue is set for the time of our next class meeting. It would be neat for her to be able to show it to the class. I think it shouldn't be too big of a deal, since it is just a matter of switching the order of two already approved hooks. Maybe one of the two US baseball-themed hooks would be a good one to exchange. If that's okay with you, I'd be very grateful. Let me know if you have any questions. Dominic·t 04:32, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
 * For reference, the hook in question has since been placed in prep area 1. It is the one for the Childhood Obesity Task Force. I'd still like to see it moved up one queue, if at all possible. Thanks. Dominic·t 09:45, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Image issue
Hi Allen3,

I see you've uploaded a new low-res version of File:Alice Manfield - Guide Alice, Mt Buffalo, c1900-30, SLV.jpg, it appears in order to protect it to appear on the mainpage?

Unfortunately that has killed the connection from Wikipedia to the high-res version on Commons, Commons:File:Alice Manfield - Guide Alice, Mt Buffalo, c1900-30, SLV.jpg, which was also recently promoted to Featured pictures.

Does this low-res version get deleted once it's been on the mainpage so the link is restored to the high-res version?

Also wondering why this is done, as FPs hosted on Commons are not replaced by low-res versions here when being used as WP:POTDs?

--jjron (talk) 13:50, 6 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Cheers. I've left the FP image promoter a note about it in case anything goes awry from that end in the process of it being deleted, etc. --jjron (talk) 14:17, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Jesus at Herod's Court DYK
I have found a source for the claim and rewritten the hook for the DYK for Jesus at Herod's Court. Just to let you know. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 20:06, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Re: DYK nomination of Polish-Lithuanian (adjective)
Thanks, replied there. Hopefully most issues are addressed now. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 17:54, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for James Reavis
The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

April 2011
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Talk:Mexican-American War. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively. In particular, the three-revert rule states that: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice.  Sandstein   19:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Comment: I have been asked to look at this on my talk page. This looks rather lame to me, I'm sorry to say. If you want to express an opinion about horse carcasses, please do so as part of a new comment under a new header, but you should not overwrite comments by others. Regards,  Sandstein   19:18, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Incidentally, I went to Sandstein, not because I felt that they were going to rule in my favor, but simply because I knew they were an admin. I have no idea how to know quickly who is or is not an admin. In fact, Sandstein has given me correction in the past, and I didn't want to get into a third revert and end up with us having to get into trouble.  Sandstein also warned me about this current situation, and honestly the impression I get is that Sandstein felt the entire thing was a bit lame. -- Avanu (talk) 03:18, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

CTV Building
Thanks for shifting my DYK nomination to the 'correct' date. I nominate most of my articles in what is morning in New Zealand, but usually that's still the previous day by UTC time. I should keep an eye on the UTC clock that I have enabled in my user profile.  Schwede 66  04:46, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for George M. Willing
The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Two-mass-skate bicycle
I believe that I have finally managed to perform the required review of another editor's submission. Would you please confirm and update your review of Two-mass-skate bicycle? -AndrewDressel (talk) 17:03, 17 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks! -AndrewDressel (talk) 17:53, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 3rd Arizona Territorial Legislature‎
Orlady (talk) 18:02, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 4th Arizona Territorial Legislature‎
The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 6th Arizona Territorial Legislature
The DYK project (nominate) 18:02, 22 April 2011 (UTC)