User talk:Another Believer/Archive 22

Forrest monument
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Hello. Do we not have an article about this please? Would you like to create it?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:50, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Carptrash and User:Magnolia677: Are you interested in working on this too please?Zigzig20s (talk) 01:13, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I might get around to this eventually (I added the "not done" symbol as a reminder), but creating a stub doesn't take long, so I'm curious why you don't make one yourself? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:14, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Because I'm in full Work Bitch mode in real life, but I'd love the distraction of reading and doing minor edits on more articles about Confederate monuments. Also, better create them before they get removed as it may lead other editors to take and upload pictures.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:18, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I have three or four articles that I am working on right now, but will try and get something started. Carptrash (talk) 01:24, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Please ping me when you do.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:25, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Carptrash! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:29, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Carptrash: Is the statue resting on his 'Grave' as Commons seems to be suggesting?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:40, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, let's see what we can dig up. Carptrash (talk) 02:43, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Carptrash: See also: "Nashville is also home to another statue of Forrest that has been described as “terrifying,” with eyes that glow “like a flesh-eating zombie on bath salts,” as a Washington Post reporter once wrote. Despite efforts to remove it, the statue still stands.". This gives more info. Would you mind creating it please?Zigzig20s (talk) 03:12, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll look, but I have actually sworn of the CSA monuments article because I have doctrinal difference with where the list is going and where it has gone. And when I do a stub you ask me to do and then you immediately label it as "low priority" I think,"Hmmm this is bad feng shui." Carptrash (talk) 03:17, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Not at all. That is the standard rating for WikiProjects. We raise the priority level during times of high activity. Please create it if you can!Zigzig20s (talk) 03:18, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Some WikiProjects don't even have priority levels because it is quite meaningless, as there is no deadline to expand articles on Wikipedia.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:19, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Carptrash: See Jack Kershaw. Lots of RS if you google "Bill Dorris Nashville" too.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:16, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Please know your work is appreciated by many editors. I don't have a problem with you posting on my talk page, but perhaps a better record would be kept if you posted sources on the article's talk page, instead of using a user page to ping a different user about possible updates. There's no rush to expand all of these articles immediately, so it's probably best to use article talk pages instead of posting lots of specific requests for Carptrash. --- Another Believer  ( Talk ) 07:19, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you!Zigzig20s (talk) 07:42, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I do feel appreciated, I just have some issues with how the Confederate List is progressing and prefer to now concentrate on the Union List instead. If I stumble across pictures in my collection of CSA monuments I will add them. Carptrash (talk) 15:52, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Just to let you know, I have started Nathan Bedford Forrest Statue in use.Zigzig20s (talk) 04:48, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * And the Nathan Bedford Forrest Bust. I also think this could do with a stand-alone article, but I have to go back to work...Zigzig20s (talk) 06:49, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * In case you're still interested: Confederate Private Monument.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:25, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks good! I made a few edits. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:46, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've just created Sam Davis Statue.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:57, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

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Regional and national interest in PNW wildfires


I think there's an opportunity for Cascadia Wikimedians but struggle to put my finger on it. Pageviews on the Jolly Mountain fire page are increasing exponentially. I noticed that it even tops Kim Kardashian on Google Trends now (no joke). I wish we at least had some people sending photos in from Cle Elum and Ellensburg, if not contributing to the articles themselves for this and the larger Oregon fires. ☆ Bri (talk) 06:32, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Just had another look and "‪‪Eagle Creek‬, ‪Oregon‬, ‪Columbia River Gorge‬, ‪Cascade Locks‬‬" is currently the #1 trending item. #16 is "‪‪Washington‬, ‪Jay Inslee‬, ‪Cle Elum‬‬" ☆ Bri (talk) 06:49, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow. Yeah, wildfire articles are pretty foreign to me, and the categories for Oregon and Washington are not very populated, so I figured I'd throw some stubs up to see what would stick and expand. If you're familiar with good sources for identifying notable wildfires with missing articles, I'd be interested to create more stubs. Also, not sure if "season" articles are better than standalone articles for each fire, but the community will sort that out over time. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:12, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The idea of creating stubs is a good one. Never have created a fire article before Jolly Ridge either, though I had come acrosss a 1905 one called the Yacolt Burn and added some of that to Satsop Hills. So am just following the usual procedure of looking for newspaper sources etc. I usually stay away from the "breaking news" type stuff but am making an exception for this. Rice Ridge Fire in Montana  is national #1 fire priority, so will probably go there next. ☆ Bri (talk) 14:39, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. I just posted a note at WikiProject Oregon asking folks to help expand stubs and/or create new ones for other notable fires. There doesn't seem to be as much local interest in documenting wildfires at Wikipedia, but hopefully we'll get around to enhancing coverage soon. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:41, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * My experience is that topics of rural interest such as forestry and equestrian topics are significantly under-represented. I think talked about this in a San Diego presentation. Another one of our systemic biases. ☆ Bri (talk) 14:47, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Very interesting, though I would also think there are some editors who are very interested in creating and updating articles about fires/wildfires, regardless of their location. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:49, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * If-when you notify the Oregon project you might want to point out the notability guidelines WP:WILDFIRE-NOTE. Most significant right now is probably the acreage minimum, 1,000 ac. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:07, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

I noticed Joe has uploaded some pictures from Seattle. Maybe he has more ideas for mobilizing editor/contributor engagement. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:30, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * No real suggestions other than letting people know, if you know people in the relevant geographical areas. - Jmabel &#124; Talk 17:53, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Something just occurred to me, should Cascadia Wikimedians have a Reddit account e.g. to contribute to http://reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/6y8j9d and invite participation back here? ☆ Bri (talk) 18:13, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * We might be getting some help from in the online media realm. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:24, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know much about Reddit, but I'm not opposed to the idea of somehow connecting CWUG and Reddit. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:16, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Late to this party, but it looks like a very good project idea and I support the concept! (That said, I'm going to be The Little Red Hen and probably let other people do most of the work, but will pop by if pinged.) No matter how underrepresented we are, when a million acres of forest burns, there most certainly is an international impact in terms of carbon into the atmosphere, etc. The Sprague Fire threatens a number of historic structures in Glacier National Park, which is an international treasure. Wildfires also hold the potential for loss of life and property; we lost some firefighters in various accidents over the years, notably the historic Mann Gulch Fire, and these folks are often unsung heroes. (and Montanans are sort of honorary members of Cascadia WMG)  Montanabw (talk) 17:38, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * We should keep an eye on the Montana statistics. According to this, the burn is over 1 million acres and close to an all-time record. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:59, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

2017 Oregon wildfires
You assessed 2017 Oregon wildfires as an article; it looks more like a List especially if the important fires get there own articles. However, I didn't change the category just in case you had plans to develop it more.--Orygun (talk) 07:12, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I think the goal is to continue expanding the article's prose. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:05, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Milli Fire accessment

 * What is Milli Fire article missing? I think it's pretty comprehensive article with detailed day-by-day chronology of events.  In fact, it includes virtually everything published on that wildfire event with multiple sources for almost every fact.  I just don’t see how that could be START level article.  Wiki-Fire rep rated Cinder Butte Fire article as "B" and it covers much less ground than Milli Fire article. Respectfully request you re-access rating for that article.--Orygun (talk) 22:02, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem. I actually rated the article before seeing your comment at WikiProject Oregon. I was going to wait and see if anyone took on the task of assessing, but I'll go ahead and upgrade now. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:16, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Omnion (Hercules and Love Affair album)
If you acknowledge that the disambiguation isn't necessary, then why did you create it at a disambiguated namespace? Did you not want to create content at one of Zawl's redirects?  Ss 112  21:01, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Because I assumed there were pages of similar name and created the redirect straight from the artist's page. I created new pages all the time, and I made a mistake by failing to check beforehand. Also, not the end of the world... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:03, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ...Didn't say it was the end of the world. It was a simple question.  Ss 112  21:04, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, sorry if I came off defensive. Was just acknowledging my mistake and trying to put things in perspective. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:06, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Er, I just checked, and before you added them, there were no links to that namespace before you added them. From the artist's page...is that what you meant?  Ss 112  21:07, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I just meant that from the artist's page I went to the search bar and typed "Omnion (Hercules and Love Affair album)", and created the redirect, before checking to see if "Omnion" was available first. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:09, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of The Feast of the Broken Heart


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Nomination of The Feast of the Broken Heart for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article The Feast of the Broken Heart is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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 * Totally unnecessary... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:58, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Article needs your help!
Hey there,

I just found Robert May House while doing new page patrol, and as it stands it might just fall to an overzealous admin. Maybe you'd like to put into some kind of shape? --Slashme (talk) 20:10, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't have time to expand the article at the moment, but I did add a few categories and WikiProject banners. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:47, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Slashme (talk) 07:18, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

List of songs recorded by Björk
Hi! I know you're one of the most proficient Björk articles editor, so i wanna let you know that i recently did a re-styling of the dated List of songs recorded by Björk. Feel free to contribute and thanks for your work! Fabrictii (talk) 14:02, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The list looks great, and may even meet FL criteria. Well done! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:26, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank you
for coming along behind me and cleaning up some of the messes I've been creating. I realize that lots of these statues are turning out to have at least two versions because the states, when then put one forth for Washington seem to like to keep one for themselves. I just realized that I visited Jo Davidson's statue of Will Rogers in Claymore OK. I am now trying to get jpg versions of my 35mm slides, a process that takes about 45 minutes to do 4 pictures. Gives me time to write. Be seeing you, Carptrash (talk) 04:50, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem, and thanks for creating and improving so many articles. Completing the statuary hall collection will take a while, but I'd love to see this happen, and I am glad there are a few other editors who are interested in helping. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:57, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Looking at some Jo Davidson stuff I found this picture, plopped on wikipedia more than 10 years ago. Thanks for bringing it back to my attention. Carptrash (talk) 23:16, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Celebrity Big Brother
Hi, you played a part in the renaming of Celebrity Big Brother (U.S.) I thought I would let you know that there is currently a move request on Talk:Celebrity Big Brother (the UK version) and think your opinion would be greatly appreciated! TheDoctorWho (talk) 19:22, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I'm not sure about the best possible title, but did add a comment to the discussion. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:56, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Undoing of edit to Tinker Tailor Soldier Sailor Rich Man Poor Man Beggar Man Thief
Hi, I see you recently undid an edit I had made to the redirect Tinker Tailor Soldier Sailor Rich Man Poor Man Beggar Man Thief in which I converted it from a redirect based on the title of a non-notable song to a redirect to the English nursery rhyme and 1927 poem by A.A. Milne (see here and here). The nursery rhyme and poem predate the title and the lyrics to the song by at least 80 years, don't they? And since we already have an article on Tinker, Tailor which covers this fact, shouldn't the redirect go there? At the very best, we need a disambiguation page, though a hat note on the nursery rhyme article is all that is probably necessary. I'm not sure I understand your meaning from the edit summary where you write, Restore much more appropriate and purposeful redirect; otherwise we'll have to create redirect for all this + "(song) (do you mean "Tinker Tailor Soldier Sailor Rich Man Poor Man Beggar Man Thief (song)?" Because that is not at all necessary!  Can I show you?  Am even less certain how you mean "appropriate" or "purposeful", though). KDS4444 (talk) 02:04, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * If you feel that strongly, feel free to revert. I went ahead and created Tinker Tailor Soldier Sailor Rich Man Poor Man Beggar Man Thief (song) and Tinker Tailor Soldier Sailor Rich Man Poor Man Beggar Man Thief (Radiohead song) as redirects, just in case. I just assumed if someone was taking time to type out this long text specifically, they would be looking for information about the song. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:25, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * And fair enough, except that the Wikipedia search box attempts to show readers possible article titles as they type— I wanted to learn more about the poem, and began typing "Tinker taylor"... When I saw the full line, I thought I had found the poem, only to land on a page about a song I had never heard of and not even a link anywhere to the poem or nursery rhyme (and not even an article with "tinker taylor" in the title, but a only redirect).  Eventually I discovered that there was indeed a good article match (even better than a redirect!), but the redirect did not point to it!  Which was why I changed it.  If you are okay with me changing it back, I would very much like to do so.  Thanks for hearing my argument.  KDS4444 (talk) 06:43, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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Recommending new editors to your WP Oregon
Hi Another Believer,

Thank you for signing up our study! Just to let you know that I am preparing the recommendations for your project now, and will be sending them out to you in the next couple days. Please let me know if you have any question in the meanwhile. Bobo.03 (talk) 17:05, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:07, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Recommendations
Hi Another Believer,

Our system generated a list of potential new editors for your project. They may be interested in collaborating with your project members to on your project's articles. As you will notice, the list contains both experienced editors and newcomers. Both are valuable for Wikipedia and your project. Please go ahead and introduce your project to them, and point them to some project tasks to start with. We also provide a template invitation message to make it easier to contact the potential new editors. Just click the invite link to write the invitation message.

We'd appreciate it if you could fill the survey to let us know what you think about our recommendations so we can improve our system. Bobo.03 (talk) 18:17, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:57, 21 September 2017 (UTC)


 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:05, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Another Believer, Thank you for participating our study! It's about the time to send you another batch of recommendations, but I wonder if it is possible to postpone it? We are publicizing our study. There would be a new group of participants joining soon hopefully. I wonder do you mind receiving recommendations maybe one week later, so that I can send recommendations to you with the new participants together? Thank you! Bobo.03 (talk) 23:03, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem. I have plenty of ongoing tasks to occupy my time at the moment. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:31, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Paul Abrahamian


A tag has been placed on Paul Abrahamian requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a real person or group of people, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. CelenaSkaggs (talk) 21:24, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
 * No need to delete. Just redirect. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:47, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Possibly of interest
Dallas, Texas, removes R. E. Lee statue by UO Pioneer sculptor. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:16, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Funny, I just suggested this and made a reminder to myself at Talk:Removal of Confederate monuments and memorials (with this diff). --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:20, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ I've created a stub at Robert E. Lee (Proctor). --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:36, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * It is quite beautiful--shame it is so divisive. What is it made of?Zigzig20s (talk) 17:14, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Not sure. I assume bronze, but more research is needed. I just had time to create the stub, for now. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:20, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * According to Wildlife and Western Heroes: Alexander Phimister Proctor, Sculptor, it is bronze. Carptrash (talk) 17:26, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for confirming. I've already added a bronze category and medium to the infobox, if you're able to add the source as an inline citation. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:31, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

When you are doing "medium" in the info box or elsewhere there is no reason to include the word "sculpture." A definition is "medium refers to the materials that are used to create a work of art." So it's sort of redundant.Carptrash (talk) 17:47, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, feel free to pipe "Bronze sculpture" to "Bronze" where you see fit. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:05, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, per documentation at Template:Infobox artwork, "bronze sculpture" seems appropriate (see "medium" under "Parameters"). --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:10, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I suppose as opposed to "Water color painting", or "oil painting" or "stone sculpture" or "what ever".  I'm thinking, "It's an article about a sculpture so . . . ." but that's what I get for thinking, I get to be wrong. Carptrash (talk) 18:58, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * PS, I did just post a question at Template talk:Infobox artwork, it will be interesting to see what, if any, reply is forthcoming. Carptrash (talk) 19:06, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Great! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:08, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
 * If you can find out when it was dedicated (at least the month), I can look for more RS on Newspapers.com. I've just tried to do a search for "Robert E. Lee" in Texas in 1936, but too many irrelevant matches come up.Zigzig20s (talk) 10:29, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Searching "Robert E. Lee"+"Proctor" may be your best bet. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:12, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Dedicated June 13, 1936 - FDR was there. - Carptrash
 * Thanks for confirming! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:03, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

This is an attempt at new technology for me - never my strong point -. This is from Proctor's autobiography. I found the date June 13th elsewhere, this seems to confirm the 12th. [url=https://postimg.org/image/xcbl0bket/][img]https://s26.postimg.org/xcbl0bket/Lee_statue_in_Austin.jpg[/img][/url] Wish us all luck, Carptrash (talk) 16:57, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Mount Calvary Lutheran Church (Beverly Hills, California)
Do you think this may be notable on architectural grounds please?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:44, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The current article is completely inappropriately sourced. You'll need to show evidence of notability using secondary sourcing, not Google Maps or the church's website. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:46, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I know. I probably started it as a stub and got distracted by another article... Want to help please?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:48, 17 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I am working on other articles, but thanks for asking. Sometimes I post requests for help at WikiProject talk pages to see if anyone is interested. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:54, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

I am a little annoyed
to discover that, after I added sites in Iowa to the List of Union Civil War monuments and memorials, places I'd visited and photographed, you'd added Citation Needed to them all. This after I have tracked down citations for other projects of yours. Are you now going to put a cit needed tag on everything on that list, or is it just the ones I add? Yes, I am in a sh***y mood. But have not been drinking. Carptrash (talk) 21:24, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I add citation needed tags to articles all the time, and I didn't even know you added these entries, so please don't take my actions personally. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:53, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * : Sometimes when I am in a foul mood, I find it best (sometimes in retrospect) to take a break from editing Wikipedia. I have fixed a couple of your citations. If you rest and come back, you might even be able to spell "Elkader" (I have made much worse mistakes!). See you in a while! – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:15, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Carptrash: If there is no RS, it's WP:OR. I sympathize because I know a lot of monuments and memorials are not covered in RS--but please don't delete content clearly backed by RS like the only Confederate marker in Wyoming from List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America! Now we have to spend time debating whether it should be restored or not, even though RS should overrule any "concern" one might have! Other editors may become "a little annoyed", too.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:17, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I have returned the Wyoming headstone. Please explain on that talk page why you believe this headstone should be listed and whether all the other should/should not be.  I apologize for not pinging you, as you know traffic on that page makes that difficult. My real concentration is trying to produce a Union chart like the CSA one that is so debated. I've got about a thousand graphed, with about 2 thousand to go. Perhaps I will use that as my wikibreak? Carptrash (talk) 15:40, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't mind editors using my talk page to communicate with one another, but I recommend discussing specific articles on their respective talk pages, so other folks can participate and the discussions are documented. Thanks! Collapsing this section for now, but feel free to start another if needed. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:43, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Four Southern Poets Monument in Augusta, Georgia
Hi again. Would you be interested in creating the Four Southern Poets Monument in Augusta, Georgia please? See this for example. Once I have scheduled my workweek ahead, I will create an article about the donor's husband.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:42, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually the donor's husband will probably take me longer. But creating this monument would still be nice!Zigzig20s (talk) 14:01, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm working on some other projects, but I'll see what I can do. BTW, the subject is also known as "Monuments to Southern Poets", per this source. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Expansion is needed, but I went ahead and created a stub real quick to get the ball rolling. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:06, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:41, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I've added a bit more. I can't find the sculptor.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:00, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * That's because there is no sculpture on the monument. Carptrash (talk) 21:24, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I've call carved, shaped, and stacked granite a sculpture. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:33, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Carptrash: I don't see it in the link you used as an RS?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:38, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * "RS" is reference? You mean a reference for my opinion that there is no sculpture on it? Probably the Smithsonian SIRIS inventory, but any picture of the monument will do. I think (opinion) this is it, call this sculpture if you like.  I don't.Carptrash (talk) 16:54, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Good point. Hopefully someone will take a picture soon...Zigzig20s (talk) 17:16, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind, the monument was surveyed by Save Outdoor Sculpture. I see your point, but I think many people would consider this a sculpture. Further discussion about whether or not this article should have sculpture-related categories and WikiProject banners should take place on the article's talk page. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:26, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I know about the SOS survey, I was a part of it. Carptrash (talk) 17:44, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Awesome! I use the Smithsonian SOS database all the time. Super helpful, though not always 100% accurate. I just mentioned this in the context of whether or not the monument was a sculpture. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:49, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

FYI, just created Tennessee Confederate Women's Monument "under construction"...Zigzig20s (talk) 18:11, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * There may be another name because I can't find more matches about the dedication on Newspapers.com, which is unusual for these kinds of stories.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Trump Unity Bridge for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Trump Unity Bridge is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Trump Unity Bridge until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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 * Thanks for giving this article time to develop... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:14, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I could see this coming as soon as it hit the WP:WPUS50 list. So I did some prelim research to make sure there were RSes. I think it'll be good. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:28, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for doing some research before casting your vote. Can't say all AfD participants do the same. And I'd say the article should be safe, too, except I've seen articles about other notable topics deleted, which I then had to fight to rescue. Hoping I don't have to do that again here, and I'm trying to update the timeline to show other appearances and offer more sources. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:30, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

One people under one God
When it comes to the 2016 elections, you have more experience than I do with choosing article topics and titles that stick. I want to start something like talking about the phrase "One people under one God saluting one flag" that candidate Trump used during election season (I mentioned it at the Trump Bridge talkpage). Do you think it would be better to try to fit it into one of the existing articles? I have about nine fifteen sources that I feel are really good which you can see here. What do you think? ☆ Bri (talk) 18:09, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd say it's worth moving into the main space and seeing what happens. I'd also say expect an AfD nomination, since most Trump-related articles seem to get thrown into that pipeline. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:36, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay here goes. My opinion is outright deletion would be wildly inappropriate with this many hih quality sources. But merging would be awkward too, also partly because of the number of sources. ☆ Bri (talk) 23:39, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Good luck! Fingers crossed, --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:41, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Spirit of the Confederacy
Alex ShihTalk 00:02, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * This was a good thing you started. Drmies (talk) 00:14, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Some editors weren't thrilled with the way I was creating many new stubs about Confederate monuments, but this is an example of what comes from planting those seeds. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:35, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Really? Well, I got no problem with it at all and I appreciate it. The local Robert E. Lee high school here might be renamed... Drmies (talk) 00:40, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:41, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Dear respected sir can you please teach me how to create an info section on right side of article where personal info is available? Please teach me to become a good Wikipedia editor like you. I will be very great full in this regard.Hide211 (talk) 04:50, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Tiny Hands for deletion
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Edith D. Pope
Edith D. Pope should probably have an article. There's a whole book about her, but for some reason not too many obituaries on Newspapers.com--just a few whose access is "restricted" as they are "extra matches". I still think we should create a stub. Are you in?Zigzig20s (talk) 21:53, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Feel free to create stubs of interest. You might also submit these sorts of requests to WikiProject Women, Women in Red, etc. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:54, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
 * OK...Zigzig20s (talk) 01:15, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Created a stub. Just so you know, she helped install Confederate monuments as a member of the UDC.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:45, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for creating a new stub! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:56, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Stub sorting
Hello Another Believer,

I noticed you marked an article as a stub using the stub template. Did you know that there are thousands of stub types that you can use to clarify what type of stub the article is? Properly categorizing stubs is important to the Wikipedia community because it helps various WikiProjects to identify articles that need expansion.

If you have questions about stub sorting, don't hesitate to ask! There is a wealth of stub information on the stub sorting WikiProject, and hundreds of stub sorters. Thanks!-- I dream of horses If you reply here, please ping me by adding to your message (talk to me) (My edits) @  04:49, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:10, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

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Category:Statues of Presidents of the United States
It seems to me that the listing at Category:Statues of Presidents of the United States really should be by the President's last name. This would mean changing the Defaultsorts to things like Garfield, James A. Memorial or maybe, Garfield, James A Garfield Memorial., however we'd like it to show up. . Most of these articles don't seem to have a defaultsort, but I am sure I have not thought out all the possible ramifications of doing this so am wondering what you think. Or do you feel it's okay the way it is? I'd like to see all the Garfields together, but maybe that is just me. Carptrash (talk) 00:45, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, sorting by last name would be helpful, and DEFAULTSORT is probably the best option. I'll try to keep this in mind when creating new stubs, and I've worked to make Category:National Statuary Hall Collection sorted by last name. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:48, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * So we are agreed? At least until someone come up screaming, "You've just ruined my last 6 months worth of edits" or some such thing. I'm going with the "Garfield, James A Garfield Memorial" option, Last name and then the title of the monument.  We'll figure out the Roosevelts when we gt there. Carptrash (talk) 00:51, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Um, I admit, I tend not to use DEFAULTSORT and just sort for each category (example: ), but I assume most people are ok using DEFAULTSORT for articles named after people. --- Another Believer  ( Talk ) 00:53, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I didn't really know that your way was an option, but I've done these, I guess it doesn't really matter how it's done as long as we are okay with how it's coming out. Which seems to be all right. Carptrash (talk) 01:20, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm having to correct the formatting on some of these, but editors will sort this out eventually. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:23, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, I have to change my mind here. I am not sure we should be using DEFAULTSORT, now that I think about it. This makes the page sort by last name in ALL categories on the page, which may not be necessary. I think we should sort the way I described above. See some of the articles in Category:National Statuary Hall Collection for examples of how to sort by last name. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:25, 27 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the two new categories, the statues of U.S. presidents and the Statuary Hall collection, both logical categories to have on Wikipedia and each informative and interesting. Nice work. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:02, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Carptash and I are still plugging away at Talk:National Statuary Hall Collection, slowly but surely, to create stubs for all state statues in the collection. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:07, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * A lot of statues and research to go on that predominately red-linked list, quite the project. Not one I feel a pull toward, but very worthwhile. Such a major task that I hope you both only work on them when it's fun. Your statue project will fill in a good deal of history for readers, could be linked in many places, and researchers will eventually grab much of it as 'background research' and write a book. That's what I expect from a category like 'Dogs in art' (and congrats on the save of the Titian/dogs category), someone to use it as an already-compiled start-of-a-list for the foundation of a really good book (although I hope anyone doing that knows that there are still a large percentage of dogs-in-art pages not yet represented with full articles on Wikipedia). I wish more people knew how fun it is to "work" on Wikipedia, which is still young enough to have plenty of room to roam and be surprised at what has or hasn't been done. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:24, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

I thought that I understood how to do the Presidential statues category thing, but no. There is a section (or maybe the whole article) of Fountain of the Centaurs that needs to be included in the Thomas Jefferson section, but my attempt failed. Can you please take a look at it? Also I am about to invade another of the Jeffersons with an addition that we might need to talk about. Probably tomorrow. Carptrash (talk) 02:59, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Your sort command was correct. When I viewed the category, I saw "Fountain of the Centaurs" under "J" for "Jefferson". However, I removed this command from the article because the article's title doesn't mention Jefferson at all. I think you should only sort by last name for articles referencing the person's name. Does that make sense? In other words, I understand you want to group all Jefferson depictions, but someone viewing the Presidential statues category would have no idea why Fountain of the Centaurs appears under "J". --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:16, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, might be time to consider creating Category:Statues of Thomas Jefferson. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:39, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I've had many of those same thoughts, but as often is the case, was bold. Not always the best policy.  The Jefferson category for sure.  I am working on the Bitter Jefferson, waiting to hear from some librarians in Portland, but eventually the "Louisiana Purchase" panel at the Centaurs fountain will have its own article.  At that point I'll return it to the Jefferson category. Searching for Jefferson statues is somewhat complicated with the deluge of "Jefferson Davis" replies.  Oh well. Carptrash (talk) 16:15, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

I am wondering
why you changed the picture in the Henry Mower Rice (Triebel) article? The one there is used in several other places and it seemed that some variety was in order. Also the Smithsonian has just changed the dedication date on the Thomas Jefferson (Bitter) statue in Portland. Carptrash (talk) 00:38, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh! I thought the image was of higher quality and just assumed maybe you didn't know there was more than one image of the subject at Commons. But I don't feel strongly, so I'm fine reverting my change. And thanks for the note re: Jefferson. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:08, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Why is a citation needed tag
by the dedication date for Po'pay (Fragua) when I posted my dedication program which has the date clearly printed on it? That is why I posted that and removed the tag. Should I add ref Dedication Program by the date ? Carptrash (talk) 02:45, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Information at Wikipedia needs to be verifiable by reliable secondary sourcing. Appropriate sourcing might be a newspaper article confirming the dedication date, in the form of an inline citation, otherwise readers may not be easily able to tell where the information came from. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:14, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

I discovered
that Deborah Fellows, author of our Barry Goldwater (Fellows) statue has a studio with her husband about 3 or 4 hours from me so I am going to visit sometime after Christmas and should get an article together shortly thereafter. I have not had a Wikipedia Road Trip (WRT) for a while and am looking forward to it. I hope to be able to spend a night, maybe two in Tucson where I have a nephew to sort of break up my driving and also allow me to visit the infamous Pancho Villa equestrian statue there. I had to tell someone. Carptrash (talk) 19:47, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * PS I will leave the Wade Hampton picture to you since you do it so much better. Carptrash (talk) 19:48, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Sounds fun! I look forward to seeing what you put together based on your visit. Happy holidays! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:52, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * My last local (in AZ a few hours drive is considered to be local) AZ artist was John Henry Waddell, which was in 2004. My goodness, Tempus fugit. Carptrash (talk) 19:55, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Whooops, I started the article in 2004 but visited him in 2007. Still, a decade. Carptrash (talk) 19:59, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Women in Red/The World Contest
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WikiProject Women in Red/The World Contest
Hi. Thankyou for your participation in the challenge series or/and contests. In November The Women in Red World Contest is being held to try to produce new articles for as many countries worldwide and occupations as possible. There will be over $4000 in prizes to win, including Amazon vouchers and paid subscriptions. If this would appeal to you and you think you'd be interested in contributing new articles on women during this month for your region or wherever please sign up in the participants section. The articles done may also count towards the ongoing challenge. If you're not interested in prize money yourself but are willing to participate and raise money to buy books about women for others to use, this is also fine. Help would also be appreciated in drawing up the lists of missing articles. If you think of any missing articles please add them to the sub lists by continent at Missing articles. Thankyou, and if taking part, good luck!♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:52, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Reported some odd editing
FYI, since you basically co-created this, maybe you want to know I filed on Ricardo Baca. ☆ Bri (talk) 22:49, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I went ahead and restored to remove all the unsourced content. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:51, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow, quick! Not sure I agree with this description either but I'm not going to make a thing about every change.
 * Do you remember having NPOV issues with other articles? I think there was a Southwestern attorney but don't recall the article title. Oh, also these two you deleted from the list had been created by an undisclosed paid-editing sockfarm. ☆ Bri (talk) 23:46, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't remember there being other COI issue, nor a Southwestern attorney. But would they be listed at WP:420? Thanks for the heads up re: the deleted WP:420 articles -- I just assumed they were deemed non-notable post-creation. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:54, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Think I found it. Articles for deletion/Aaron Herzberg. I believe now that it was created a few days before the article drive began. ☆ Bri (talk) 03:23, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of South Kensington crash


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Proposed deletion of Me too (phrase)


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Nomination of Me Too (hashtag) for deletion
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 * Thank you, and Happy Halloween! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:37, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Category:Sculptures of African-Americans
Hello. I was wondering if you thought we should create Category:Sculptures of African-Americans, and if so, which articles we could add please? Surely there must be at least some?Zigzig20s (talk) 16:53, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey! Instead of creating a category for the sake of creating one, we should first identify the parent article(s). Would Category:Art depicting people and Category:Sculptures by subject be the parent categories? I'm trying to find an appropriately subcategory in Category:African-American society. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:35, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah! Seems User:Carptrash beat me/us to the punch. I'll try to help populate the category. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:36, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Category:Black people in art already existed, though its name is somewhat ambiguous to me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:18, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * That one includes paintings though.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:19, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind, black and African-American are not the same. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:33, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Suggest that it include one more new category for sculptures and busts of Martin Luther King Jr. ☆ Bri (talk) 02:27, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * So, Category:Sculptures of Martin Luther King Jr. as a subcategory of Category:Cultural depictions of Martin Luther King Jr. and Category:Works about Martin Luther King Jr.? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:48, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * That looks about riht. I know it gets a little intricate, but that is what happens to the figures about whom a great deal has been expressed. ☆ Bri (talk) 03:16, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:31, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * There are more African Americans in sculpture - those pieces just don't have articles. Yet.  I saw something about this and thought that there already was a category, so when I went to add to it, it appears that I started it. Oh well, Carptrash (talk) 05:48, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Whitefoord Russell Cole
Hi again. Are you interested in expanding this article (especially the "career" section) if I send you the Filson RS? I can add you as a co-editor for the DYK if you do.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:07, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I am not interested in taking on this task. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:14, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * His mother was the donor behind the Four Southern Poets Monument, and he attended the dedication!Zigzig20s (talk) 19:17, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Just not the sort of article I prefer to spend my time on. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:27, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm stumped
Okay, I started this and now am not sure what to do with it. At first I thought it would be fodder for the urban legends list, but I think it'd get AfD'd or something. So: fold into Chelsea Clinton? Or United States presidential election, 2016? Hmmm... ? ☆ Bri (talk) 01:07, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure this is independently notable, so maybe just post a note on the Chelsea Clinton talk page asking if this should be mentioned somehow? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:10, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * A subsection on Chelsea Clinton's page (or even a few lines).Zigzig20s (talk) 02:12, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice AB and Zigzig20s. I'll rev this up tomorrow, probably. ☆ Bri (talk) 02:36, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Posted here. I was surprised that there wasn't already a section in her bio for the 2016 campaign. Standing by for extreme blowback. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:48, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2017 November newsletter: Final results
The final round of the 2017 WikiCup is over. Congratulations to the 2017 WikiCup top three finalists:
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In addition to recognizing the achievements of the top finishers and everyone who worked hard to make it to the final round, we also want to recognize those participants who were most productive in each of the WikiCup scoring categories:
 * Featured Article – Cas Liber (actually a two-way tie with themselves for an astonishing five FAs in R2 and R4).
 * Good Article – Adityavagarwal had 14 GAs promoted in R5.
 * Featured List – and  both produced 2 FLs in R2
 * Featured Pictures – improved an image to FP status in R5, the only FP this year.
 * Featured Topic – has the only FT of the Cup in R3.
 * Good Topic – Four different editors created a GT in R2, R3 and R4.
 * Did You Know – Adityavagarwal had 22 DYKs on the main page in R5.
 * In The News – had 14 ITN on the main page in R2.
 * Good Article Review – completed 31 GARs in R1.

Over the course of the 2017 WikiCup the following content was added or improved on Wikipedia: 51 Featured Articles, 292 Good Articles, 18 Featured Lists, 1 Featured Picture, 1 Featured Topics, 4 Good Topics, around 400 Did You Knows, 75 In The News, and 442 Good Article Reviews. Thank you to all the competitors for your hard work and what you have done to improve Wikipedia.

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WikiCup 2018
So the 2017 WikiCup has come to an end. Congratulations to the winner, to the other finalists and to all those who took part. 177 contestants signed up, more than usual, but not all of them submitted entries in the first round. Were editors attracted by the cash prizes offered for the first time this year, or were these irrelevant? Do the rules and scoring need changing for the 2018 WikiCup? If you have a view on these or other matters, why not join in the WikiCup discussion about next year's contest? , and. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:59, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Warren-Guild-Simmons House
Did you see my note on the NRHP WP talkpage?Zigzig20s (talk) 05:01, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, but I am not interested in addressing the article's problems at the moment. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:07, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Lots of beautiful mansions in Jackson but I don't think they would like my tiara!Zigzig20s (talk) 05:16, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Grammy lists
Hi, I've noticed that many of the Grammy lists you helped become featured years ago don't have scope rows and cols that are required per MOS:ACCESS. I just wanted to let you know I've been adding them in so they're up to standard. Happy editing! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 01:23, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've been seeing your work in my watchlist. Thanks for your help improving these lists, many of which were promoted years ago. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:13, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Assessment for Houston-related article
Hi Another Believer:

I created JW Marriott Downtown Houston in December of 2014. You assigned it to Houston Wikiproject in January 2015, but it has not been rated yet. I have a request for assistance, if you don't mind. Wikipedia seems to be running the assessment and reassessment processes through the Wikiprojects. I did not see a place to request assessment and reassessment through the Wikiproject Houston. I have been editing some Houston-related articles, and many of these warrant a reassessment. Perhaps I have misunderstood these processes. If it is not too much trouble, would you mind instructing me on this? Thanks, Oldsanfelipe (talk) 09:06, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your work on so many Houston-related articles. I see your user name on Wikipedia often. To be honest, you shouldn't overthink the assessment ratings or avoid assessing your own articles. I rarely worry about differentiating between Start-class, C-class, and B-class. Stubs are easy to identify. Most of the time I just rate articles as Start-class, then promote to Good article status after a successful review. The differences between Start, C, and B can be a bit subjective. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:58, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for stepping in.


 * Many of the articles I have worked on will never be GA. JW Marriott Downtown Houston is one example. There is not enough secondary literature about the subject to tell a comprehensive story. Even including biographical material about SF Carter would not get it there. In other cases, I just don't know enough about the subject to make the article that much better on my own.


 * Jesse H. Jones is an article that has potential for GA and beyond. I have been working on it, but there are still gaps in the narrative, verification of sources, and formatting issues before it warrants a GA. An article I just created, Streckfus Steamers, has GA-potential. Much of it is based on a book called Jazz on the River. I was borrowing a library copy, and I will need to check it out again. There are so many details that I am not sure that I am remembering correctly. cheers, Oldsanfelipe (talk) 22:33, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

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Portland Loo
Interested in collaboration on Portland Loo? I've just started to collect sources. It's an urban thing created in Portland, if you don't know. ☆ Bri (talk) 21:20, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure! I didn't know the Loo was notable enough for an article, but after doing a quick Google search, I'd say there's enough coverage. Do you want to create the initial stub? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:23, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Started. ☆ Bri (talk) 22:37, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

2017 Kermanshah earthquake
Why did you remove the photos, did they violate something?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 16:11, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Images should be displayed as thumbs within the article's prose, and given context, not as standalone galleries. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:23, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree, especially when there are just two images. Galleries are oft misused. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:10, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Category:The Real Housewives of Atlanta cast members has been nominated for discussion
Category:The Real Housewives of Atlanta cast members, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- wooden superman  15:54, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Category:The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills cast members has been nominated for discussion
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Category:The Real Housewives of New Jersey cast members has been nominated for discussion
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Category:The Real Housewives of New York City cast members has been nominated for discussion
Category:The Real Housewives of New York City cast members, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- wooden superman  15:55, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Category:The Real Housewives of Orange County cast members has been nominated for discussion
Category:The Real Housewives of Orange County cast members, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- wooden superman  15:55, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

You are fast
Thanks for the caption at the Shinn House. I know Portland, Oregon well. Cheers.&#32;Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:13, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem! Thanks for adding the image. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:15, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

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Invitation to join the Ten Year Society
Dear ,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Ten Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for ten years or more.

Best regards, ☆ Bri (talk) 16:01, 25 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I had forgotten about my anniversary. What a great 10 years! I've added the topicon and userbox to my profile page. Here's to the next ten! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:10, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

A page you started (Twelve Tales of Christmas) has been reviewed!
Thanks for creating Twelve Tales of Christmas, Another Believer!

Wikipedia editor Ajpolino just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2017). Administrator changes
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Oregon Psilocybin Society
FYI: Draft:Oregon Psilocybin Society ☆ Bri (talk) 21:28, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:00, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:You're the puppet


Hello, Another Believer. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "You're the puppet".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing.  T K  K ! bark with me! 23:22, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I'm fine with the page being deleted. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:46, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

John Wayne (song)
Hello:

The copy edit that you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article John Wayne (song) has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Good luck with the GAN.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 22:29, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:16, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Joanne (Lady Gaga song)
Hello Another Believer:

Sorry I did not get back to you right away with your request about Joanne (Lady Gaga song), I was away for several days. Meantime, I see one of the GOCE's most esteemed and experienced editors (who seems to stalk my talk page for some reason) has undertaken to have a look at it. I think you'll be pleased with their work. When they are done, I'll have a look through it myself as well. Always happy to help with your articles. Best, Twofingered Typist (talk) 22:14, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I stalk all sorts of people. Just trying to be helpful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:38, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, both! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:44, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Not a problem—you're my only stalker :) !}}

"Supercut" (song)

 * Thank you. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:44, 29 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:46, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

"The Louvre" (song)
Hello:

The copy edit that you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article "The Louvre" (song) has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Happy New Year!

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:41, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and happy new year! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:06, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Art Teacher
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The Art Teacher you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aoba47 -- Aoba47 (talk) 19:21, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Art Teacher
The article The Art Teacher you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:The Art Teacher for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aoba47 -- Aoba47 (talk) 23:01, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Art Teacher
The article The Art Teacher you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:The Art Teacher for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aoba47 -- Aoba47 (talk) 03:02, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Third Eye Shoppe
The article Third Eye Shoppe you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Third Eye Shoppe for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aoba47 -- Aoba47 (talk) 18:41, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

"Apple of Sodom"
Hi Another Believer, I seen that you're a huge fan of lots of different types of music! I have recently radically changed the article for "Apple of Sodom" by Marilyn Manson, a song about Fiona Apple. If I were to nominate it for GA status, would you be willing to review it? MagicatthemovieS - User talk:MagicatthemovieS 14:20, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey! I know I should do reviews to help reduce the backlog (and because I've requested so many myself), but I don't conduct Good article reviews. Honestly, I enjoy creating content much more than reviewing content submitted by others, and this is just how I prefer to spend my time contributing to Wikipedia. I appreciate the invitation, though. (Be prepared to wait -- an article I nominated for Good status eight months ago was just picked up for review, and likely only because I asked a specific editor for help.) I will, however, take a look at the article out of curiosity and to see if I can contribute. Thanks for all your work here! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:05, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Congrats on the article's promotion! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:30, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! MagicatthemovieS - User talk:MagicatthemovieS 14:20, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 25
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Royal Naval Division Memorial
Hiya, I wouldn't worry too much about making it look pretty at this point. I usually leave all that until I've finished the prose (I think you've seen at least a few of my previous war memorial articles). Not that I want to put you off; you're very welcome, I just wouldn't want you to spend ages prettyfying it only to see that the article has completely changed! I'm also contemplating moving it to Royal Naval Division War Memorial, which is the name Historic England use and is consistent with other articles. Do you have any strong feelings about that? Best, <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 18:06, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up! Glad to see you working on the article, and you're welcome to move as you see fit. Thanks again! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:19, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Right. It's unlikely to change drastically now. I need to add a lead, a bit more background on the RND, I need to track down a source for Asquith's connection to Lutyens (cf. Mells War Memorial, which Asquith unveiled and which has his brother's name on it), and I need to go through some of the more general books on war memorials and the biographies of Lutyens (mostly just to pad out the bibliography and demonstrate that it's a "representative survey of the relevant literature"). It would be nice if I could find a way to mention the Lancashire Fusiliers War Memorial (and mention the RND in that article) as both fought at Gallipoli and both have Lutyens memorials, though the Lancashire Fusiliers were under the 29th Division. I've never seen a war memorial covered in so much detail besides the Cenotaph! <b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b> &#124; <span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts? 02:37, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 18 December 2017
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Well, I'm Confused
Good Morning, Mr. Another Believer, I am grateful you thanked me on my 2nd Ave edit, I thought it was helpful. However, I found it hypocritical that my work was reversed afterwards. I'm willing to not think much of this, but this irony goes against every social convention I know of, so I'm Confused.

May you please explain? Zanygenius (talk) 15:58, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, at first I was pleased to see work done on the article, but then I was confused by all the zeros and "N/A"s. Also, I clicked on the coordinates for the supposed north end of the street, which were incorrect. After viewing your edit history, I saw you've made few edits (at least under this account), so to be honest, I assumed maybe you were just messing with the article and not making the most constructive edits. If you'd like to discuss the article further, I invite you over to Talk:2nd Avenue (Portland, Oregon). Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:05, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, the junctions. I had limited time, and was planning to go back in and fix them. But for now I'll leave it alone. Same applies to coordinates. Alright, have a good day!

Zanygenius (talk) 16:24, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * If you have improvements to make to the article, by all means, but maybe work on the talk page until your edits are "complete", otherwise they may be interpreted as non-constructive. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:27, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
<div style="border-style:solid; border-radius: 32px; border-color:#009600; background: #FFFBC4; border-width:8px; text-align:center; padding:7px; height:210px;" class="plainlinks"> Merry Christmas !!

Hi, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year,

Thanks for all your help and contributions on the 'pedia! ,

– Davey 2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 13:20, 23 December 2017 (UTC) Thank you very much! Merry Christmas to you, too! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:11, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Holiday Greetings

 * Thank you, and happy holidays to you, too! Thanks, again, for all the articles you're reviewed for me. :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:25, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy Festivus!

 * Happy Festivus, and Happy New Year! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:26, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

 * Thank you so much. Happy holidays to you and your family as well. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:26, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Seasons' Greetings
...to you and yours, from Canada's Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:03, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and same to you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:30, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

 * Thank you, and Merry Christmas to you, too! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:24, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors December 2017 News
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Archive is lost
"No pages link to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cannabis/420 Collaboration/2017" is currently reported. You created the archive, did you forget to link to it somewhere? ☆ Bri (talk) 21:41, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I just added the link to WikiProject Cannabis/420 Collaboration and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cannabis/420 Collaboration. Does that do the trick? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:48, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure. The reason I was looking for it is I had stashed a link to Small's book (no pun intended). Maybe we should have a section explicitly linking books and other resources for editors ☆ Bri (talk) 21:50, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll create a Resources page. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:51, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Munchie Meal
Available in three California Jack in the Box locations for ... guess the price ... $4.20 Bloomberg via The CannabistFresno BeeThe Stranger even the mainstream Food & Wine magazine covered it ... would make an interesting blurb somewhere ☆ Bri (talk) 05:42, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Hah! Perhaps an article on Cannabis advertising/Cannabis marketing? Might also be worth mentioning in the 4/20 and/or Cannabis in California articles. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 07:41, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd love to do a bit on advertising in the legalized states if we can do it w/o crossing into OR. The newsweeklies like The Stranger are one thing, but the fact that there are sign spinners and billboards in affluent Eastside communities (and on the Puyallup res adjacent to I-5, have you noticed?) and two-page Chamber of Commerce type ads for tourists in the middle of the upscale Seattle Met is fascinating to me. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:23, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Cannabis advertising resources
Some resources above. I've used Harris-Bricken's law blog before. Tobacco advertising could give us some ideas on where to go with an article. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:30, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Marijuana Advertising: Room to Maneuver (In Oregon, At Least), Harris-Bricken Law
 * WAC administrative law covering advertising in Washington
 * WSLCB advertising FAQ
 * Newspapers with marijuana ads can't be mailed, feds warn The Oregonian – this explains why the newsweeklies dominate
 * State-by-State Guide to Cannabis Advertising Regulations, Leafly, 2015
 * Yes, I think Tobacco advertising is helpful. Perhaps you should throw these links over to Draft:Cannabis advertising so they don't get lost in my talk page archives? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:32, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Can you weigh in at Talk:History_of_cannabis?
Should take you just a quick sec, would be appreciated, thanks! Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 10:45, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

New Year's resolution: Write more articles for Women in Red!
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Articles for Creation Reviewing

 * Thanks for the invite. I try to review drafts now and then. I've found AfC regulars are way too strict and reject appropriate drafts sometimes, which is unfortunate. Drafts shouldn't have to be perfect to enter the main space... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:30, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I totally agree with you! AfC needs more reviewers with exactly that attitude. Common mistakes are unfortunately far too common. Thank you for your help. —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)  21:20, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:43, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

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