User talk:Asilvering

Question from HomerHossa (07:30, 20 June 2024)
Hello yesterday I saw a film on Belgian tv by a director named Alireza Khatami cf. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3648488/

Remarkably, this director isn't on Wikipedia yet. So I thought I'd make a concise article based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Van_Looy

Core content : - name - very succinct filmography - link to imdb

This as a platform "so there is something" which others can improve on.

Normal procedure would be, I assume ? (1) Doublecheck "behind the curtains" if there really is no article published or in the making. (How?) (2) Copy to draft the Van Looy article and do an overhaul, not forgetting to erase irrelevant data. (Don't know if this is possible. It is how it goes on Discogs.) (3) Preview, submit for review. (Since I'm a newbee.) (4) See it published, hopefully.

My ambition is not to make articles. My ambition is to quickly plug the hole. So if another person is already making a stub or has been doing so, I'll go back to my other work.

Thanks for your advice. --HomerHossa (talk) 07:30, 20 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @HomerHossa, I've done step 1 for you - we don't have an article on him, or a draft-in-progress, so you're good to go. You can start a new draft by using the WP:WIZARD. This will automatically submit your draft for review when you're done.
 * You will need to show that Khatami meets the notability guidelines set out at WP:GNG. These are complicated, and since your aim is just to start up a stub for this one director, I think it's probably not worth your time to read through all that to understand them. So here is some direct advice for getting this through review:
 * make sure you wikilink to Terrestrial Verses, which we have an article on already.
 * you can use IMDB as an external link at the end of the article (see the article on Terrestrial Verses for an example), but don't use it for any information about Khatami, since it's an unreliable source (see WP:RS and WP:IMDB if you want to read more)
 * cite this review on Oblivion Verses somewhere in the article; then, find at least one other review like that (by a newspaper/magazine, not a blog, rotten tomatoes, etc) and cite that as well
 * use at least one piece of information from this article and cite it somewhere
 * Any other references you want to add would be great! But if you follow these steps that should clearly meet the bare minimum that will get it through review. I can explain any of this further if you'd like to know more. Good luck! And thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. -- asilvering (talk) 04:28, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

GA July backlog drive
Hi, I remember you had intended to run a backlog drive in July. Is that still going ahead? &#126;~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:55, 21 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @AirshipJungleman29 Yes! June has been seriously hectic for me but I finally get to come up for air in the next week and will devote some time to scaring up some potential newbies for it and putting together the drive page and some rules. I'll post some info, calls for collaboration, etc very soon, on the GA talk page and on discord (I figure discord is a better place to get things moving quickly, organiztion-wise). -- asilvering (talk) 04:10, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from UnsungHistory (16:52, 23 June 2024)
how to put a citation in an info box --UnsungHistory (talk) 16:52, 23 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @UnsungHistory, it's a bit finicky in visual editor I'm afraid, so the simplest way is to use the source editor, where you can add it just like you'd add any other reference. WP:REFB has instructions for that. -- asilvering (talk) 04:35, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Watchlist notice for backlog drive
Hey asilvering, I just wanted to remind you to request a watchlist notice at MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-messages for the upcoming GAN backlog drive that you're hosting. Simply make a request there with your requested text and state the duration for which you'd like the text to run, and an admin will process your request. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reminder! I was holding off until I'd put up the extended guidelines. They're up now, so time to send out the message. -- asilvering (talk) 18:52, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Teddy gray on Talk:April 13 (15:59, 26 June 2024)
Great greetings to you, before I continue, I really wish you wellness, I have a question, why whenever there's a passing object that so strange to belong to earth- why such news are never recorded even if objects falls to earth and found, it scean is always cleaned quickly, people may shear incident on Media but such story's flys away so quickly with the wind????! Another question is why don't we change school teachings, sit down In a world meeting create new lessons for schools, cause we all agree that most things we were taught in school doesn't help the human conditions we lean numbers, letters and language but the rest is just a weast of our time and the generation to come, schools should teach the very important things of life kids should learn about individual trees and it works, all trees, flowers, herbs should be known at an early age, cause such things is life itself and we can imperfect the body and mind since all trees,herbs and so on helps the body to truly connect with the universe, people pass tress as if it statues not knowing it perporses it a shame, whenever I visit my granny from the farm, I'm always great full she knows everything about herbs, long time ago at a young age I asked her to make me strong and feared cause children at my school were sometimes pushing me around, and she said I should prepare to wake up early to search for such, we found it, not one but 3 individual herbs at least if can remember, I drank the 2letra warm water with herbs and throw up the dirt the other one I was supposed to steam with and I did, I felt at ease I felt like people were depending on me, I reserved major respect and love the only problem i had powerful hands e.g if we had to do high 5 you'll think I was really trying to hurt you,..it works doesn't last more then 4 months and you can't go to the ocean if using such herbs the ocean wash it away automatically, time passed another metter was the alcohol abuse and smoke addiction I revisted and told my granny..? --Teddy gray (talk) 15:59, 26 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @Teddy gray, I'm afraid I'm only here to answer questions about editing wikipedia. But you may be interested in our articles on Alternative education and Impact event. -- asilvering (talk) 18:51, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from JustaFictionalGoogologist (18:16, 26 June 2024)
Hello, I'm a kid on Wikipedia that can write pretty good and loves fictional Numbers and notations, by the way how do I make a page? --JustaFictionalGoogologist (talk) 18:16, 26 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Welcome to wikipedia, @JustaFictionalGoogologist! You can find advice about writing articles at WP:FIRST. Since you call yourself a "kid", I'm also going to direct you to WP:YOUNG - please read that first, and if you're under 13, please also make sure your parents read it. Good luck! -- asilvering (talk) 18:44, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Unsung history June 26 2024
is the saba islander (https://thesabaislander.com/)a reliable source for wikipedia standards? UnsungHistory (talk) 03:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * That's a tough one. WP:BLOG explains when you can use blog sources: in short, not often. However, his biography on that website shows that he has published books with major publishers (eg MacMillan), so you could track those down. His newspaper columns, maybe. But I expect they aren't online. -- asilvering (talk) 03:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 * To be more specific,in the article Island council (Netherlands Antilles),the statement "The latter three were until 1 April 1983[citation needed] governed by a single island council:",so the saba islander (https://thesabaislander.com/2013/04/01/aprl-1st-1983-april-1st-2013/ and https://thesabaislander.com/)support this statement,but I am unsure if I can cite it or not. UnsungHistory (talk) 01:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd expect that to be in some other source somewhere, but this is better than nothing, so what I would do here is add this source, remove the citation needed tag, but then add this one: Template:Better source needed. -- asilvering (talk) 01:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * ok thanks,by the way,how do i mark a conversation as "done"? UnsungHistory (talk) 19:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Do you mean this: Template:Archive top? Or are you just looking for an icon? There's a list of those at Template:Close. -- asilvering (talk) 01:32, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Maybe I saw something wrong,i could not find evidence it exists,or misunderstood Template:Unprod that is not what i meant UnsungHistory (talk) 19:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from DavidV156 (20:30, 27 June 2024)
how do i create a artist page for myself? what are the steps > --DavidV156 (talk) 20:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @DavidV156, I've left a welcome message on your talk page that has a bunch of helpful links in it on how to write wikipedia articles. Regarding writing one for yourself, though, I strongly suggest that you don't do that. Wikipedia takes conflicts of interest very seriously. What you can do, once you already have an article on yourself, is make edit requests for another, non-coi editor to perform. What name do you make your art under? -- asilvering (talk) 22:40, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

GAN stats you asked for
Here is a list of all editors who have a total of 1-4 GA reviews (over all time), and who have also completed at least one GA review in the last 24 months:

I'll be back with the other stat in a while. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:16, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Here it is.

Any questions, let me know. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Brilliant, thanks for both! -- asilvering (talk) 22:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red July 2024
--Lajmmoore (talk 14:26, 30 June 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Alfred von Martin moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to Alfred von Martin. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability and '''too many of the "references" are not references. Remove them or make them notes'''. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. UtherSRG (talk) 19:54, 30 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @UtherSRG, I'm the AfC reviewer who accepted this article. I disagree that it is unready for mainspace and firmly believe it will survive AfD, but in any case this is an improper draftification. -- asilvering (talk) 19:59, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Question from Holly Manthepa (19:55, 30 June 2024)
Hello, when was Wikipedia established and launched? --Holly Manthepa (talk) 19:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Holly Manthepa 2001. You might be interested in reading History of Wikipedia. -- asilvering (talk) 19:58, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

qustion
hi you made a change on a page i made and add this, Could you please explain why you think so? Regarding the first issue, I included many sources; maybe it was too many, but they provided sufficient support. As for the second issue, could you clarify why you found the tone unneutral in this article? Privetjournalist (talk) 22:19, 30 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Privetjournalist, there are phrases in here like "His mastery extends", "pioneering ability", and so on - these are really not very neutral terms. Please have a look at WP:WTW for some tips here. Regarding the sources, the tag says the sources are not reliable, not that there aren't enough of them. See WP:RS for info on what makes sources reliable. For example, I note that you have his biography on last.fm as a source. Last.fm isn't just an unreliable source, it's completely deprecated on wikipedia (using it actually should have triggered an edit filter for you, warning you not to use it). You can check sources against the list at WP:RSP if you have questions about any particular source. -- asilvering (talk) 04:34, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your assistance. As a relatively new contributor to Wikipedia, creating this article took a considerable amount of time and effort. I aimed to ensure it met all guidelines, so discovering it did not make the cut to the mainspace was quite disappointing. Regarding the neutrality issue, I often rephrased sentences from news articles, believing I was maintaining a neutral tone. I apologize if this was not the case. I will make the necessary corrections to ensure the content adheres to Wikipedia's neutrality standards. If you have any additional feedback or see other areas for improvement, I would greatly appreciate your input.
 * Thank you again for your help. Privetjournalist (talk) 08:07, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I noticed a whole section was removed, which detailed important information about his tech work and research. I believe this content is true, so I plan to reinstate it. I will ask other users to review it to ensure it meets Wikipedia's standards or I would appreciate your guidance on how to write this section better. Privetjournalist (talk) 08:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Regarding it did not make the cut to the mainspace, I want to reassure you that the article you wrote is still in mainspace. It will remain there unless a new page patroller draftifies it. The best way to avoid that happening is to improve the article as much as possible - the WP: links I gave you already should help you with that. If the article is draftified in the future, you can simply move it back to mainspace yourself, though of course you should try to fix whatever issue the new page patroller identified. (You can ask them whatever questions you have on their talk page, if the reasoning isn't clear to you.) -- asilvering (talk) 17:50, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Niomi derma (20:02, 1 July 2024)
How do I create citation? --Niomi derma (talk) 20:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Niomi derma (20:02, 1 July 2024) (2)
How do I create citation? --Niomi derma (talk) 20:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC)


 * @Niomi derma, WP:REFB should answer your questions. Let me know if you read that and are still stuck. -- asilvering (talk) 23:04, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

pl:Ubiory w Polsce
That draft is a translation of that article. The topic is 100% notable. Sources exist in Polish, although I don't see an in-deptnh monograph - but plenty of passing mentions:. This academic source calls the work "pioneering". Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 14:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I expect that the citations in the article are actually to secondary literature on the topic - the reference says Jan Matejko is the author, but judging by the sentences the footnotes are attached to, what we're actually looking at is the scholarly introduction to an edition of the work. My googling so far indicated it's probably by Edward Łepkowski, but I haven't managed to turn up a copy online yet, just used book sales. -- asilvering (talk) 19:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * A common error with such citations is when they actually quote a foreword or such by a reliable scholar, in an otherwise primary source book, but the person adding the cite did not bother to properly ID the chapter cited :( Can't be 100% sure without looking at the sources, of course. I do know a Polish Wikipedian who may be able to provide use with a scan of some pages or check contents inside, if you'd like, I can put you in touch with them. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 09:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Obianuju MacMoses (06:05, 10 July 2024)
Hello, am new here in wikipedia I want to know how to get started adding my profile --Obianuju MacMoses (talk) 06:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Welcome to wikipedia, @Obianuju MacMoses! If you mean your userpage, see WP:USER. You might also want to read WP:NOTFB. -- asilvering (talk) 11:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Question from Aiza.za.za (16:40, 10 July 2024)
hi! i am new to editing. how large are the edits i can make as a new editor? can i add new sections, or reorder existing sections? thank you so so much --Aiza.za.za (talk) 16:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Welcome to wikipedia, @Aiza.za.za! I'll drop some helpful links on your user talk page. There's no limit to the size or impact of your edits, technically speaking. However, if you're making a bunch of different changes, many editors prefer to make them in multiple steps. This way, if someone objects to one of the changes you made, but not the others, it's easier for them to revert just that change. Also, since there's no way to save your work other than by publishing it, if you're paranoid about losing what you've written, you'll want to publish in smaller chunks. Personally, if I'm rearranging sections on an article, I'll make an edit that is only that, and leave text changes for a subsequent edit. If I'm writing new text, I tend to stop and publish every paragraph or two. -- asilvering (talk) 17:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * thank you so much! this is super helpful. and thanks for the referrals to the wikiprojects! Aiza.za.za (talk) 18:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Vaskino, Mezhdurechensky District, Vologda Oblast
I’m curious why you closed it as keep when there was not a single policy-based argument to do so. Each of the “keep” articles merely claimed notability, but notability only suggest coverage, not a dedicated article. Qwirkle (talk) 05:27, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I explained why in the close notice: not a single editor was in favour of deletion, even after Liz vacated her previous keep close to give another week for people to chime in. If you think it should be merged into another article, try WP:RM. -- asilvering (talk) 06:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * er, WP:PM, that is. -- asilvering (talk) 06:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Yes, I read that. But this isn't supposed to be a vote, where "I like it" can be a valid reason, and that's pretty much what you saw there. Qwirkle (talk) 13:29, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Those were three separate editors finding your reasons for deletion unconvincing and/or unnecessary. Your argument here, and your attempt to overturn two separate keep closes, is more "I don't like it" than any of those were "I like it". -- asilvering (talk) 16:01, 13 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Not at all. The WP:NOPAGE concerns were simple left unaddressed, and the emphasis on "three separate editors" doesnt exactly scream out "!vote." Qwirkle (talk) 16:57, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Qwirkle, this is an example of one editor (that's you) disagreeing with the broader consensus formed by everyone else in a discussion, who found your WP:NOPAGE counterargument irrelevant or unpersuasive. If I closed it any other way, the other three editors would rightly object to that close as a supervote. The fact is that we do have these stubs everywhere, and that we do accept that they ought to exist if they meet the criteria at WP:GEOLAND. AfD arguments on this kind of place hinge around whether the place meets WP:GEOLAND or not. If you want to change that much broader consensus, you'd have to go to RfC with a better proposal. For what it's worth, I'm with you - I think these geoland stubs are useless at best and misleading or even false at worst. But I don't believe any !votes to that effect were going to come through in that AfD if it were relisted, given my understanding of how WP:GEOLAND works at AfD.
 * Personally, I suspect no one feels so passionately about "if it meets geoland, it should have a standalone article" that they would go around reverting bold merge-and-redirects into a central article like you sort-of-proposed in your nomination statement. The next time you find a cluster of nothing-stubs like these you might try that instead of AfD and see if that ends up with a more useful outcome. -- asilvering (talk) 20:37, 13 July 2024 (UTC)