User talk:Babydoll9799

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You seem to removing references to Merseyside and replacing them with Liverpool when these are not accurate can you explain you rational?--Kitchen Knife (talk) 18:31, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

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A565
You were quite right to change Bootle to Liverpool in this case. The road runs from the centre of Liverpool to Tarleton through Bootle and Southport. I must have missed that one... Peridon (talk) 19:03, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Merseyside to Liverpool
Hi, there isn't any issue regarding changing Merseyside to Liverpool, as a redirect is put in place to make sure all links to Vauxhall, Merseyside or Walton, Merseyside take to the user to the correct page. Regarding why it is done WP:PLACE states that any district that falls within a town of city should use to the form placename, town/city, when the district's title alone is not useable. Thus, any district in Liverpool that is currently using the form placename, Merseyside should ideally be at placename, Liverpool instead. Whilst there is nothing fundamentally wrong with how they were there needs to be some clear distinction between districts within a city and those which lie outside it (i.e Roby, Merseyside and Everton, Liverpool) --Daviessimo (talk) 16:03, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh I see what you mean. If it was left long enough I suspect there is probably a bot that runs around fixing those sort of links but I'll make sure if I change any others I'll edit that template as well. Cheers --Daviessimo (talk) 17:29, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give Brighton-le-Sands, Sefton a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Brighton-le-Sands, Merseyside. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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Merseyrail City Line
Hi, you appear to have created both Template:Merseyrail City Line and Template:City line navbox which seem to have identical purpose. Did you try to give one of them a different title by copying its content and pasting the same content into the other? This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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I suggest that their editing histories should be merged, see WP:CUTPASTE, and that the target should be Template:Merseyrail City Line, for consistency with Template:Merseyrail Wirral Line and Template:Merseyrail Northern Line. If you like, I'll raise the request for to process when he gets around to it. -- Red rose64 (talk) 14:14, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your information and help. I did try to copy and past the information i had used because i did a redirect when i really should have thought about it first. In the end i have a split and when i have just added some more stations it does not show up on the actual template, only on the navbox template (i am lost why this is happening).


 * If you can get this resolved i would be grateful, it would take an age for me to work it out myself. In the meantime, i will continue to update the stations that should have the City Line template, if this is ok? Babydoll9799 (talk) 14:37, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I assume it could just be merged? Babydoll9799 (talk) 14:41, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Merging page histories is a task that only an admin can perform (I'm not an admin); and Anthony Appleyard has the most experience at this. The end result will be that Template:City line navbox will become a redirect, and the true page name will be Template:Merseyrail City Line; the latter will carry the history for both template names. The page content will be exactly as it was following the most recent edit to either template.
 * You'll need to halt at some point, because it won't be possible for Anthony to work on a page that's undergoing active editing. He's logged in right now, and will probably be working until around 16:00, possibly later. So, when you come to a convenient point, leave a note here and I'll raise the request ASAP (I'm on until 16:00 today, then 19:30-22:00).
 * On a related note, shall I arrange for to be deleted? It seems to be a typo for  - category names, like all other page names, are case-sensitive so these are distinct pages. -- Red rose64 (talk) 14:53, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes that's fine i'll leave alone for now. Also the Catergory Merseyrail Template is a mistake so this can be deleted. Babydoll9799 (talk) 15:09, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Request now . -- Red rose64 (talk) 16:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. Can you help? Another user has taken offence to my edits (Kitchen Knife) and such is his nature has reported me as a sockpuppet. I don't know this term but i understand it to be negative. It is clearly connected to my Merseyrail edits. Just wondered if you had idea of what i could do. Babydoll9799 (talk) 17:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * See WP:SOCK. If you have been reported (which you have been, the case is at Sockpuppet investigations/Waterspaces), you should really have been notified. Since you haven't been notified, I don't know if it's a valid accusation or not. But don't rely on that opinion: I'm neither an admin nor an expert on such cases. -- Red rose64 (talk) 20:24, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * All done now. I've also made the style of Template:Merseyrail City Line consistent with Template:Merseyrail Northern Line. -- Red rose64 (talk) 12:02, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah that's brilliant, many thanks for your help on this and the other matter. Well done anywayBabydoll9799 13:31, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Just one question, i would have extended to template stations to say Wigan, and Warrington, as in the Merseyrail map. What do you think? It's not limited to the Merseyside boundary. Babydoll9799 13:45, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This is best discussed at Template talk:Merseyrail City Line so I've replied there. -- Red rose64 (talk) 15:49, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Sockpuppet
I have requested your account be investigated as a possible sockpuppet of User:Waterspaces, the investigation is here, Sockpuppet investigations/Waterspaces. I should have placed a notice here immediately but only placed it on User:Babydoll9799.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 20:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Since i am not a sockpuppet of whoever, you will be disappointed. I more or less feel this is an opportunist move by you to get me in to trouble and it is very disappointing, you appear to be of high experience you should not go around accusing people like that. I have spoken to you at length to discuss what it is you have an issue with and you have refused. Babydoll9799 (talk) 20:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I am withdrawing the reuest is it appears I was slightly off you a Sockpuppet of User:Dmcm2008 who was only blocked temporarily.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 20:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * What did you hope to gain? I wonder who blocked me then?? Like i said, i have learnt, you on the other hand... Babydoll9799 (talk) 21:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You haven't learnt otherwise I would not have spotted your almost identical OR edits to Liverpool City Council even you language in your last response suggest you have not learnt.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 21:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No it's a case that you are seeking to create trouble. What (to which you refer) is exactly the problem with editing on Liverpool City Council (I assume you refer that there is an opinion that South Sefton and Knowsley should be part of Liverpool - many do feel the boundaries are outdated hence my issues in the past. Is this so offensive to you? Oh, what do you want me to say, nothing?

You have backed me in to a corner today based on your assumptions that my edits are bad. You have nothing good to say do you? Atleast you made one suggestion (Liverpool City Council) that you disagree with, but you did not discuss my edits today and that sir is very poor. Babydoll9799 (talk) 21:09, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That makes it even clearer you do not understand the rules against WP:OR and that was what caused a lot of problems. You weren't backed into a corner, you had a chance to defend your self, you just react in the OTT way.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 21:15, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It's fair enough i don't understand all the rules im not afraid to admit it, and i make mistakes,

but i'd rather be like that than be you, if i saw mistakes in other people i would help them if i saw mistakes in articles i would correct them. If i did something wrong i would expect someone would tell me what, but you did not. You just assumed. It's just bad manners. Babydoll9799 (talk) 21:24, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you'll find that you Behaviour reeks of bad manners, that was what got you blocked in the first place. Knowing you don't know what you doing but carrying on doing is bad manners. I believe your rather young and need to grow up quite a lot.--Kitchen Knife 13:47, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
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Pier Head
You deleted a bit from the Pier Head article where it said the term 'The Three Graces' dated from 2001/2002, with the edit summary "Three Graces has been a long standing term, not from 2001/2". Do you have a source that uses the term and predates 2002? I have re-instated the date, with a reference to the earliest use of the term I can find; if you have something earlier, please bring it to the discussion. Regards, Swanny18 (talk) 19:42, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

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Enough of your nonsense!
Please stop changing Everton's motto. As you can see by reading the official website explanation of the crest it was correct before you changed it. Satis in Latin means enough. Try to have a little read around next time before adding your guesswork to Wikipedia. May I suggest this? Thank you so much. Spc 21 (talk) 15:47, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

User: 81.111.255.155
Not all their edits have been disruptive, and largely they're not particularly an issue. Differences in opinion between yourself and them isn't really something to warn over. For instance the James Buger stuff - shouldn't really be in the history section so I agree with its removal. However I also believe it is cited and notable, and so should be in a separate section perhaps dealing with "depiction in the media" under the populace section for instance. Koncorde (talk) 17:45, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree with Koncorde - many of the IP's edits are perfectly OK, and some are not. That probably applies to many of us.  Re the Bulger case - so far as I can see the cited sources don't refer to Kirkby, so it shouldn't be placed in that article.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:31, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Consensus of opinion is that I should let the other user do what he/she wants. I am all for fairness but as far as I can see too many edits are just changing what has existed for a long time. Reminds me of me when I started on WP but never the less I disagree with many of the editsBabydoll9799 (talk) 19:21, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Changing long establish information is not a problem, sometimes mistakes are made by motivated editors and not picked up on for many years by anyone else. It's why I now have most of Merseyside and Cheshire on my watchlist so that I can pick up on when stuff is amended by people like 81.111.255.155 and see the pattern of behaviour. Largely they're trying to improve articles, just not always in ways that do actually improve them. The solution is to fix the problem, or look at what the change was and see if actually there is a rationale behind the change that makes some sense. Koncorde (talk) 05:53, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Hamilton Square
This is kind of one of those situations where both are official. National Rail. Simply south...... fighting ovens for just 7 years 22:20, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I wasn't sure if was actually via a ticket. Ok just querying it. Babydoll9799 (talk) 22:22, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

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Birkenhead / Beechwood / Noctorum / Woodchurch
It would appear you have taken exception to my edits on the above locations.

I believe that the pages are supposed to provide as information, which is what I intended to do. A lot of the information I provided was historical and very accurate having personally grown up in th earea and is based on 1st hand knowledge.

Also I feel that the information regarding the facilities is also relevant for anybody researching the area.

Can I please ask that you review the edits and consider at least allowing some of them for the above reasons, rather than simply dismissing edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.167.178.194 (talk) 10:19, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

July 2015
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give Ford (Sefton) railway station a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Ford (Merseyside) railway station. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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 * Hi. Thank you for your message. I'm not being funny, but what was the need to reverse my edit? I accept it was cut and past i did not know about "move" of a page. The article should be moved to Ford, Merseyside rather than "Sefton" as that is a borough and not a place. It is pretty uniform for most of the pages except a few which i have correct - this specifically had Sefton on the page name which didn't even exist when the station was a station. Strictly speaking it should be Ford Lancashire, but seemed appropriate to say Merseyside as this is now. I think you were wrong to reverse the edit maybe i didn't do it correctly but even so. I am not a new user either i just didn't know the "move" page.Babydoll9799 (talk) 20:09, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It was necessary for me to carry out so that I could then move the page including [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ford_(Merseyside)_railway_station&action=history its history] (which you had left behind at the old name) and also the associated talk page (which you had also left behind). If I had not reverted first, I would have moved the redirect, which is never a good idea. -- Red rose64 (talk) 20:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I see you did actually move it correctly so thank you for thatBabydoll9799 (talk) 20:15, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

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RopeWalks, Liverpool
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The article starts "Ropewalks is a name given to an area of Liverpool city centre..." If that is not correct, it would be helpful if you could correct the article.

Thanks--Mhockey (talk) 20:20, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

It's a term given to a group of streets a few years ago and therefore gets prominence, but it is just Liverpool city centre. If you like an area within the city centre. Babydoll9799 (talk) 19:43, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

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 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
 * I have responded on your talk page.Babydoll9799 (talk) 19:07, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

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Ibou Touray
If he was from Toxteth then the category would be valid - however the source used to cite it doesn't actually say that, and I cannot find anything else. GiantSnowman 11:30, 29 October 2021 (UTC)


 * No, you are incorrect. Toxteth is an inner city area of Liverpool. Regardless of source, he can be born in Toxteth but the place of birth would still be Liverpool. Babydoll9799 (talk) 23:20, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

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Please do not remove categories - a player can be in both and, they are not mutually exclusive. GiantSnowman 09:00, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Like I said - they can be both a profession from a large city, and a 'person' from a specific area of the city. Both categories are valid. Your removal is without consensus or any basis in policy and is disruptive. GiantSnowman 12:09, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Again - the category is valid. Please stop removing it. Look at it this way - if everybody was classified only by (footballer, actor etc.), there would be nobody in the  category, and the category would be empty and pointless. But, it's not, which shows that it is a valid category. GiantSnowman 12:44, 30 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Please note I am not questioning the point you're making. The point I am making is "People from West Derby" should be removed and it is "People from Liverpool".
 * Hence why I am adding Liverpool. Also the page People from West Derby see "People from Liverpool".
 * The reason I am citing "Sportspeople from Liverpool" is it narrows down people from Liverpool to that category. We don't need to be too specific like people from West Derby. The city is Liverpool.
 * As already stated there is a section on the page of most areas to say "People from here".
 * Please understand my point I am not coming from the argument that you are making. Babydoll9799 (talk) 12:52, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No, you are just plain wrong - the issue is we do get as specific as, hence why those categories exist! GiantSnowman 13:42, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

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