User talk:Bastun/Jul - Dec 2009

Ireland category
I have not moved the category, as you will see that the original still exists and pertains to the whole of Ireland and the new pertains specifically to the Republic. If you examine most Ireland categories, they are divided into Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland. Tim! (talk) 17:07, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Arbcom?
I saw your post on the Ireland Collaboration page. In particular, "Arbcom have specifically stated that Domer's prevarications can be ignored". I presume Arbcom are the top dogs here on wikipedia? I hate to be nosey, but I'm wondering why they would say that. Some kind of bust up? Coll Mac (talk) 11:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Arbcom are the Arbitration Committee - a democratically elected body who do pretty much have the final say on disputes (though content disputes are normally outside their remit). Generally stuff that's beyond normal administrator level gets referred to them - such as the whole Ireland naming dispute issue.  A request for clarfication was brought there last month (?) after, if I recall correctly, Domer created two subpages off the main project page for proposals of his, and insisted on removing comments, questions, etc., that didn't meet his criteria for inclusion on those pages, despite not being a moderator for the Ireland collaboration project.  Arbcom's reaction pretty much was "Meh, ignore him."  As I said on the IECOLL page, though, I can't find the link :-(  Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 13:06, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. I have though asked the same of Domer48, as I thought I was being a little ignorant not going directly to him first. I have asked on the collaboration page if editors would agree to push on with the Ballot. Coll Mac (talk) 13:12, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Bastun I see you have no problem letting facts get in the way of a good story, since the report had nothing to do with articles and was dropped. Here is a list of ArbCom Members and they said nothing about me on the report that was thrown out by Admin's. -- Domer48 'fenian'  19:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, that'd explain why I couldn't find it on the Arbcom pages. Yes, sorry, it was just admins who said you should be ignored, not Arbcom. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 22:16, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

"Start time"
Per your suggestion, I've pushed out the "start time" until Monday. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid (coṁrá) 23:17, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

A reponse
Would be good if you're going to revert and say there are errors. Once you have stated what you think the errors are specifically, then we can move to the next point of seeing what references say and whether you're right or not. Thanks. - Yorkshirian (talk) 13:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Back
Thanks, Bastun. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid (coṁrá) 18:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Vote
Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm sure that's what I did. I'll try again. Cheers The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 15:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Bastun, are you up-to-no-good offline? Sarah777 (talk) 23:57, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * What? Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 23:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)


 * A simple question: are you canvassing votes from other editors via e-mail? And is that allowed? If so, I wish to engage in same. Sarah777 (talk) 00:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * WTF? Exactly what evidence do you have for that accusation? Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 00:17, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * To be clear - you've just accused me of canvassing, which is explicitly banned from the poll. So either provide some evidence or withdraw the accusation and apologise. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 00:24, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I accused you of nothing. I asked a question. I need to know because there are many Irish edirors who normally partake in these polls who seem to be unaware of them. If you were emailing people then so could I, surely? Sarah777 (talk) 00:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sarah, it was an odd way of asking in fairness, although I don't believe you meant anything untoward by it. Anyway, policy says Because it is less transparent than on-wiki notifications, the use of email or other off-wiki communication to notify editors is discouraged unless there is a significant reason for not using talk page notifications. Depending on the specific circumstances, sending a notification to a group of editors by email may be looked at more negatively than sending the same message to the same group of people on their talk pages, but that conveniently is never employed regarding the abundant usage of emails and live chat among many admins over community goings on....  But I imagine what with the bank holiday weekend, and it being the middle of holiday period, lots of people will be coming along to this later.  I wouldn't worry if people who normally participate haven't been seen yet.  Just my 2c.  --HighKing (talk) 01:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)


 * To be abundantly clear to Sarah, no, I have not emailed anyone regarding this poll, and I will not. Why?  Because it's not allowed.  Simple as. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 09:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I feel ill!--Vintagekits (talk) 21:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Too much celebrating after your FA? Congrats on that, by the way. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 23:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Bastun. No need to shout. I asked you a question. You replied. I accept your word 100%. Thank you for clarifying the matter. Sarah777 (talk) 13:47, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sarah. CAPSLOCK IS SHOUTING. Bold is emphasis.  Strikethrough in advance is gaming. Apologies are invisble. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Flag, yes; Name, no
I note that while you deny the Irish sovereign state it's name on the Wiki article you seek to have the tricolour which long predates the state exclusively used to represent the State only. Sarah777 (talk) 00:22, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Show me a reference that states who else has officially adopted it. And Ireland was not a combatant at Warrenpoint. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 00:26, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I am aware that at the time of Warrenpoint the IRA considered their "Army Council" the only legitimate Government of Ireland! In the light of that the onus must be on you to show that they have some other Irish Flag they are keeping under wraps. The fact that the state adopted a pre-existing Republican/Nationalist flag does not give it a monopoly of use. Sarah777 (talk) 00:30, 20 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Let's keep discussion in one place? Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 00:36, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

F wins. Saying it doesn't is - well, like some of the claims being made by Declan Ganley and UKIP about Lisbon II.
That is something you have written on the ICOLL talk page. You know, Lisbon didn't win and Declan Ganley and probably UKIP says that result has some value. What are you on about? Lisbon treaty. No wins. Saying it doesn't is like - well, like some of the things... ~ R.T.G 16:51, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't actually understand the above. Is English your first language? (Genuine question, not being smart).  My reference to Ganley and UKIP was to some of the claims they were/are making about what happens if Lisbon gets through.  They, and Cóir especially, were saying some pretty bizarre "black = white" things. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 08:26, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Are they even worse than some of the claims been made about what happens if Lisbon doesn't get through? Hardly possible. In today's Indo we read that voting "no" will cause Dublin to flood and the climate to get wetter and windier with bridges being swept away in landslides. Match that. And in your case not only is English your first language but England your first love, by the sound of it. Sarah777 (talk) 15:48, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * What, like in Malahide? And yes, English is my first language, but I've no particular love of the place. Give me the Netherlands, France, Germany, Spain or Italy any day. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 23:48, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Mind you, only last year the climate models were predicting Dublin would get warmer and dryer in Summer - but that won't exactly frighten the "no" voters, will it? Sarah777 (talk) 15:55, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Not as much as lies like a €1.84 minimum wage from Cóir and the shite sported by the English arms dealer Declan Ganley, no. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 23:48, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually I'm a "really having difficulty making up my mind on this" voter. Ever time I hear one of the advocates I am persuaded to vote the other way. (You'll appreciate I'm not a Cóir fan). Sarah777 (talk) 23:28, 1 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Heh, indeed. I was very much undecided first time round, and went so far as to count up the advocates I didn't like/totally disagreed with on each side before narrowly deciding.  Declan Ganley and Michael O'Leary neatly cancel each other out, and I was never a fan of Cóir or Corr fruitcakes.  Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 09:13, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Recording centralised knowledge on the Ireland naming disputes
Gee, thanks for all your help. Your help has made you the most prolific helper so far. Perhaps there is nothing to be gained from such a record? Regardless, if you want to discuss or even ploace an opinion such as "Eh?", there is a talk page Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ireland Collaboration/Ireland Naming Dispute Evidence. I mean, what all should go the page? ~ R.T.G 11:36, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Article - Irish Postcodes
A little bit of advice Bastun - you referred to me by user name and first name in your recent edit on the above mentioned - remove refernce to my username and first name immediately! I have not contributed to your silly unresearched essays on this incorrectepedia for a long time and unless you want to be in court I suggest you stop jumping to conclusions which are well wide of the mark. This is the only warning you will get - be careful!!!!! Garydubh (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:55, 22 October 2009 (UTC).

Bastun - You removed an entry in the above article on the basis that it was written by User:Garydubh - it was not - you are completely incorrect - please talk to the user who made the entry directly and avoid unfounded and unverified allegations in the future - doubt if you made any effort to check this out - just jumped to an assumption.

Furthermore allegations that that user had COI entries in this aricle are also incorrect - the user has made no contribution to discussion on this article since Jan 2009 and has had not entry in the article since April 2008 - you used this as a justification for blocking the user - again completley incorrect and unfounded. The user in question has no further interest in your article.

You made reference to a personal name in association with the accused user - the personal name is not a user name - do not use it here again.

You made reference to a company name in a derogatory manner implying that there was some issue with the work of the company - do not do so again.

Finally, if your article is about the official postcode system of Ireland - then the article should be removed as there is no official postcode system in Ireland yet and the provision of such is subject to an open tender comeptition which your discussion may prejudice and undermine and open youreslf and wikipedia to legal action.

Please do not mention relevant user name, personal name, company name or product name on this article or related discussion without the permission of the relevant owners.


 * Another employee of the company, then?
 * I didn't block anyone.
 * "You made reference to a personal name in association with the accused user - the personal name is not a user name" - eh, no, I didn't. Anywhere.
 * There was nothing derogatory in what I said about Garydubh's company. Unless "This system isn't official and has nothing to do with the official post code system being introduced." is somehow derogatory?
 * It's not "my" article. WP:OWN applies to every article.
 * The article is not about the official postcode system of Ireland, it's about the Irish postal system.
 * Legal threats get you blocked.
 * I will certainly mention User:Garydubh, GPS Ireland Consultants Ltd., and/or their GPS/GIS system in any relevant discussions. Last time I checked, WP's servers were still in the United States, which has a constitution that protects free speech.  Even if they were in Ireland, I'd be entitled to do the same.  I certainly won't mention any personal names, because I'm not aware of any.  Apart from the 'Gary' bit of Garydubh's username, which is kind of obvious. <span style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif">Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 23:42, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, it astonishes me that you even bothered responding to that nonsense Bastun. Jack forbes (talk) 23:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Bolev blocked as a transparent sock of Garydubh.  Sandstein   19:15, 25 October 2009 (UTC)