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Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. Rentier (talk) 10:07, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Please disclose all contributions you made in exchange for a payment as soon as possible. Rentier (talk) 10:07, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the notification. My paid contributions have been disclosed. One of the articles has been deleted before I was able to dislose my affiliation. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 19:50, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Marisa Peer


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Proposed deletion of Reach (brand)


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 * John Nagle thank you for the notification. Reach (brand) is not a paid entry. It is a legendary American brand with a history. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 19:52, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

AfC notification: User:Bbarmadillo/sandbox has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:Bbarmadillo/sandbox. Thanks! Sulfurboy (talk) 21:00, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Please stop spamming
Please stop asking every reviewer to review your draft. If it has been submitted, it will be reviewed in due time. Thank you. Primefac (talk) 17:55, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the warning. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 17:56, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Joe Ikhinmwin has been accepted
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Cold Water Cowboys has been accepted
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Cold Water
It's looking good nothing missing that I can see it formatted as it should be JMichael22 (talk) 02:55, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:18, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

User:Bbarmadillo/Paolo Costagli
Hi Peter, looks like you saved this on your user page by mistake. --JAMillerKC (talk) 17:52, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * you mean it should be turned into draft? -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 18:36, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd say it's fine where it is, but when you're ready to submit just place {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page. Primefac (talk) 01:46, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok, ty. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 18:17, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the confusion, what I meant was the page name is now User:Bbarmadillo/Paolo Costagli and should just be Paolo Costagli.--JAMillerKC (talk) 22:26, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
 * it is a draft now, not yet submitted for the AfC. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 03:57, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Got it, my apologies.--JAMillerKC (talk) 15:17, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Paolo Costagli has been accepted
 Paolo Costagli, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. . Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 04:12, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
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 * Thank you very much for approving the article. I plan to work a bit more on this article (wording and shortening). -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:28, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Babak Hodjat has been accepted
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 * If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Babak_Hodjat help desk] .
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 * Thank you for reviewing Babak Hodjat article. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 04:19, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Reid Collins & Tsai has been accepted
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 * thank you very much for reviewing this article. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 14:28, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. ! dave  14:29, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Marisa Peer has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Marisa Peer. Thanks! Dial911 (talk) 04:26, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for taking a look at the article. I am sorry, but I don't understand your comment. There is a COI tag at the article's talk page that gives all the information about this task that I have. I wrote this article from scratch and published to Wikipedia. I have no information about other editors who worked on the article or the nature of their edits. This article was deleted because the COI has not been stated (my bad). I asked the editor to recover the article to my userspace and reworked it, adding more information. Hope it helps. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 09:05, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Marisa Peer has been accepted
 Marisa Peer, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. . Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Dial911 (talk) 10:32, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Marisa_Peer help desk] .
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Reply
Thanks for your message on my talk page - I'll have a look at the article shortly. Just one thing, your user page declares your conflicts of interest but not paid editing, which needs to be done more formally. The simplest way is to use the Template:Paid and it would be helpful if you could have two separate lists of those articles you just have a COI with, and those you have been paid (broadly construed) to edit. Thanks, Melcous (talk) 00:09, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I have done a quick review of the article, there were plenty of words and phrases that were not neutral as well as overlinking and unnecessary headings. But the biggest problem I see is that the "history" section was purely (and is still almost completely) a list of 'most popular' pieces or achievements. This is the kind of list a website or publication would write about themselves. A history should include facts about when and where it started, who is involved, and perhaps a brief overview of key achievements (as well as any key criticisms or problems), but at this stage, that section is not at all neutral and encyclopedic. Overall, the article needs more third-party sources, that is, what do other published, independent sources say about it (not about one article, but about the site as a whole) - if these can't be found, then perhaps the notability tag which you removed (side note - as a paid and COI editor you should let someone else do this, not you) should be reinstated. Finally, as a paid editor, you are kindly asked to suggest changes on the article's talk page (using the Template:Request edit) rather than editing the article directly. Cheers, Melcous (talk) 00:40, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your edits and comments. Will take them into consideration and act accordingly. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 04:36, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
 * please check my userpage. I've tried to add two articles to template and it doesn't seem to work. :{ -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 18:08, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:The National Memo


A tag has been placed on Draft:The National Memo requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

"article already exists here The National Memo"

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The National Memo
Now that the other editor's objections have been assuaged, please feel free to reopen a new edit request containing your proposals for this article, at your earliest convenience. Regards,  Spintendo  ᔦᔭ   23:33, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
 * thank a lot for your edits. You are an awesome editor! -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 10:19, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Arctic Zero
Why should 'the guy who wanted to have this article on Wikipedia' particularly want to contact you? In view of the circumstances of the deletion, please start a new article from scratch. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:57, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 04:15, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Don Morrison (mountaineer) (January 24)
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Reply to your Articles for Creation Help Desk question
Hello, Bbarmadillo! I'm Jcc. I have replied to your question about a submission at the WikiProject Articles for Creation Help Desk. jcc (tea and biscuits) 20:48, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: DiCamillo Bakery has been accepted
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You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. . Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Bkissin (talk) 21:12, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
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 * thank you for reviewing DiCamillo's! -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 21:15, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: William T. Reid, IV has been accepted
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 * I should note, as a warning, that this was scraping the barrel for notability. One solid source discussing him, the rest more than passing mentions but nothing too solid, just about good enough. It should be alright. ! dave  10:44, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
 * thank you for reviewing the article. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 16:43, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

February 2018
Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to The National Memo. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. ''Stop asking volunteer editors for technical assistance in using Wikipedia tools that apparently you aren't using effectively. I don't know what the technical problem is, but it isn't up to real volunteer editors to help you change a few words in order to make the article a better advertisement for your blog, when Wikipedia is not for advertising.'' Robert McClenon (talk) 18:00, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help. I will WP:Assume good faith in your comment. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 19:56, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Discretionary Sanctions
Robert McClenon (talk) 20:59, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will WP:Assume good faith in this again. Working with improving categories I see quite many articles about the US politics. So should you be my main point of contact if I encounter an article with poor or no categories? -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 21:07, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * No. What don't you understand?  You don't seem to get it.  You ask if I should be your main point of contact if you encounter poor or no categories.  You again seem to be asking me to help you, who are being paid, to do your job of editing.  No.  If you continue to ask volunteer editors to do your work for you on behalf of your client or employer, it may be necessary to take unpleasant action.  Robert McClenon (talk) 04:10, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Robert, I am doing quite a lot of work fixing categories as part of Uncategorized Task Force. This is not paid job, it's Wikipedia mainteinance. So if I am prohibited from editing anything US-polotics related, but I see a page with no categoriez or poor categories does it still apply. Or purely technical edits (adding categoriees) is OK? Thanks. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 04:32, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
 * User:Bbarmadillo - First, you have not been prohibited from editing US politics. You have only been cautioned that editing tendentiously in that area may result in a topic ban.  Second, I do not plan to be the trainer or mentor or assistant for an editor who is sometimes a paid editor.  Third, I am not an expert on categories, and I know that they are complex.  If you want help with the technical aspects of assigning categories, you may ask for help at the Help Desk.  Robert McClenon (talk) 16:52, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Remember to notify
Please remember to notify editors when you mention them at the noticeboards. See the top of page at WP:COIN for the template you can use. ☆ Bri (talk) 23:13, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. My bad. I gave my comments. And looks like (I was right) the issue has been sorted out. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 04:15, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Response
Thank you for your message, I just wanted to respond and state that I don't have any COI editing the pages of Harvey and Eddie Newquist. I have edited both pages with their permission but don't personally know either of them. The reason the photographs are cited as belonging to Eddie Newquist but uploaded by me is because I asked him for them. (Wafflesandpancakes (talk) 00:55, 16 February 2018 (UTC))

Your submission at Articles for creation: Arctic Zero (February 24)
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 * thank you for reviewing the article. Your feedback is very clear. I will work on the article further. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 08:41, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Paolo Costagli
Hello Bbarmadillo,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Paolo Costagli for deletion, because it seems to be promotional, rather than an encyclopedia article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Hangon_preload&preloadtitle=This+page+should+not+be+speedy+deleted+because...+ contest this deletion], but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:30, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * please nominate for the normal deletion or remove the tag and suggest for the improvement. The article has passed AFC process and has been reviewed by an independent moderator. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 15:02, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I was reviewing the article as a new article (there is a bit of a backlog in reviewing them) and I started to remove all of the content from the "Philanthropy and sponsorship" section onwards as spam, but decided in the end that the whole article was too promotional, its even got 16 citations in the lead, so I think I will leave it to an administrator to decide. I can see you have put a lot of work into it. I suggest you keep a copy in your sandbox in case you want to recreate a less promotional article in future if it gets deleted. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 15:19, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I am ready to rework the article by removing the content that looks promotional (including the lead section). Please give me some time. - Bbarmadillo (talk) 15:24, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * please check the article again. I think I've removed most of the promotional content now. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 16:23, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The page is improved somewhat, and I will just leave it to the reviewing admin to decide what to do. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:25, 2 March 2018 (UTC)


 * There was a lot more that needed improvement, such as the name dropping and the list of dealers. I kept the key item, the work in the museum. I'm not sure about the importance of the awards. If you restore them, do so as concisely as possible, and don't put them in the infobox.  DGG ( talk ) 03:01, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * thank you for your contribution. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 05:57, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Follow up
Hey, just following up from Articles for deletion/William T. Reid IV - I figured this was a more appropriate place. I appreciate your apology and kind words, and yes, I wasn't meaning that you had asked for my edits and I have been happy to do some tidying up of your work. However, I do choose to keep an eye on edits that have potential conflicts of interest because I believe in the neutrality of this project, and I would say that it does feel like too many of your paid articles have the same issues with content that is verging on promotional, as well as not being properly sourced and some questionable notability issues. After the time you have been here, this should be improving and you should know that paid editing it always going to be more heavily scrutinised. In terms of my comment about time, for example, when I follow some of your comments at Talk:The National Memo, it can feel like you are expecting volunteers to spend a large amount of time justifying their edits to you, when you perhaps should be realising that as a paid editor, the onus is going to continue to be on you to very carefully demonstrate notability and neutrality in the first place. I hope that helps clarify. Cheers, Melcous (talk) 10:47, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * "more heavily scrutinized" is a nice word for "double standards" :) You are completely right and I am learning some lessons. Note that I don't always disagree with the edits made to my articles. Sorry again for getting personal at the WTR discussion. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 18:31, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Just wanted to add my two cents. UNLIKE some other American lawyer articles (yes, I am full aware of WP:OSE, no need to remind me about it) that were created from one-time, zero-history accounts and contain "exactly the sort of advertisement masquerading as something else" I agree with you here, you are treated much more harshly than most of the obviously paid WP:SPAs whose useless promotional articles pass the New Page Patrol easily, and whose assumed good faith would be defended to death by a large part of the community. I guess that's the price you pay for the doing the right thing. That's not to say William T. Reid IV should not be deleted, it should, but there are tens of thousands of articles by undeclared SPAs that could be deleted first.

I disagree that stopping the flood of undeclared edits with current measures is a total utopia. Any competent management could do it overnight, but Wikipedia doesn't have a management. The flood could be stopped if the community wanted to, but it doesn't. Even the disclosure requirement was essentially imposed from the top by the foundation. There are people who troll any discussion about paid editing because some guy was blocked for promotional editing more than a decade ago. It blows my mind.

The handful of activists who want to protect the neutrality and intellectual independence of the encyclopedia are prevented from doing anything truly effective. So they (or "we") resort to doing what they can do, which sometimes amounts to scrutinizing the handful of disclosed paid editors. Rentier (talk) 20:01, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * thanks. As you see, I am not giving up and not going "black hat", making my edits from this account and trying to defend them where I feel it is right. I actually agree with that paid edits should be clearly seen (much like media articles have "Advertising" tag). But I think there is a thin line here. I've noticed that many subjects are not on Wikipedia not because they are not notable, but because it is simply too hard for the people to make it right (knowing the rules, how to code and so on). I also think that there is no such thing as an un-biased article (possibly, some Ancient Greek history articles and even there one would see multiple sides trying to impose their point of view). Also, over time many things that started as "paid" or "advertising" become history (as an example "Marlboro Man" article created in 1954 would be a "promotional", "no depth coverage" and "passing mention", now it is history and deserves an article). This is why the community should probably not try to stop the flood. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:36, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

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KJP1 (talk) 20:39, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Draft:Arctic Zero
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 * thank you for such a clear demonstration of WP:GF. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 18:10, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Message
Hi Bbarmadillo, you sent me a message, an email. scope_creep (talk) 02:22, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

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