User talk:Beatgr

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Wikipedia Notes
After 3 or 4 WikiBots that seem to have a mind of their own -- of both writing "new versions of history" and censorship of ideas of the "bots" creator -- User:Carnildo being the most noticable. Now an administrator and is now against censorship (what a change in attitude). This web article by Larry Sanger, one of the Wikipedia co-founders, Wikipedia credibility & management problems-- summarizes the current problems very well. Some respectable institutions have informed students -- they now discourage Wikipedia for source material.

I am reducing my volunteer contributions and time to Wikipedia. My limited time can be better spent with more rewarding projects and initatives. Too bad, seems like a nice idea - but Wikipedia is attracting too many "Spin Control" editors - and will not receive my financial support. Beatgr 16:12, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Sadly, some the best people (and contributors) -- Draeco being one -- have also left, taken a long break or reduced their contributions. Beatgr 02:28, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

School officials unite in banning Wikipedia
Comments that an "open - anyone can edit philosophy" is both bias and flawed in structure.

Illinois State Routes WikiProject created!
Hello! I just wanted to let you know that I've created WikiProject Illinois State Routes so that all Illinois state route articles can be standardized. Let me know what you think on its talk page. Thanks! &mdash; Rob (  talk  ) 18:25, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

5 Year Break Ends
Beginning in October 2006, I took a break from Wikipedia due to its chaos (Elonka Dunin, demoted to semi-active admin) and lack of control for robotic editing and nameless, unqualified editors. Wikipedia editor Oden was one editor that built a "bot" that posted notices about images uploaded over 12 months ago for various articles that I originally wrote. It was a poorly written program that did make mistakes, and destroyed thousands of entries. Since I was on extended "break" at that time due to work and holidays, I did not see these messages. He has "left Wikipedia' permanently as an editor (I don't know why, don't care). I can find few articles that he actually researched and wrote. Beatgr Updated 24 February 2012

Live each day - you may not be around tomorrow. Beatgr 23:10, 25 July 2007 (UTC) My break is over and I will return on a periodic basis. Beatgr 03:05, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Nice work on the Space Launch System page
The article desperately needed the information you added, so as a rocketry enthusiast and habitual editor of the page, thank you. Boundarylayer (talk) 03:19, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism
I have noted an increase in Vandalism to Wikipedia entries. In one instance, due to repeated issues from the same individual, I submitted the incident information to his ISP and enforcement authorities.

WikiProject Spaceflight newsletter notification
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Deletion discussion about SpaceX Crew-3
Hello, Beatgr, and welcome to Wikipedia. I edit here too, under the username Alexandermcnabb, and I thank you for your contributions.

I wanted to let you know, however, that I've started a discussion about whether an article that you created, SpaceX Crew-3, should be deleted, as I am not sure that it is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia in its current form. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/SpaceX Crew-3.

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== Alrxandermcnabb Request for Deletion, was voted down by the Community. beatgr 00:53 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your work in Project Spaceflight
(I found you in my enhancement work on OSCAR 4) --Neopeius (talk) 05:57, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

The Downlink Volume 2 Issue 2
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The Downlink Volume 2 Issue 3
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The Downlink – February 2021
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The Downlink – March 2021
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The Downlink – April 2021
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The Downlink – May 2021
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The Downlink – June 2021
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:37, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

June 2021
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violating copyright policy by copying text or images into Wikipedia from another source without evidence of permission. Please take this opportunity to ensure that you understand our copyright policy and our policies regarding how to use non-free content. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. MER-C 09:35, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Copyright violations found on Shooting Star (spacecraft) and Crew Dragon Endeavour. You have received multiple copyright warnings in the past, one of which you dismissed as robotic vandalism (it was not). I will oppose any unblock appeal you make. MER-C 09:39, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * I came here to review this block. However, this block seems too complex for me to handle personally. I suggest that you request a review at WP:AN, it may get the attention it deserves there. HighInBC Need help? Just ask. 00:53, 14 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Firstly, to Beatgr, all regular reviews are carried by admins with no prior involvement in the case. Mer-C is stating they will contest that admin unblocking you. That in effect rules out discretionary unblocks if the reviewing admin felt it was warranted, but just means that the appeal would be heard by the broader Community at WP:AN - blocking admins don't have any veto, as your appeal seems to believe It actually states that an appeal process will not occur..
 * Secondly,, an individual with appreciable non-copyvio history (in this case, 4 years and around 1500 edits) would not normally be direct blocked in this case, especially given that one of the pages you flag you marked as a case needing review rather than, say, direct G12ing it (although that latter aspect is somewhat a wash as I'm inclined to agree).
 * Thirdly, back to Beatgr, your appeal doesn't seem to note the level of recklessness present - comparatively few copyvio breaches are wilful, it's not a necessary component on copyvio blocks to protect the encyclopedia. You state you were wiki-gnoming Crew Dragon Endeavour except that this 450-word set of edits (admin review only) is a major substantive edit - in no way gnoming. The time since previous warning suggests AN review would be reasonable, but your lack of consideration of recklessness and mischaracterisation of areas of work and issues makes me disinclined to send it that way.
 * Given these clashing aspects, please both feel free to provide some additional thought - and I'll decide whether to either decline the appeal or escalate to WP:AN for fuller review. Nosebagbear (talk) 15:11, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This appeal is without merit. "I do not remember “lifting text” from referenced sources, since I do not write in that manner." Yes, you do. This isn't something I'd expect to see from an editor with 8000 edits and 15 years tenure, especially the bit with the registered trademark symbol. The copyvio is obvious - I only posted it to Copyright problems to give someone the chance to rewrite it (if not, I will delete it). Copyvio is a habit, often resulting from insufficient proficiency in written English, communication and/or clue. The warnings prove this habit stretches over seven years. I expect the contributor copyright investigation to turn up more.
 * I had pasted the wrong diffs in the comment after the block template. The duplicate diffs should be . MER-C 16:29, 14 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Nosebagbear A willful disregard of copy-write was never intended and if mistakes were recently made in the two articles noted (reckless?), corrections could have been made. Based on additional thoughts requested by Nosebagbear (below) and HighInBC comment, I would ask for the next step of [WP:AN]] review.

The suggestion that I have Copyvio habit that stretches over seven years and a reckless editor is an unfounded accusation. This appears to be the foundation of MER-C block action and possibly a personal objection to this writer (unknown reason).

As a Wikipedia administrator, MER-C could have addressed the issues by: “Greg, I find this section of article inappropriate due to copyvio, please correct”. OR “I have deleted this section of article, due to my determination of copyvio. Please review.” I do not visit Wikipedia on a regular basis, nor am I a ‘Wiki writer for hire’, so posted notifications (talk page) are not immediately seen by me.

MER-C has stated … insufficient proficiency in written English, communication and/or clue. Recently retired, I wrote 60-100 pages (weekly) of professional technical analysis with supporting data/charts for seven years delivered to Global 1000 clients. In addition, I served as deliverable review for final reports (to clients) submitted by the firm’s other consultants for accuracy, grammar and clarity. This is a projected characterization, that is not an accurate assessment of this writer.

I looked at the two paragraphs of the Shooting Star, where a near 100% match to the citation/reference was noted, two paragraphs are “quoted text” are from original source (reported by the citation). Is that not allowed? not sufficient? Changing quoted text, from an original source, is a writing/article violation — as I was taught many years ago. I believe that it is also a violation of Wikipedia rules. Today, the overall article is too long, and could be edited for brevity with some loss of details and facts.

Yes, as noted by Nosebagbear, the Crew Dragon Endeavour was a larger addition (and corrections) than my normal “clean-up, janitorial” activities over the past few months. Changes were made to the article after NASA’s pre-launch news conference, where many ‘first time’ revelations were made by SpaceX officials regarding refurbishment of this spacecraft. In effect, invalidating paragraphs of the article.

Did I rush to make changes and additions to this article, based on those revelations? Possibly rushed. In hindsight, a citation to the actual NASA video with quotation from the SpaceX official, would have been “more appropriate” based on the stated copyvio objection. As stated by Wikipedia guidelines, that I have read, video or Twitter “tweet” citations are not encouraged.

This is the first copyvio warning, that I remember, in years. So a systematic copyvio violator, I am not. As I stated earlier, the Merodosia bridge article was removed, by mutual agreement in 2007.

Those specific details, from 10 years ago, are: I was incorporating additions to earlier work (research, writing with Richard Carlson, retired IL police sergeant and 9-1-1 commander) for the Illinois section of WikiProject U.S. Roads. It was a very large Wiki project (months, years) requiring coordination and assignments of many writers. In 2007, I desired to capture information of an old Illinois road bridge, but insufficient independent Internet sources existed in 2007 (mutual decision was made to delete). A new bridge opened at the site in June 2018. I have not revisited the subject, since the old bridge has since been demolished. I do not remember who the copyvio administrator was, at that time, but it was a positive exchange without hate. Beatgr 22:55 14 June 2021 (UTC) Beatgr (talk)

The Downlink – July 2021
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Explorer 52


A tag has been placed on Explorer 52 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://web.archive.org/web/20050118105032/http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/explorer_ie-d.htm. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.  Heart  (talk) 06:49, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

The Downlink – August 2021
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:07, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Shooting Star (spacecraft)
Hello, Beatgr. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Shooting Star (spacecraft), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion under CSD G13. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it. You may request userfication of the content if it meets requirements.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 20:02, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Shooting Star (spacecraft)


Hello, Beatgr. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Shooting Star".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 19:25, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

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